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Using references on talk pages

Hi - I made a slight addition to your comment at Talk:Chinese Communist Party#CCP vs. CPC for formatting purposes. One of your comments contained two citations. If you add the {{reflist talk}} template with your comment it will lock those references to that point, instead of appearing at the bottom of the page amongst other comments as the discussion continues. You can see what I did with this edit. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 01:16, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn thanks very much, I have often edited in visual and haven't learned these nuances. Also, I thought your contribution to that discussion was instructive. What a valuable contribution to the topic. JArthur1984 (talk) 01:50, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date. You have shown interest in the Uyghur genocide. Due to past disruption in this topic area, the community has authorised uninvolved administrators to impose discretionary sanctions—such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks—on editors who do not strictly follow Misplaced Pages's policies, expected standards of behaviour, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic. For additional information, please see the guidance on these sanctions. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

— Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 18:05, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

What's up with all the repeat edits to this post? JArthur1984 (talk) 18:09, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

I had been using the incorrect template. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 19:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

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14 August 2022

Hello JArthur1984! Your additions to Environmental policy in China have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Misplaced Pages:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Misplaced Pages, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.  Spintendo  03:27, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Can you tell me more about what happened here?

My edits were merging information from another Wiki article (Environmental Governance) that should be merged, and has a request for deletion.

So is this warning a mistake, or does that mean it was actually a copyright violation in the Environmental Governance of China article?

What tool checks for potential copyright violations? Unless there’s been a mistake here, someone needs to run it on Environmental Governance in China JArthur1984 (talk) 03:55, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply! My reply posted here on my talk page.  Spintendo  04:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Kawsachun News

Kawsachun News officially has editorial stance supportive of the Movement Toward Socialism ruling party, as stated in its main article, and its independence has been questioned previously, including when Evo Morales used the radio to call for the formation of armed militias (). Being that the disputed information that quotes the outlet is directly related to the government, it is not an independent source to be used. NoonIcarus (talk) 20:38, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

This is not a Misplaced Pages requirement. As the Reliable Sources policy explains, "Reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective." These sources are not deprecated or questioned and are appropriate for the proposition cited. If you specifically believe the information is wrong, by all means let's address. But the sources are appropriate. JArthur1984 (talk) 20:55, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Nonetheless, I added a third source. JArthur1984 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

China–Syria relations

Hi, I see you've added a reference (Murphy, Dawn C. (2022). China's rise in the Global South : the Middle East, Africa, and Beijing's alternative world order) to China–Syria relations. Does the book also cover the China–Lebanon relations? If so, can I ask you to add the information to the article? Thanks, Nehme₁₄₉₉ 11:12, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes - it would be my pleasure. I’ll review the source and add what I can. I highly recommend Prof. Murphy. JArthur1984 (talk) 13:04, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

I've now added the significant references from Prof. Murphy's text. I hope you find them useful as well. JArthur1984 (talk) 18:27, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts, much appreciated! Nehme₁₄₉₉ 18:40, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Arturo Goetz

i think you are wrong on Arturo Goetz Booriazira (talk) 00:17, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

On that page, my only edit was to wikilink the term South-South Cooperation. So I think you are looking for another editor. JArthur1984 (talk) 00:45, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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Bengal Genocide Question

I reverted your changes to this article. There is a discussion on this at Talk:Bengal famine of 1943. GreenCows (talk) 23:51, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

I don't think I understand the broader dispute. Regardless of which article remains after the deletion discussions you reference, there are reliable sources for Churchill's description of Indians as a "beastly people with a beastly religion" and so forth, and they can be incorporated into the surviving article as otherwise appropriate. JArthur1984 (talk) 00:06, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Personal attacks at Talk:Chinese Communist Party

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Personal attacks at Talk:Chinese Communist Party. Thank you. Nutez (talk) 19:56, 29 January 2023 (UTC)