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Thank you! I should put more stuff in my to-do list, I've been having nice surprises :) Fvasconcellos 21:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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Cheers

Cheers for sorting out my TOC, had to look close to see what you'd done, but its better now - not going to revert you :) Would have done it mayself if I had a clue about writing stuff like that - guess it is your profession! Thanks again RyanPostlethwaite 16:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Flag of Northern Ireland debate

You have been involved in the flag debate on the Northern Ireland talk page. If you remember there were four option listed about the way forward. If you wish you can go here and make your position clear. regards--Vintagekits 22:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Rodney J. Woods

Thanks for creating this. Cheers, :) MikeReichold 00:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Steve Stanton

Thanks for your improvements to the Steve Stanton page. Great reorganization! -- Yksin 00:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Update. I'm not sure the nondiscrimination policies currently cited in the Reaction section of the article would prohibit the City discriminating against Stanton. See Talk:Steve Stanton for details of my reasoning. -- Yksin 01:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Yep. Agreed (somewhat). I replied on the talk page. Thanks, BTW :) - Alison 01:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar!  :) --Yksin 20:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome :) You most certainly earned it! - Alison 20:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

RfA Nomination

Greetings Alison, welcome to Misplaced Pages. If you would like to nominate yourself as an admin or nominate someone else, please visit this page. Thanks!  Meteoroid »  01:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Okaayy. You want to go for admin, yes? - Alison 01:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

SM

Tuatha Dé Danann, the first on the list, is not part of S Myth. It wasn't 100 years ago or 200 years ago either. Well, if the edges are going to be blurred, and the waters muddied, what does that make of Misplaced Pages. At best a second rate encyclopedia. Or we can aim to higher ideals and make a first rate encyclopedia. It's up to the editors. Manopingo 19:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

They you (all) need to come to consensus to re-order the list. Deleting the Scottish mythology entry without doing so is just going to cause trouble. And bringing the fight to WP:IWNB without giving any rationale isn't going to help your cause. The Tuatha Dé Danann page explicitly states in its first paragraph that it's an Irish Goidelic myth and not a Scottish one, so there's no confusion in the mind of the reader. - Alison 19:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
To be frank, I'm not too concerned, and believe me, I have no cause, but I did try to put it right, so I'm happy with that. How does anyone know the mind of the reader. All I can say is this, I have written some technical stuff in the past, about 9 years ago, and you would be surprised how just one comma in the wrong place could totally confound a reader. Manopingo 19:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Glad you're happy, so! - Alison 19:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I see you are joining a frenzy against me. That's okay, I forgive you. Remember, I was called a vandal 'first, by your friend editor. Many editors go to the wire with the 3rr, over something the believe is in error. Well if hostility is the new consensus, then it's a sad day for WP. Remember hostility is contagious, but I'll ignore it, these lines from the great bard might give you something to consider, The villainy you teach me I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. Please don't poison Misplaced Pages. Manopingo 12:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Dude, there is no "frenzy" against you. You're completely overrreacting here. However, I do note that you've decided to take {{celtic mythology}} to WP:WWNB now. These are not the actions of someone who is "not too concerned" and " no cause". You just called up an editor for a personal attack over using the word "pedantic" in a revert of one of your edits to Ireland. May I suggest you step back for a minute and consider your position on all this? I am not "poison wikipedia", nor am I "teach villainy", as you imply. - Alison 13:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Kathryn is not my "friend" - she is just another editor, is all. Try discussing the content of edits rather than the person. If you require an apology, I'm sure it will be forthcoming on WP:AN/I where you've brought your edit war. In the meantime, maybe try editing some content, as the the vast majority of your edits so far have been userpage commentary - Alison 13:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, you you have turned yourself inside out defending the indefensible, as per my last. I have always turned a blind eye to sark, but never more. Manopingo 13:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

At least people will know I made my stand. When folks examine WP files in 200 years time, they'll see that one man stood up for the true history. He's going to get barred, but that's the price of being true! Good night Ali, good night. Manopingo 23:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Sir, you need to step back for a minute and take a breather. Your edit commentary is getting more and more offensive. Honestly - just take it easy and edit some other stuff for a while and cool down before you get blocked - Alison 23:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Nice to see you watching, Irish one. Manopingo 23:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

You need watching. You're getting abusive with just about everyone who comes in contact with you, not to mention you doing your best to alienate the entire listenership of WP:IWNB - Alison 23:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Some people won't talk. The edits i am concerned about were done without talk. Ali, I know you are a fine editor. Yep, you may not have noticed, in all the broil, it's coming around. The reverts weren't reverts, but corrections. I'll have a look later. Manopingo 23:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Reflist?

Hi there, I noticed your replacement of the Enzyme inhibitor ref section with the reflist template. What is the advantage of this reformatting? I can't seem to find any new features. If this is advantageous, I'll reformat some of my other articles. TimVickers 18:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Hi Tim. I tend to use {{Reflist}} for a number of reasons; 1) it's easy to understand - you can set optional arguments for coulums and default widths, etc, 2) new editors are often confused by the <references /> tag as it's not immediately obvious to them that the references get cited right there 3) it saves the repetitive markup stuff that you need to add to format columns, etc. I like it because it's tidy and clean and easy to understand! - Alison 01:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Email

I've emailed you........... RyanPostlethwaite 00:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

An orderly salutations!

Re: User:Manopingo

Thank you for trying to act as a mediator. However, there really isn't an issue here. This user is a sock of the permabanned User:Bluegold and is - believe me - beyond being brought into the fold of reasonable conversation. I've brought it up on Theresa_knott, the blocking admin and can only wait until she responds. Regards, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 00:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the cluebat :) I had thought I recognised the style all right. I've done my best to try to address the situation but reckon it's a lost cause because whoever it is is cruising for a block/ban anyway. Has anyone tried WP:RCU? - Alison 00:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Not sure that would do any good; Angusmclellan tells me they only keep records for 6 weeks or something. It's nevertheless certain that it is he. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 00:50, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
From commentary on Theresa_knott, I have to agree. Yep - sockie, and I've been duped. Same guy as joined the Plastic Paddy editwar - Alison 01:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
He's been blocked now for 3rr, so that's that - Alison 02:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for taking care of all those usurpation requests! You're a champ :) – riana_dzasta 02:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :) My brain went into meltdown, though, because I missed a word and had to do it twice. *ack!* - Alison 02:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Warning

Barnstar alert.

The Original Barnstar
Reading through Ali-oops' Talk archives, I've come to the conclusion that she is one of the finest contributers to Misplaced Pages. She contributes superlatively to many Irish-related articles, keeps a level head throughout altercations (of which there have been many), and is generally a quality contributor and User. She also contributes to the Irish language Misplaced Pages, Meta, Wiktionary, and Commons, and regularly fights vandalism, sock-puppetry, and policy-ignorant users. Her unique knowledge of Irish culture brings a fresh perspective to that section of the Encyclopedia, and conversly she is able to translate that information to and from the Irish 'Pedia. Her qualities surmise a strong character and resilient editor, and she always greets a stubborn user or fellow editor with a smile (or the equivalent Unicode character). The best thing, however, is that she works at APPLE. I post this Barnstar to Ali-oops' page to recognize one of the few great editors on Misplaced Pages, and simultaneously I hope others can follow her example. z ε n .ıl 03:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I read through your entire Talk archives, and seriously - you are a super editor. Cheers! z ε n .ıl 03:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

  • OMG!! Well ..... I'm a little shocked, to be honest! Thank you so much for the barnstar. :) I have to say, though, that I don't do nearly enough work on the other wikis. But OMG ... <blush> - thank you! - Alison 17:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Alison.

Nice; you beat me to fixing the references on that article. I barely had chance to do one when I had to do something else. I come back, and find the references done! I suppose next time I should be quicker. :) Acalamari 19:16, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Heh! I'm always watching that page for edits (as well as Allie and Allison). You could say I've a personal interest in it! Are you an Allie too, by any chance? I've seen you around on some of the admin pages so it's nice to finally meet up :) - Alison 19:36, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Sorry, I'm not an Allie! However, you're right to guess that my real name, along with my username, begins with an "A." (Well, that shortens the guessing game down quite a lot.) Quick question: besides RFC/U, which other admin pages have you seen me on? I was unaware I'd been on so many. Acalamari 19:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I'm trying to do more in the administrative area; I should do more for the userbox on my userpage that says about me and adminship. Acalamari 20:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I noticed that your user page, like mine is semi-protected (in fact, the administrator who last semi-protected your userpage is the same administrator who semi-protected mine). I was wondering if you'd be interested in having this userbox on your userpage. I'm not promoting userboxes, I just thought it might be one you'd like to have due to the semi-protection of your page. Acalamari 00:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
  • That's kinda neat - I'll take it! Mind if I modify it to take an argument which will flip it from past to present tense? - Alison 00:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks, but no need to credit at all! It was your cool idea in the first place so it should be yours :) Glad you like it - Alison 17:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Kindness.

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
You deserve this barnstar for your work on my userbox. You did more than improve the wording: you improved the color and overall look. Acalamari 17:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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The Vandal.

So, it seems that User Talk: NaeNae18 vandalized your talk page? Well, you probably saw on his talk page that he vandalized my userpage. I told him not to vandalize, which is why he decided to vadalize my userpage. I suspect he then looked at my contributions, saw you in there, and vandalized your talk page. Acalamari 20:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

My mistake: the reason he vandalized you was more likely because he saw you revert his edit to Ciara. Acalamari 20:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Yah. It goes with the territory, I think :). 41 userpage vandals and counting ... - Alison 23:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
That vandal should feel lucky (he probably doesn't): he vandalized the pages of two users with semi-protected users pages, and he was blocked by the kindest user on Misplaced Pages. Acalamari 23:03, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
LOL!! True ... :) - Alison 23:05, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Conolly's Folly's Folly

Can you please revert your move at Conolly's Folly. The family who built the monument were the Conollys: for evidence see the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, Lewis's Topographical Directory of Ireland, 1837, Oxford Biography Index, etc. More references can be provided. --Damac 23:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK

Updated DYK query On 8 March, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Steve Stanton, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.
— coelacan — 21:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Too kind by far

Hello Alison! Thanks for the kind words and the shiny bauble. When you're completely and obviously wrong, like I was, apologising is a lot easier than sulking, or pretending you never were wrong. And congrats on the Did You Know thing. Thanks again and all the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Deletions of links

It seems that we are being chastised for putting up our link and being accused of deleting others. Just the opposite seems to be happening. Our link which leads others to an information site as well as the suggested 'Standard of Care' sent to WPATH for consideration as well as a contact site for those confused is continually being deleted. It is stated that ours is a duplicate site. It is not any more that than the myriad of sites dealing with transsexualism and transgenderism. If only one site dealing with a subject then I might suggest no need for those duplications either. Our site HTTP://www.harrybenjaminsyndrome-info.org/ is a separate site that is run by six women who have had corrective surgery. We are part of a larger group of women born with HBS and who feel unaligned with those that consider themselves as transsexual or transgender. We did not trans anything; we affirmed our physical sex to our brain gender. I can be reached directly at DianePa@yahoo.com and my real name is Diane. I had my surgery 35 yrs ago in Bklyn, NY by Dr R. Granata and my primary doctors were Harry Benjamin and Charles Ihlenfeld. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DianePa (talk • contribs)

  • You are undoubtedly the same Diane so who posted this inflammatory and entirely factually incorrect commentary to the Steve Stanton interview earlier today. So yes, you did delete other links. Here's the evidence. Here's where you deleted the {{Reflist}} template from the transsexualism article, which you have done repeatedly; at least three times now. Here's where you deleted a category (transgender) from the Transwoman article, for some reason. Here's where you attempted to embed your own website into article content even though it's already covered in the references. Here's where you inserted your POV into the article wholesale (with the obligatory link again) and again here. Note that a number of other editors - not just me - have reverted your edits. Your contributions are nothing but the same links to your own website. Please read WP:COI and WP:EL for the reasons why this is unacceptable. Please also see WP:OR to understand why original research is disallowed within Misplaced Pages. Note that HBS is an entirely non-proven syndrome and has scant acceptance among the medical and psych commmunity (including WPATH, yes). There is no proof that HBS is an intersex condition; there is just a bunch of suspicions and indeed, as I pointed out earlier today (which you did not address), recent evidence suggests that it may not be an intersex condition.
  1. Hulshoff, Cohen-Kettenis; et al. (2006). "Changing your sex changes your brain: influences of testosterone and estrogen on adult human brain structure". European Journal of Endocrinology (155): 107–114. doi:10.1530/eje.1.02248. ISSN 0804-4643. {{cite journal}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help); Explicit use of et al. in: |author= (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

- Alison 06:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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Watchlist?

I don't like to ask people about their watchlists, but do you have my user/talk page in yours? Whether you do or not, I'll add yours to mine. Acalamari 21:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Yes, I do! I'm not sure how it got there - I think I left you a message or something - but it's still there. As you're a vandal-reverter, this makes you a prime target so I think I'll leave you on there. I barely missed reverting the last vandal just now. Ryan got there before me :) Thanks for the add! - Alison 21:39, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

re:Levonorgestrel

Thanks very much for doing that. The lead clearly makes sense to me now, and the jargon at least is out of the lead and wikilinked. I agree the article needs more fleshing out, but for now my immediate concern has been met. Thank you kindly.-Andrew c 01:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Rfa Thanks

Alison, thanks an absolute bunch for supporting me in my Rfa and sticking up for me when it got a bit heated, your a really great woman and I hope this helps.......... Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 21:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Diligence
For all your help with my Rfa, especially supporting me throughout and updating my count every time it changed Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 21:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Ryan. My pleasure. Fact is, you worked so hard on it and you've earned it. Grab yer mop and swat some vandals!! - Alison 04:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I wasn't able to update the tally for Ryan; you beat me to it every time I checked! Doesn't matter, I updated Natalie Erin's tally for her. Of course, the only RfA count I won't update is my own. Can I "count" on you to update it? :) Acalamari 16:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • You're the third person who's said that within two days. :) However, I still have some other things to do before my own RfA; there's some areas I want to work on. Acalamari 20:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Personal attacks

Please stay away from my user-page. I consider your interference as a personal attack. I notice that you class such edits on your own user page, by other editors, as vandalism. Please refrain, enough! Thank you.Manopingo 00:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Personal attacks? Ali-oops reverted her edits. to your user page. Acalamari 01:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Tell ya what, Manopingo. I reverted what I thought was vandalism of your userpage. I de-reverted it immediately after I realised the situation and apologised . Recently, I tried to intervene on your behalf in an editorial dispute and petitioned three other editors to give you a fair chance . At this point, I now give up. I will no longer be intervening on your behalf. Seeya - Alison 03:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC) (thanks, Acalamari!)
Just don't touch any of my pages ever again. At least I know when I have erred. If you and your mates are intent on calling new users vandals, and the 3rr rule is not even broken, then WP becomes a hostile place. I am still waiting for an apology from one of your cohorts. I guess it will never appear. FIN. Manopingo 14:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
"Just don't touch any of my pages ever again" - consider it so. Mind you, you've had so many personae on here, it's going to be difficult to maintain. If you think WP is a "hostile place", try maybe toning down your invective. A quick look at your edit history tells it all. BTW, I have no 'cohorts' here - we're all just editors after all. Ok - we're done. Buh-bye! - Alison 14:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

My mop!

Thanks for the mop, Alison! AnthonyCFC's about to revamp my userpage, but when he's done, could you add it to my userpage for me?! I've tried and ballsed up! Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 18:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

LOL!! Yeah, no problem at all :) - Alison 18:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Editor Review.

Another user gave a review. After they gave theirs, I gave one for you. Just so you know. Acalamari 19:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Nice one for reaching 7000 edits; I think I'm going to reach 4000 sometime in the next few hours or so. Acalamari 20:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

You have new questions at Editor review

The Transhumanist   04:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

New names

Thanks! Feeling rather Madonna right now ;) – Riana agree to disagree? 08:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Slight bone to pick

In your haste to improve the hydroxyzine article, the UCB south africa drug pamphlet was removed from the references section, but left inside the ref tags. Also, i can vouch to say that it is much more in-depth than the online version replacing it, which is more-or-less the same as the Rx article, and lists far fewer of the contraindications and side effects that were found and prescribed for those in third-world countries.

The main reason it was included was a concensus between James and I, that it would contain more adverse effects and would act as a "worst case scenario" for those in western countries, due to the range experienced in Africa.

Still, thanks for your contributions! :-) J O R D A N  14:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Fair point indeed. I don't want to break concensus there and frankly, fluoxetine is not my area of expertise. Shall I re-add? - Alison 16:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)