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Internet troll squads

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Original research devised from two tangentially related articles. Essentially an attack page against Putin. SWATJester 04:54, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

* Comment The sources are in english Whoops, confused this with a different russian language article. SWATJester 15:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep (I am creator of this article). First, this is obviously not OR, which is claimed as the reason for deletion. Everything is taken from the sources. Article is based on a single reliable source, which is perfectly consitent with Misplaced Pages policies. Second, English translation of main source has been provided in the article. See: . So, could you please read this translation, and then decide if the subject is a "hoax" and notable. As explained on talk page, this is a reliable source. Third, this article say nothing personal about Putin except that FSB workers admire him (which is probably true). So, this is not attack against Putin. Finally, this article has not been created to accuse Misplaced Pages editors. I planned to create it long time ago, as anyone can see looking at my personal page User:Biophys#Links_and_notes and Talk:Persecution_of_political_bloggers#English_translation_of_Russian_article_about_.22Internet_troll_squads.22 where the same source has been used. Further, I have never made any personal accusations of that kind. If someone else did, this is not my problem. The subject about "FSB trolls in Misplaced Pages" was opened by an anonymous user in talk page FSB, so I have mostly reacted on that. I also did not want people to discuss accusations not related to me at my talk page. Biophys 17:33, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment. Just a side comment. I think that comments and opinions like this one: Talk:Federal_Security_Service_of_the_Russian_Federation#Infiltration undermine credibility of Misplaced Pages. That was one of the reasons I have created this article. I think such questions must be openly debated. That is Misplaced Pages policy to openly debate any problems (but of course without personal offences). That is why I made this notice: "KGB trolls in Misplaced Pages?" If we delete this article now, then what this anonymous user and other people could think? They (not me!) will think: "Yes, of course, those KGB trolls could not tolerate such article in Misplaced Pages." Sorry, but they will think so. Biophys 17:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply. See WP:V#Language. "Sources in other languages are acceptable if no English equivalents have been found. Published translations are preferred to editors' translations; when editors use their own translations, the original-language material should be provided too, preferably in a footnote, so that readers can check the translation for themselves." This is satisfied. Just in case, I will then copy the complete translation of the source to the article's talk page. See: Talk:Internet_troll_squads Biophys 18:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Just another comment User Biophys has been warned twice for uncivil behaviour: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive78#If_this_a_personal_attack and here http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Again_personal_attack_by_Biophys. So it's hard to belive that Biophys is concerned about Misplaced Pages. It was the Biophys who first claimed that KGB trolls are present in the Misplaced Pages by creating such an entry. So basically he wants to defame Wikipedians with this article - it is an attack page Misplaced Pages:Attack_page. Moreover, Biophys is the user who publishes in Misplaced Pages information taken from the blog La Rusophobe with telling name. His edits are directed against Russian government. He also tried twice to insert a text about Putin Phallus into the Phallus article. he tried to create an article in Misplaced Pages about blog La Russophobe but it was deleted.Vlad fedorov 18:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply. Please see: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov Biophys 18:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Reply to your Reply Please see Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Biophys. Vlad fedorov 18:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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