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Can you be more careful with templating people please? Plainly the criteria under which this is being deleted has nothing to do with me. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 08:45, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

I understood you created this page back in 2007 . -DePiep (talk) 08:48, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Sure, and then you templated me with an A3 warning as if I were a rank newbie who had just created a blank page. You blanked it yourself in the process of merging it. As such it isn't an A3 candidate in the first place, but for the sake of doing the right thing I've deleted it under G6. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:00, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Yep, that's the db-notice template hidden in the /doc, so I am glad I even found it. Still nothing wrong with noticing the creator. BTW, do I read that for you this problemette changed from "I have nothing to do with" to "as if I were a rank newbie"? Anyway, I've read A3 again and I see no issue. Anything else? -DePiep (talk) 09:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

The problem was always the latter, which was caused by you picking the wrong deletion criterion, which meant that the associated notice template was less of a friendly notice and more of a warning. It doesn't matter now; the page is gone, so let's just drop it. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

(ec)I was responding to your concerns & remarks. From the start actually. Bye. -DePiep (talk) 09:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

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Article s6 (init)

Good morning Thumperward. This article s6 (init) is as a draft, I think it should be published because it is relevant to the world of operating systems. Thank you very much. --Rstmnq1000 (talk) 00:39, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

It's not a draft, it's a skeleton. It presently contains almost no content. I've added some secondary sources to the external links; these should be used to build the article out. s6's primary use appears to be in containers, which isn't mentioned at all in the article right now, and that needs to be explained. Once it's been expanded it can be re-submitted, but right now it has no chance as a standalone article. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 16:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

List of non-mouse controllers by Apple, Inc. moved to draftspace

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Christ. Replied on your talk. You need to fix this. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 22:46, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

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Very delayed thanks

I tried to thank you for creating Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages should be fun but WP does not seem to allow thanks for a create, just an edit. Thanks though. WP should be fun — GhostInTheMachine 18:40, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks so much! I had utterly, completely forgotten about this page, but I'm very glad it helped (and I'm going to take the time to re-learn from it). Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 21:37, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Breadboard

Please fix the errors in the Breadboard article.

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2) There are errors after your edit - https://en.wikipedia.org/Breadboard#References

• Sbmeirow • Talk • 21:02, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Huh. It turns out that {{refs}} only works for references defined before it's invoked. You'd think I'd have noticed that at some point in the last fifteen years. Fixed now, thanks. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 07:05, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

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Collapsible list bold

Hi Thumperward. I’m trying to find a way to unbold the text automatically bolded as a heading when using Template:Collapsible list. Is it even possible through some additional parameter? Thank you. TaurenMoonlighting (talk) 20:05, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Yep. As below:

• a
• b
• c
• d
• e
• f

Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 22:47, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it. I’m trying to include a collapsible list within an another collapsible list. E.g.

• Polish Coalition
  • Polish People's Party
  • Union of European Democrats
  • Centre for Poland
• Poland 2050

Is it possible to make the second list display properly? TaurenMoonlighting (talk) 13:55, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

You're explicitly bolding those entries with '''. That will always take precedence. Or am I missing what you're trying to do? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 15:09, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I wasn’t precise enough. The bold issue has been resolved thanks to your advice. I mean the second collapsible list (the one within another), i.e. Polish Coalition. The show/hide button is automatically above the title instead on the right (see the Third Way show/hide option for comparison), which might be misleading for readers. Is there a way to fix it? Thank you! TaurenMoonlighting (talk) 15:33, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

I don't think so, I'm afraid. At least not without diving deep into Javascript. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:19, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Wouldn’t you mind to have a look at the article Senate Pact 2023’s infobox then? In your opinion, should I change the current version to the above one (despite the show/hide button issue), or perhaps is it fine with regard to Misplaced Pages standards now? Thanks! TaurenMoonlighting (talk) 15:20, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

I would simply remove the parties from the inner list. Infoboxes are at-a-glance, they are not meant to be exhaustive and this is a very short article already. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 17:26, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Declined PROD

I've declined the PROD on Sweet spot (economics), but not strongly.

My concern is that the argument for PROD is not strong; it claimed it was a "common idiom" but I would disagree with that. While the term "sweet spot" may be found, the meaning is varied and has subtleties that the reader may wish to have clarified. And I'm not even sure it's that common, especially today.

I would not be opposed to a merger of the multiple articles into one, but I think simply deleting any explanation based on the user already knowing the meaning is not the case. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:41, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Sigh. It's your article, of course you don't want it deleted. It's banal ("In a more general sense, the term can be applied to any optimization issue") and the single "reference" is to a blog post which is even worse (the sweet spot of economics is apparently the existence of the middle class). Merging would imply that we have articles whose purpose is to explain disparate meanings of words, i.e. dictionary definitions. PROD is such a useless system because it virtually relies on the article author having literally died since it was first created, and I spend enough of my time waiting around for editors to die already. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:39, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

I'll hurry up and die then, thanks. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:46, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

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Large see also sections

Hi! I saw you added the "too many see alsos" tag to a few articles, and since it was multiple in a short timespan (usually there's only 2-3 in that category across an entire month!) I was wondering if you had any specific way of finding these articles that have long see also sections, or if you just happened to come across them - I really enjoy cleaning these up, so if I could find them more easily that would help a lot :] No worries if it was just happenstance though! Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 01:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks so much for doing the work on these! I don't have any particular way of smelling these out (that's what the tag is for, after all) except that there's a tendency for them to clump around one another (so any particular article with an excessively long list might also be linked to from others with the same problem). I tend to check them all out when I'm doing {{annotated link}} cleanup anyway, so that helps. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 08:01, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Ivan Provedel lead section.

Hi @Thumperward. I already added lead section for Ivan Provedel page from David de Gea and André Onana as references (but I couldn't adding the name pronounciation), to be reviewed for too short lead section issue. Thank you. EdhyRa (talk) 06:07, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Perfect! Thanks so much! I've removed the tag. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:58, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Greetings and...

Hi Thumperward! I see that you did some extensive work over at Buck converter last year. As I know zilch about that subject, could you please check out this recent edit. Cheers! Technopat (talk) 10:26, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

That IP edit is simple vandalism. I think the following edit (other than the inadvertent italic text) was probably okay in intent, though it was loquatious and didn't really improve the text. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:32, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

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Maisonette

Regarding Maisonette -- there had been a discussion at Talk:Maisonette (disambiguation) resulting in moving the dab page and making the term into a primary topic redirect (which is still in place as a section hatnote at Apartment#Maisonette. I don't have an opinion as to whether it should be a PT redirect, but you might want to clean up the remaining artifacts (orphan talk page with RM and orphan hatnote). older ≠ wiser 17:01, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

At some point that redirect was undone anyway, but the problem isn't where it formerly redirected so much that the double-N version didn't point to the same place as single-N and both were dabs. I'm not sure what to do with Talk:Maisonette (disambiguation) to be honest but considering that the entirety of the discussion is about a dead RM I'm not sure it matters really. I've removed the unneeded hatnote. Cheers. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 17:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

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Water fuel cell page-move

I see for: Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell → Water fuel cell you moved the page and the talkpage archives (good--lots movers forget those!) but did not move the main talkpage itself (I assume it was blocked by actual content existing on Talk:Water fuel cell. But before you figure out how to fix that, the itself had already been proposed at Talk:Water_fuel_cell/Archive_6#Requested_move and found not to have consensus (multiple well-reasoned opposes). That's no prejudice from starting a new RM discussion, but in the mean time please undo the move. DMacks (talk) 21:03, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

I had completely forgotten about that RM (in which I actually participated). The arguments against were appalling, the close was a head-count of idiots, but I'll move it back for now. I fully expect another round of the same, though hopefully a few of the opposes since then have died (the usual way by which progress is made on here). Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 21:30, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

I take exception to your hope that I or others who participated in good faith there would die. Please strike that inappropriate comment and reflect on WP:CIVIL so we don't need to go to ANI. DMacks (talk) 22:05, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Editors are permitted leeway on their talk pages, and my expression of hope of an outcome is not an expression of a desire to make it happen. But I mean, cause as much drama as you like. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 22:09, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Also lol, you're talking about this behind my back? Hope that works out for you, in terms of pleading for people to improve their civility. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 22:13, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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Astonishing to think that you're under the impression that any reputational damage here will be on me. What a use of your weekend. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 22:31, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I apologise for my professed desire that editors with whom I historically disagreed to have died. I realise that this is not in the spirit of collaborative editing.

Furthermore, I apologise for calling other users idiots. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 02:45, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

An apology is good, though I'm skeptical you have totally seen the light in the 13 minutes between your block and this request. I was surprised to learn that you are an administrator, I don't recall ever running into you previously. Maybe you're right that there is some leeway on talk pages, but you were offered a chance to explain, apologize, and withdraw your comments and declined it, I think that used up your leeway. More is expected of administrators than other editors in terms of behavior. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 10:26, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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I have AGF and unblocked you. I think this was a stupid comment and there should be low bar for action if further incivility. Secretlondon (talk) 16:38, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I probably deserved this to be honest. I suppose standards really have changed. Once upon a time I was the one handing out indef civility blocks. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 16:40, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Culture change can be hard to spot as it's not as if one day everything changes. However Misplaced Pages is certainly not as playful as in the early days, and much less 'ignore all rules'. As the project has got bigger and higher profile there is much less tolerance for incivility, and adminship has not been 'no big deal' for years now.

However I do think blocking an admin is wrong - if you are not trusted to edit the encyclopaedia you should not be trusted to be an admin. Secretlondon (talk) 16:58, 3 December 2023 (UTC)