Misplaced Pages talk:Miscellany for deletion

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On February 2011, it was proposed that this page be moved from Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion to Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for discussion. The result of the discussion was not moved.

On May 2016, it was proposed that this page be moved from Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion to Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for discussion. The result of the discussion was no consensus (not moved).

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Shall we make a list?

Given my strong feelings about recent ~~infobox~~ userbox deletion procedures I thought it valid to raise this question: A) Shouldn't we just make a list of unacceptable things a user might disclose about themselves? It's clear from recent procedures here there are concerns about the intent of various wikipedians who use infoboxes to describe themselves on their userpage. B) Would we intervene if the user merely wrote the same thing in plain text on their userpage? (ex. "I am a young adult") C) Why or why not?

Nazis
Neo-Confederates
Homophobia
Transphobia
Anti-atheism
Atheism
I am a young adult

I'm sure there are many other potentially offensive things we might list so users recognize exactly where the boundaries exist on personal disclosure. BusterD (talk) 11:42, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Exactly.

On the first four, free text on a userpage probably will tend more to a reasonable statement in the user’s academic interest in that topic, and less to a mob slogan like Userboxes often resemble.

5&6 is probably still too taboo for Misplaced Pages to make internal rules on.

Number 7 is a newish new worry. A moral panic, just Think of the children and silence them, lock them away, Misplaced Pages must not be a welcoming place for children? We have a very sensible looking policy at Misplaced Pages:Child protection, and excellent advice at Misplaced Pages:Guidance for younger editors and Misplaced Pages:Advice for parents, I don’t know why a couple of oversighters are getting ahead of policy, and trying to push policy in practice with vague reference to their special experiences (False authority).

- SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:31, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Why is atheism controversial? —CX Zoom 06:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure why (in US politics, it's reason for a form of acceptable discrimination, IMHO). I'm merely describing the MfD process I've recently seen. Last week a userbox was up for deletion which said "This user believes in the power of violence." The deletion rationale was the box could be construed as supporting violent action. There are some concepts which are clearly unacceptable for user pages as demonstrated by these nominations, and we're working our way through individual cases one by one. BusterD (talk) 13:05, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Also, I suspect you meant "userbox", not "infobox". —CX Zoom 06:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

D'oh! BusterD (talk) 12:49, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

It appears that some users think people may be able to disclose their age via userbox. Win. BusterD (talk) 01:19, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Request: Draft:Inanimate Insanity again

This is a request: Same reason as Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination). The topic will never meet WP:GNG, the draft focuses on a BFDI spinoff and the mainspace (Inanimate Insanity) has also been salted. Pure fancruft. 118.149.86.40 (talk) 20:01, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Article tagging for a project

I'm not sure where this should be brought up but Category:Articles Archived by "Project Archive" seems a bit irregular, the tag is visible on articles but maybe it should be applied to talkpages instead? The project itself seems to be a proposal, not an active project, so I can't post this same message to the project talkpage (yet). ☆ Bri (talk) 16:15, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Question about WP:FAKEARTICLE, WP:STALE and WP:UP#NOTSUITED

I'm a bit confused about the interpretation of these. FAKEARTICLE says if it is looks like an article it might be deleted, but STALE says a user draft can be left indefinitely. Can a draft article be left indefinitely at a users top user page rather than a subpage? For example User space drafts prevented from being moved to the main space only because of the GNG are not to be kept indefinitely. There seems to be a lot of conflicting information between these rules.

An additional and related question, NOTSUITED says templates intended for articles should not be used, does this include navigation templates for topics intended to be included in articles ("Part of a series on...")? Seems like it would. Does this also get into FAKEARTICLE territory if the user page and spammed with such navigation templates? —DIYeditor (talk) 06:07, 10 November 2023 (UTC)