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Section sizes Section size for Candace Owens (38 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 10,121 10,121 Early life and education 7,207 7,207 Early career 19 6,634 Degree180 and anti-conservative blog 3,743 3,743 Privacy violation, Gamergate, and political transformation 2,872 2,872 Conservative activism 11,066 21,802 BLEXIT Foundation 5,843 5,843 Product promotion 4,893 4,893 Political views 7,722 88,113 Anti-black racism and Black Lives Matter 15,196 15,196 Women's rights 4,373 4,373 LGBT rights 7,733 7,733 Donald Trump 4,072 4,072 Immigration 2,343 2,343 Science 862 862 Climate change 2,772 2,772 Welfare 460 460 Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany 9,368 9,368 COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination 15,401 15,401 Russia and Ukraine 4,768 4,768 Jews and Judaism 9,291 9,291 Israel and Palestine 3,752 3,752 Legal issues 20 7,652 Kimberly Klacik lawsuit 4,870 4,870 Other 2,762 2,762 Controversies 20 26,602 Dispute with family of Mollie Tibbetts 2,986 2,986 Support of Kanye West 7,346 7,346 Promotion of conspiracy theories 4,403 4,403 Mention in Christchurch shooter's manifesto 5,440 5,440 Planned 2024 Australasian tour 6,407 6,407 Personal life 4,655 4,655 Bibliography 687 687 Filmography 1,283 1,283 Notes 24 24 References 28 28 Further reading 290 290 External links 2,756 2,756 Total 177,854 177,854

LGBT Rights sub-section sourcing is problematic.

So after responding to @Nlivataye's talk page post above. I reviewed the article for any potential WP:UNDUE material. After taking a look at the sub-section " LGBT Rights" (Under section "Political Views"), the sub-section contains a few WP:MREL and WP:GUNREL sourcing citations. We have Mic.com which isn't on the WP:RSP, but it was singularly sourced in the first sentence about banning transitioning individuals from joining the military. The next sentence about Disney is sourced by Forbes Contributor which is classified as generally unreliable on RSP, as well as a marginally reliable HuffPo Political piece. (Which if we remove the gunrel Forbes piece will be a single sourced mrel piece). We also have a sentence singularly cited with a gunrel YouTube url. I have no issue with leaving the WP:GREL cited material. But the other content only cited by gunrel and mrel need to be removed. Eruditess (talk) 17:10, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Totally agree. Inconsistent sourcing makes all sourcing seem unreliable Superpig05 (talk) 16:42, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

I've fixed those cites by adding others. Owens' own Twitter comment about Disney is still there for everyone to see. I'm not too bothered about the military issue, that could probably be removed as it's not that important - Owens has attacked far more LGBT targets. Black Kite (talk) 17:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

yeah there was a source that claimed she supported same sex marriage but I couldn't find anything of her stating that. What she claims indicates otherwise 2600:8801:FB13:6B00:A871:9DED:7D14:72EA (talk) 02:17, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Endorsement of Ramaswamy?

Text stating that Owens endorsed Vivek Ramaswamy for President has been correctly removed more than once for citing deprecated sources per WP:RSP. I've found two sources not listed as deprecated that contradict each other on this. Given the contradictions, I think this can be left out of the article, but I thought the sources might be worth sharing here.

Mr. Ramaswamy also has played up his connections to two prominent personalities in the online conservative press-sphere, a Daily Wire host, Candace Owens, and a podcaster, Tim Pool, touting Ms. Owens’s endorsement in a video released by his campaign.

— Payne, Russell (January 11, 2024). "With Only Days To Spare, Ramaswamy Raises His Profile in Iowa With Fresh Endorsements and Viral Videos Cheered by the Online Right". The New York Sun. Archived from the original on January 11, 2024. Retrieved February 3, 2024.

Asked if her appearance with Ramaswamy amounted to an endorsement, Owens did not directly answer. She said while she had "never endorsed a candidate in the past," she came to Iowa because she believed her appearance "would invite more media” and that "people would come out and listen to what he had to say."

— Barton, Tom (January 14, 2024). "Haley, Ramaswamy make Eastern Iowa stops in caucus closing sprint". The Gazette. Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Retrieved February 3, 2024.

— Pemilligan (talk) 15:39, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

yeah, this sort of "did they or didn't they" is why WP:ENDORSE is clear: it has to be an RS or a verifiably the person primary source and they really have to say "endorse" or a close synonym, and Owens appears to be specifically avoiding the word "endorse" or something amounting to it - David Gerard (talk) 15:43, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Owen's Crusade against Macron's wife

Given that it has raised a lot of heat and been widely reported, maybe her latest determination to "out" Macron's wife as transsexual would deserve mention in the "Controversies" section?

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Okama-San (talk) 21:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

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Candace Owens is not far right. This is a term with no accurate description. I question the sources used to determine she is far right. She is Conservative. 2A00:23C8:1112:AE01:CDEC:5B5F:6209:E3E9 (talk) 18:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. The statement in the header is extremely well-cited and the term far-right is well-established. If you feel there's an issue with it, please take it up on the talk page before requesting an edit. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 19:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Was recently added without consensus, i've reverted it for now -- FMSky (talk) 19:46, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

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