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Move back to article space

Britishfinance - I've made some changes. Do you feel comfortable moving the article back to the article space now? אגם רפאלי (talk) 13:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

אגם רפאלי. Geat job on providing references, will move it to the Mainspace now. Note that it would be great if you include the date in the reference citation (both date of the newspaper article, and the date you accessed it), as it adds to the quality and relevance of the reference. thanks. Britishfinance (talk) 13:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Notability

DGG Would you care to elaborate on what you are missing in order to remove the wikipedia:notability tag? The article currently has multiple sources (Forbes and Business Insider articles) that offer significant coverage according to the general notability guideline. On top of that there is plenty of records showing that Fuld is well published. אגם רפאלי (talk) 12:41, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

I originally tagged it for both notability and promotionalism. It think that at present you are correct that it shows at least borderline notability, but it is straightforward promotionalism and advertising for him, using vague terms of praise , and I have tagged ti accordingly. The guide here is to write not what he would want to say about himself, but what a reader hearing his name might want to know about him. Either you can fix it or I can or someone else, but unfixable promotionalism is a reason for deletion. . DGG ( talk ) 06:10, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

DGG When I first editted this I thought I had a good version. When I tagged you here I thought I removed all of the promotional material but completely missed the entire re-writing of the career paragraph. Apologies for that. I think the current version is much better at establishing notability as well as using encyclopedia-phrasing. Your comment on "write what reader hearing his name might want to know" was very helpful in discerning what was bad about the article. Thank you. What do you think about the article in its current form? אגם רפאלי (talk) 21:36, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

DGG I removed the templates as week passed with no response. If you would like to discuss it more, I'm all ears! אגם רפאלי (talk) 10:21, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

There are still problems, so I applied an appropriate tag .6 of the 12 sentences are either promotional, name dropping, or over use of personal detail. Another editor removed an extensive quote that would have made it 7/13. 6 of the 21 references are 1st part or otherwise unacceptable. DGG ( talk ) 07:02, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Note that אגם's user page says "At times I perform paid contributions." While I have no idea if Hillel Fuld paid for this page, or if it was a free gift, it does suggest that extra care should be taken to ensure quality 5.22.134.200 (talk) 05:58, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hillel just confirmed on his Linkedin, https://www.linkedin.com/posts/hillelfuld_%D7%94%D7%9C%D7%9C-%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%93-activity-6582648636419686400-4T_G, that he is personal friends with אגם (Agam in english letters) which makes this post problematic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.137.0.42 (talk) 14:01, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Extra care is merited on all wikipedia pages. Whenever I'm paid for work I always announce it loud and clear. Thank you for the ad hominem though. Notice that the article now has edits from many multiple users. Having more people writing is better, not worse. אגם רפאלי (talk) 17:56, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

I reviewed the article and as of today it looks fairly neutral in my opinion - I don't think the template is required. Marokwitz (talk) 23:11, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Add section for support of killing children

On April 10th, 2024, Hilel tweeted out that he supported the killing of the grandchildren of Ismail Haniyeh, the Prime Minister of the Palestinian National Authority, all of whom were age 10 and under, claiming these children were terrorists. I would add this to the article myself but his biography appears to have extended protection for some reason.

https://twitter.com/HilzFuld/status/1778067977604100217 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.172.134.223 (talk) 14:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

A tweet is not a valid source for a wikipedia article. Definitley not a single one. אגם רפאלי (talk) 05:20, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

I agree. It is also not NPOV and is Original research. It should be removed. Atbannett (talk) 07:29, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

I've removed it for those reasons, and there being no dissenting voices here. It's worth noting as well that the tweet is now deleted.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 11:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

You are a sad protector of Hillel Fuld @Jimbo Wales. Hillel tweeted his disgusting tweet, are you saying you agree with what he tweeted? 94.204.35.57 (talk) 16:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

That's a very odd thing to say. I found his tweet repulsive and stupid. I'm not a sad protector of Hillel Fuld, I'm a happy protector of Misplaced Pages.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 16:12, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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