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Does this look like meatpuppetry/sockpuppetry to you? Another IP arrives while IP109.242.73.191 is still blocked, doing edits to Georgian topics.
Does this look like block evasion to you? --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:01, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think you should have a look at 109.242.72.0/22 and revert where necessary. Drmies (talk) 18:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hey Drmies, just a heads up that I haven't forgotten your 4/30 e-mail, but it is a greater challenge to my tired brain than other things, so it's still sitting in my inbox waiting for me to rise to the challenge. Thanks for your patience.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- No worries Bbb--maybe I was just venting anyway. Get some rest. ;) Drmies (talk) 18:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Easier said than done. I have time to "rest". I try to rest. But I don't rest (translate sleep).--Bbb23 (talk) 18:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry Bbb. Have you exhausted the supply of "new" pharmaceuticals, including those not for sale in my state? Drmies (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- I avoid new and old pharmaceuticals. I'd much rather suffer.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry Bbb. Have you exhausted the supply of "new" pharmaceuticals, including those not for sale in my state? Drmies (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Easier said than done. I have time to "rest". I try to rest. But I don't rest (translate sleep).--Bbb23 (talk) 18:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Door Redactie/Redactie meaning
Hi Drmies, I have noticed UPE/suspected UPE editors citing articles published by nl.mashable.com. In the vast majority of instances, the by-line is Redactie. Some examples are this, this, this and this link to a list of recent articles by Redactie/Door Redactie. I get different Google translate results for "Redactie" such Editorial or Editorial Staff. What does it mean in this context? I also noticed looking at recent articles some are in Dutch and some in English. Is it normal for a Dutch publication to have some articles in Dutch and others in English (or a different language)? Happy Friday! S0091 (talk) 17:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- "Redactie" simply means "staff", yes. Sure, the Dutch know English, and while I don't read any bilingual publications myself, I'm sure they exist. But I would NOT accept Mashable articles (any of the ones that I just looked at) as acceptable sources: it seems to me that it's all marketing-driven. Look at this shit, for instance, written by the same "Redactie". This is just an ad for this. Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources has a note on it--and I haven't seen anything on it yet that is not "sponsored content". That movie review for The Fall Guy has a by-line, but no one should cite that here. Drmies (talk) 21:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK I saw the article created by Wellington. Are there more? Drmies (talk) 21:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- This started with Justin Jin (entrepreneur) created by User:Deondernemers (AfD, last batch of socks listed at User talk:Blablubbs#Shewasafairy). Deondernemers states on their user page their wife works for Mashable and they used it for the JJ article along with Draft:Poybo Media (JJ's company) and Undetectable.ai . I did an insource search for "nl.mashable.com" out of curiosity and that's how I found Wellington's articles along with articles created by other likely UPE editors such as 12Go and Andrew Masanto. Take a look at the glorious WP:CITEOVERKILL at Georgina Lara Booth. S0091 (talk) 15:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- S0091, that last article is absolutely awful and I'm not done with it. In the meantime, and maybe you can pass this on to that section on Blablubbs's talk page, I blocked Wellington, a pretty obvious paid editor, for socking with User:Goodmans238; note the overlap which isn't huge but is significant. I ran another check or two but found no connection to the sockfarm(s) discussed in that section. Drmies (talk) 16:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure they are connected but I'll leave a note for B just in case. Based on off-wiki research and what I see here, there are several publications that are for hire so used by various UPEs. Mashable is just one and the JJ articles serve as an excellent guide to several others. Every single source was paid for and much of what they say is at best stretching the truth if not pure bullshit. The other UPE tactic I've noticed is drumming up a "controversy", either fake or something mild, because they believe it will protect them from NPOV/UPE speculation and it does work as you can see with Wellington. Both EV.com and Gulstan Advisory passed NPP review. See also this example of having a controversy section being used as a reason to remove the UPE tag. Thanks for entertaining my rabbit hole. I know there's more to come as I keep digging. S0091 (talk) 17:10, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- S0091, that last article is absolutely awful and I'm not done with it. In the meantime, and maybe you can pass this on to that section on Blablubbs's talk page, I blocked Wellington, a pretty obvious paid editor, for socking with User:Goodmans238; note the overlap which isn't huge but is significant. I ran another check or two but found no connection to the sockfarm(s) discussed in that section. Drmies (talk) 16:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- This started with Justin Jin (entrepreneur) created by User:Deondernemers (AfD, last batch of socks listed at User talk:Blablubbs#Shewasafairy). Deondernemers states on their user page their wife works for Mashable and they used it for the JJ article along with Draft:Poybo Media (JJ's company) and Undetectable.ai . I did an insource search for "nl.mashable.com" out of curiosity and that's how I found Wellington's articles along with articles created by other likely UPE editors such as 12Go and Andrew Masanto. Take a look at the glorious WP:CITEOVERKILL at Georgina Lara Booth. S0091 (talk) 15:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
IP block evasion
I recently noticed that a disruptive IP editor operating on the 6-month blocked 2003:C0:6F00:0:0:0:0:0/42 range has been utilizing the 2003:C0:6F00:0:0:0:0:0/41 range (despite the block notice for the /42 range being visible when viewing contributions from the /41 range). As the blocking admin, I request some sort of broadening of the net, if possible. Thank you, ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK, but I want you to know that I was the blocking admin. That person is persistent, aren't they. Drmies (talk) 13:18, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- My grammar was terrible there, as I was trying to be clear that you were the blocking admin. Clearly, I wasn't clear. Best and thanks, ~ Pbritti (talk) 13:34, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Gotcha. No problem. BTW I also found that notice to be confusing, and it's not the first time I see that. Thanks, and keep up the good work. Drmies (talk) 16:18, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- For some reason, it just occurred to me to ask: if it's a 6-month block that began 1 December (link), why is the notice still visible? Additionally, your most recently applied block is only visible when viewing individual IP's contributions on the /41 range—of no consequence but still odd. I feel like something funky must be occurring with the blocks on that particular range. In any case, best to you and thanks for your great help! ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Pbritti, I don't know what to tell you. I checked the logs, including my own, and I see what you see but it also clearly says, when I try to confirm the block, "2003:C0:6F00:0:0:0:0:0/41 is already blocked". Strange--but again, I've seen similar strangenesses before... Drmies (talk) 15:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Considering your experience with it and the fact it hasn't been a real problem, I'll not worry about it. Again, thanks for your help! ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I believe this may be because both /41 and /42 begin at "6F00". I don't think think the code is taking the /range portion into consideration at all, but just "blocks that apply to 2003:C0:6F00:0:0:0:0:0". If that's true, then the /42 is older so shows first. Someone smarter who's actually read the code could say more. -- ferret (talk) 15:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Considering your experience with it and the fact it hasn't been a real problem, I'll not worry about it. Again, thanks for your help! ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Pbritti, I don't know what to tell you. I checked the logs, including my own, and I see what you see but it also clearly says, when I try to confirm the block, "2003:C0:6F00:0:0:0:0:0/41 is already blocked". Strange--but again, I've seen similar strangenesses before... Drmies (talk) 15:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- For some reason, it just occurred to me to ask: if it's a 6-month block that began 1 December (link), why is the notice still visible? Additionally, your most recently applied block is only visible when viewing individual IP's contributions on the /41 range—of no consequence but still odd. I feel like something funky must be occurring with the blocks on that particular range. In any case, best to you and thanks for your great help! ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Gotcha. No problem. BTW I also found that notice to be confusing, and it's not the first time I see that. Thanks, and keep up the good work. Drmies (talk) 16:18, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- My grammar was terrible there, as I was trying to be clear that you were the blocking admin. Clearly, I wasn't clear. Best and thanks, ~ Pbritti (talk) 13:34, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Mistakes are being made
So, I'm back and I have this thing being written up. Any chance you'd be able get me a copy of Sandeep Ray's article about it? Or if there are any Dutch sources... — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:57, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- YOURE BACK!!!! (tandfonline--probably not; I'll look for dutch sources later) Drmies (talk) 01:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Kinda, sorta. One person I'd met and one I'd cited extensively passed, so I cleaned up their articles enough for ITN, then I found myself writing about some other women's rights activists, and then ... boom. I'll try the desk for that Ray article. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- And the quality of new articles in the Indonesian project has just gone up... JarrahTree 10:38, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Chris, my library actually has that journal (online), but not this issue--not until a year after publication. I'd ask the fine people at the WP:LIBRARY. Drmies (talk) 15:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm I found a few hits, including in this book which looks interesting ;), but not much else. Apparently the VPRO had it on their site, and here is something really interesting (I'm watching). I'm sure you saw this already. Drmies (talk) 15:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks - I did manage to get the article through the Misplaced Pages Library; didn't realize we had this program up. I'm seeing that a lot of these references to Mecca are after I touched on Krugers in my thesis; nice to know I was on the vanguard! I'll take a look at those sources after work. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Seeming IP sock of block USER:SteveBenassi making POV edits and edit warring
Hello. I am unsure whether you are the one to contact about this or of the procedure. But I am messaging because I suspect the IP user https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2601:444:300:B070:E90B:1155:46C0:DBB0 to be a sock of the user USER:SteveBenassi who was blocked for being WP:NOTHERE. I thought I might bring this to your attention because you were the one who blocked SteveBenassi last time.
The IP is now active on some of the same pages and engaged in edit warring and POV-pusging edits. Similarities include POV-pushing in favor of the minority views on Jewish genetics of Eran Elhaik and Yardumian and posting their studies on the Talk pages of a range of articles related to Jews (especially Genetic studies of Jews and Ashkenazi Jews), insistence on edit warring, ignoring revert explanations and objections to their changes, and a refusal to build WP:CONSENSUS.(), as well as WP:SOAPBOX-like starements in Talk pages. The same claim/insistence that, "Elhaik is a Zionist but is not biased." was also made by both this IP and the blocked user. See here and here:
SteveBenassi also claimed to be from Minnesota on his user page. And this IP geolocates to same region of the north Midwestern US.
Here is the article's revision history for reference. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Genetic_studies_of_Jews&action=history
Their edit warring seems to be getting worse. Any attention to this matter is appreciated. Skllagyook (talk) 12:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 12:53, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Skllagyook (talk) 15:24, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
BeauSuzanne
You told BeauSuzanne (talk · contribs) to lay off editing while logged out, but they're still at it, making drafts using unreliable sources and even voting on AfDs, which feels like they're trying to WP:GAMING. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Saqib. It wasn't me. I am not doing any edit outside of my account. I am active on my account.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 15:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC))
- How did you just appear out of nowhere? —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Saqib You pinged them in your message. -- ferret (talk) 15:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oh ok - but they've been inactive for over 6 hours now. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:23, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Saqib Pings can cause emails to a user. I personally turn that off but. -- ferret (talk) 15:32, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oh ok - but they've been inactive for over 6 hours now. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:23, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Saqib You pinged them in your message. -- ferret (talk) 15:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- How did you just appear out of nowhere? —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am right here. And checking some articles.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 15:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC))
- Oh I'm going to have to be stern. User:Saqib, there is NO technical evidence whatsoever that BeauSuzanne is socking. I will grant you that there are similarities, but please don't state as a fact what you can only hypothesize--again, there is NO evidence, and I just checked. I appreciate that you're trying to keep the place clean, but the IPs you are pointing at are not them--they do, of course, warrant scrutiny, and I'll ping Liz and User talk:ToadetteEdit so they know what they're dealing with. However, BeauSuzanne, there is a WEALTH of evidence that you have been editing while logged out, for a long time and in many articles. Marina Khan shows it, as do a host of other articles, so just stop that talk--and consider yourself lucky you weren't CU-blocked for logged-out collusion. Drmies (talk) 15:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I don't recall you specifically telling me that this IP range isn't linked with BeauSuzanne, otherwise, I wouldn't have accused them again. But I'm just curious, why isn't anyone bothering to look into behavioral evidence? Why do we have to rely solely on technical evidence? —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't specify this or any other range, but I said last time there was no evidence of them socking, if I remember correctly. As for behavioral evidence--I didn't look at that because I don't really see the need to. The technical evidence tells me they're most likely not socking unless they travel a lot of miles very frequently, and for me that's all there is to it. If BeauSuzanne's editing is problematic, there are ways to address it. Keep in mind that, for many of us, socking doesn't really become interesting unless the edits are problematic. Does that make sense? Drmies (talk) 16:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that makes sense. And if you recall, I started a discussion on WP:AN and explained why I see their editing behavior as similar to paid editing, but it didn't get much attention, and it's now archived and such lack of action gives more encouragement to paid editors. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 17:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Right. Well, AN and ANI, it's always a grab bag. You can try WP:COIN also... Drmies (talk) 17:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Seriously? I'm not going to go down that route. After presenting my case at WP:AN, which unfortunately went unnoticed, I feel like another report on BeauSuzanne might lead people to think I'm personally attacking them, especially since BeauSuzanne has mentioned it several times now, even on Liz's tp. On a different note, some sock farms created and contributed extensively this page to WP:GAME and now my concerns have been confirmed because this IP range is defending their questionable sources and citing WP:PKRS as a reference. I'm just curious if this IP range can be checked for socking. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 17:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Right. Well, AN and ANI, it's always a grab bag. You can try WP:COIN also... Drmies (talk) 17:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that makes sense. And if you recall, I started a discussion on WP:AN and explained why I see their editing behavior as similar to paid editing, but it didn't get much attention, and it's now archived and such lack of action gives more encouragement to paid editors. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 17:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't specify this or any other range, but I said last time there was no evidence of them socking, if I remember correctly. As for behavioral evidence--I didn't look at that because I don't really see the need to. The technical evidence tells me they're most likely not socking unless they travel a lot of miles very frequently, and for me that's all there is to it. If BeauSuzanne's editing is problematic, there are ways to address it. Keep in mind that, for many of us, socking doesn't really become interesting unless the edits are problematic. Does that make sense? Drmies (talk) 16:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I don't recall you specifically telling me that this IP range isn't linked with BeauSuzanne, otherwise, I wouldn't have accused them again. But I'm just curious, why isn't anyone bothering to look into behavioral evidence? Why do we have to rely solely on technical evidence? —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oh I'm going to have to be stern. User:Saqib, there is NO technical evidence whatsoever that BeauSuzanne is socking. I will grant you that there are similarities, but please don't state as a fact what you can only hypothesize--again, there is NO evidence, and I just checked. I appreciate that you're trying to keep the place clean, but the IPs you are pointing at are not them--they do, of course, warrant scrutiny, and I'll ping Liz and User talk:ToadetteEdit so they know what they're dealing with. However, BeauSuzanne, there is a WEALTH of evidence that you have been editing while logged out, for a long time and in many articles. Marina Khan shows it, as do a host of other articles, so just stop that talk--and consider yourself lucky you weren't CU-blocked for logged-out collusion. Drmies (talk) 15:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
BTW I don't think that the sourcing in Draft:Gumn is significantly worse than for comparable articles in article space. Drmies (talk) 21:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- It appears you're focusing on quantity here. At first glance, the references seems sufficient, but upon closer examination, many of these sources fall into non RS category. While the remaining sources, which are considered RS lack sufficient coverage according to WP:SIRS. If you're up for it, I can evaluate each and every one of them for you. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 22:45, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- I've removed CRAP sources. They don't even meet the borderline criteria for WP:RS and can't be used for WP:V. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:36, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
FYI: Account you indef blocked is back on an alt to ask for an unblock
FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:SpooderMan6920no1#May_2024 Pilaz (talk) 17:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) i opened an SPI -- Aunva6 20:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- aand they blocked -- Aunva6 21:53, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks--and thanks, Ponyo. Drmies (talk) 21:55, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- aand they blocked -- Aunva6 21:53, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Admin's Barnstar |
| Thank you for stopping the vandalism on the Wayne Brady page. You deserve this star for your effort. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 00:15, 7 May 2024 (UTC) |
- I absolutely did not expect you to tell the sock account to "get a life". I laughed so hard. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 00:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I probably shouldn't have, but it's so sad. I'm the supposed "gender-confused moron", and he is the sad person who's got nothing better to do than to go from public place to library to coffeeshop, vandalizing articles. I'm at home, not confused about anything at all except for why the Knicks aren't up by ten points; he's being doing this lonely stuff probably since the last time the Pacers bead the Knicks in the conference semifinals. He hates women, he hates Black people, he hates successful people. Drmies (talk) 00:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's just like some people say: "Those punks will never learn." And yes, my brother goes to IU, so he's obviously supporting the Pacers. I mean, I sometimes watch NBA games, but for the most part , I'm not sure if the Pacers/Knicks are doing well this season. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 00:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, he's probably not done. Look at the writing, look at the size of the edit--don't revert, just report to AIV. If you revert, he reverts, and he gets off on that. Yeah I know, that's sad and crusty too. Drmies (talk) 00:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Did not see that after I wrote my comment above. Ack. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 00:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I probably shouldn't have, but it's so sad. I'm the supposed "gender-confused moron", and he is the sad person who's got nothing better to do than to go from public place to library to coffeeshop, vandalizing articles. I'm at home, not confused about anything at all except for why the Knicks aren't up by ten points; he's being doing this lonely stuff probably since the last time the Pacers bead the Knicks in the conference semifinals. He hates women, he hates Black people, he hates successful people. Drmies (talk) 00:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Wherefore art thou English majors?
I saw this and thought of you. -- Ponyo 17:21, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's the end, and yet I feel fine. Geoff | 17:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ugh. You should see how badly my students did in Intro to Linguistics on basic matters of grammar and sound. Also, yeah, I'm sure we're not the only ones losing English majors--countdown to retirement. God I never thought I'd say that. Thanks Ponyo--I'll read it after my nap. ;) Drmies (talk) 17:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm at least glad that they retained English classes in high school (even though I'm about to go to college). I have no idea if they are going to keep English in schools, or if they'll just get rid of it entirely. The possibilities are endless NoobThreePointOh (talk) 18:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not an English major, but I will chime in to say that I'm feeling pretty useless as an Indonesian lit major in... a city with an Indonesian population of less than 300. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:53, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm at least glad that they retained English classes in high school (even though I'm about to go to college). I have no idea if they are going to keep English in schools, or if they'll just get rid of it entirely. The possibilities are endless NoobThreePointOh (talk) 18:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Yeah it's depressing. Funny, I know Cohen, the ASU dean--he works in my field and has written interesting material on monsters. There are so many factors here, like the lack of state funding, the fetishistic focus on STEM (at my wife's high school, teaching STEM gets you a 20k bonus), the enduring treatment of English faculty and English departments as service people--we get to teach the hard stuff, at half the salary, and the fad of Writing across the curriculum is probably over now because it turns out that the rest of the faculty can't teach writing and can barely write themselves, so it became English professors teaching everyone else how to write in their field.
No one talks or listens to the staff or the cleaning crew, and that's what we are, teaching freshman comp and lit survey--core curriculum, for as long as it lasts, and ChatGPT isn't helping. My colleagues in history have five years to bring up their number of graduating students, an impossible task given their current number of majors, which declines every year; in five years, they'll have to merge into something else. And a decade or more ago (there's much talk of institutional support and fancy new buildings in the article)--OK, 17 years ago, when I came to this place, the plans for a new Liberal Arts building were hanging in our conference room, but the old-timers were already laughing at that: a pipe dream. Ten years ago the repainted the room and quietly took the plans down; where that building was going to be are now a set of smaller labs, not far from the brand new science building. And of course we built a state of the art rec center because that, apparently, draws students. Ah well. The article included someone who was "late-career": I wouldn't have thought I'd feel that way so quickly. Drmies (talk) 21:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Likely IP sock of User:Sudsahab making PoV edits
Hello @Drmies. I wanted to inform you that an IP , likely a sock of User:Sudsahab, is trying to restore the article Northern Campaign of Raghunath Rao. It's likely that this will continue and so I suggest that you indefinite protect the page. PadFoot2008 11:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm sorry, but there's no technical evidence for socking that I can see. Drmies (talk) 16:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Philosophical
- ForestCaptain735 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
I don't have the energy for this user. Not all of their edits are wrong, but many are, and they apparently don't feel the need to respond to my warnings, and I'm not comfortable blocking. Communication obviously isn't their strong point, but you're more willing than I to engage (new) editors. Plus humanities is more your area than mine. I don't believe in humanity. If you don't want to do anything, I absolutely understand, but I thought I'd give it a shot. Back to our Spring weather.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Just make sure that if you ever have or meet some kids that you send them off to humanities, and not into business or computer science or whatever. They can ALWAYS do that later in life. Drmies (talk) 23:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have six kids, all of whom will be going to college shortly. I've told them all to major in business so they can support their parents in the style we'd like to be accustomed to. I figure even if only half of them major in business, the odds are good at least one of them will have plenty of money. The biggest problem I foresee is the more successful they are the less likely they are to "share the wealth". They teach them that in Greed 101, a required first-year course.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Bbb stop telling stretchers. Drmies (talk) 02:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have six kids, all of whom will be going to college shortly. I've told them all to major in business so they can support their parents in the style we'd like to be accustomed to. I figure even if only half of them major in business, the odds are good at least one of them will have plenty of money. The biggest problem I foresee is the more successful they are the less likely they are to "share the wealth". They teach them that in Greed 101, a required first-year course.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Drmies is right. I ended up going into government after humanities! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- The other way of looking at it is you could have been making money a lot earlier--but then the world would be deprived of all these great articles on old Indonesian movies! Drmies (talk) 01:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- "Money" :) Pretty sure if I'd gotten my degree converted to an MA and done two years of teacher's college, I'd be earning a bit more a year teaching (and it would cap out near twice what I'm earning now). But yeah, it is fun writing articles. This guy sounds like he just wanted to care for his garden, and they decided administration should be his gig. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:20, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I'm taking marketing and business when I go to college. I had chosen cybersecurity at first, then political science, and now this. The worst part is that my older brother told me that I'll have to take business calculus in my spring semester of college, and I'm not really looking forward to it. I did pretty (well I don't want to sugarcoat it) shitty in precalculus during my junior year of high school. I've learnt the saying "Cs get degrees", but calculus is what really freaks me out because of derivatives, functions, etc. This is not going to be fun at all. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 02:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Good thing college in the US is easy! And on your side it's "Cs get degrees"; we're more of the "C is the new D" mindset. Drmies (talk) 02:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Nah, calculus is the worst. It makes me want to just smack my head on the wall. In fact, during my junior year, I had not just precalculus, but also chemistry during that same semester. But uh, yeah. I assume on your side Cs are just as bad as Ds. Eugh. All I pray is that college is indeed easy, because I've only got about a week or so left until I finally leave high school. I know it might be easy in the U.S., but I reeaaallly don't want to take any chances. Hoo boy. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 02:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ha, no I meant it: college in the US is easy. That you have to take calculus is unfortunate--should have been handled in high school, haha. And what I meant was that in the old days, say a decade ago, if a certain number of points on an exam, a certain quality of writing in a paper, a level of understanding, would have been graded "D", today we give it a C, in large part because we want your tuition. Did you know that college professors get evaluated on their students' grades? If y'all make poor grades, if you get sick and drop a class, if you can't afford tuition and drop out of college, we are the ones who get blamed for it and this directly influences merit raises (which are usually the only raises we get). So please do well and make your professor look good. ;) Drmies (talk) 02:20, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Riiight. It might not be easy, but I guess it depends on effort. Oh well. Definitely should keep my expectations up and just show my best work. :P NoobThreePointOh (talk) 02:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ha, no I meant it: college in the US is easy. That you have to take calculus is unfortunate--should have been handled in high school, haha. And what I meant was that in the old days, say a decade ago, if a certain number of points on an exam, a certain quality of writing in a paper, a level of understanding, would have been graded "D", today we give it a C, in large part because we want your tuition. Did you know that college professors get evaluated on their students' grades? If y'all make poor grades, if you get sick and drop a class, if you can't afford tuition and drop out of college, we are the ones who get blamed for it and this directly influences merit raises (which are usually the only raises we get). So please do well and make your professor look good. ;) Drmies (talk) 02:20, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Nah, calculus is the worst. It makes me want to just smack my head on the wall. In fact, during my junior year, I had not just precalculus, but also chemistry during that same semester. But uh, yeah. I assume on your side Cs are just as bad as Ds. Eugh. All I pray is that college is indeed easy, because I've only got about a week or so left until I finally leave high school. I know it might be easy in the U.S., but I reeaaallly don't want to take any chances. Hoo boy. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 02:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Good thing college in the US is easy! And on your side it's "Cs get degrees"; we're more of the "C is the new D" mindset. Drmies (talk) 02:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I'm taking marketing and business when I go to college. I had chosen cybersecurity at first, then political science, and now this. The worst part is that my older brother told me that I'll have to take business calculus in my spring semester of college, and I'm not really looking forward to it. I did pretty (well I don't want to sugarcoat it) shitty in precalculus during my junior year of high school. I've learnt the saying "Cs get degrees", but calculus is what really freaks me out because of derivatives, functions, etc. This is not going to be fun at all. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 02:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- "Money" :) Pretty sure if I'd gotten my degree converted to an MA and done two years of teacher's college, I'd be earning a bit more a year teaching (and it would cap out near twice what I'm earning now). But yeah, it is fun writing articles. This guy sounds like he just wanted to care for his garden, and they decided administration should be his gig. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:20, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- The other way of looking at it is you could have been making money a lot earlier--but then the world would be deprived of all these great articles on old Indonesian movies! Drmies (talk) 01:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Huge off-Wiki coordination
Hi Drmies, hope you're doing well. In terms of Sudsahab's unblock request, I would highly implore (I hope I'm using the word correctly?) you to take a look at this first . There's much more going on than meets the eye, I'm afraid if nothing is done, the Discord group will have a monopoly over Indian-related articles. Heck, they already kinda have. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
RD6 in Talk:The Monument Mythos
I think this revision also qualifies for REVDEL because of its edit summary. Nickps (talk) 11:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- may also qualify. Nickps (talk) 13:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, it was the one from the bot. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 15:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Snell's law
On May 11 I blocked Casteiswrong, a new account, for 3 days for edit-warring. On May 13, another user, GoneWithThePuffery (great username), an older but not very old account, started editing the article Talk page, apparently taking up the slack. GWTP was accused by a couple of editors of socking. They deny it. Can you check to see if they're the same person? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- I looked at their edit summaries which suggest those editors might be right. Drmies (talk) 17:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- YGM. Drmies (talk) 17:33, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks much, got it.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Let's have lunch then. And a nap. Drmies (talk) 17:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks much, got it.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Did you want to comment at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/GoneWithThePuffery?--Bbb23 (talk) 12:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- No, but I did and now my coffee is cold. ;) Drmies (talk) 13:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I dunno what happens when you mix a Dutch man with the American deep south, but you might get iced coffee...with some chicory.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I need to try that, the chicory I mean, for that New Orleans flavor. BTW I always drink coffee from Fine Bone China cups made by Roy Kirkham, I'm picky that way. And I'm watching the Giro so I think I'm pretty cosmopolitan, haha. Drmies (talk) 14:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- You should change to Sèvres, classier and not so fussy/frilly. Gyro I'm familiar with, giro I had to look up. I suppose cycling is better than football if I'm forced to choose.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'll consider that, bro. Drmies (talk) 16:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- You should change to Sèvres, classier and not so fussy/frilly. Gyro I'm familiar with, giro I had to look up. I suppose cycling is better than football if I'm forced to choose.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I need to try that, the chicory I mean, for that New Orleans flavor. BTW I always drink coffee from Fine Bone China cups made by Roy Kirkham, I'm picky that way. And I'm watching the Giro so I think I'm pretty cosmopolitan, haha. Drmies (talk) 14:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I dunno what happens when you mix a Dutch man with the American deep south, but you might get iced coffee...with some chicory.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- No, but I did and now my coffee is cold. ;) Drmies (talk) 13:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
SPI case
@Drmies:. Hesistant to reach you this way but I had no option. Southasianhistorian8 has done forum shopping for another deceptive and bogus SPI case against me and reached out to RegentsPark and Abecedere WP:OTHERPARENT. He has created a bully atmosphere. I am not asking you to look at this case (would be helpful though) but can you give your input on the SPI case since you looked at it before. RangersRus (talk) 20:33, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is the case Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/HaughtonBrit#Suspected_sockpuppets_2 RangersRus (talk) 20:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Drmies, both RegentsPark and Abecedare, two admins familiar with HB's extremely convoluted web of lies and the content nuances involved, agree that the case against RangersRus is strong. Abecedare requested a CU check on him and RegentsPark, from his quick look at it, was also in agreement that the case is strong. Numerous editors and admins are aware and commented that there's obvious sock-puppetry going on to subvert AFDs, vote stack and twist the result in their favour. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Numerous? Exaggerate and lies much? Now bullying by reverting my changes on page Crew (film) something that you have not been part of before. RangersRus (talk) 21:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Accidentally reverting an edit because of a Twinkle mistake (if you click the vandalism button, it automatically reverts the edit without giving the clicker an option to backtrack) hardly constitutes "bullying". Given that you've used Twinkle extensively-, you should know this.
- RegentsPark, Abecedare, The Wordsmith (who commented about the Historian2325 case), Noorullah21, and I have spoken out about the sockpuppetry going on from HB. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Accidents? On page I edited? Why even there? Hounding? This is everything from bullying to harassa to hounding. RangersRus (talk) 21:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I suggest keeping discussion to the SPI page. Spreading drama doesn't help anyone. The SPI clerks, CUs and admins are pretty good at finding socks without false positives. -- Aunva6 21:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- You are right. I was hesistant to come here but when forum shopping like this takes place User_talk:RegentsPark#HaughtonBrit you can't help to reach admin who looked at the case before. RangersRus (talk) 21:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I suggest keeping discussion to the SPI page. Spreading drama doesn't help anyone. The SPI clerks, CUs and admins are pretty good at finding socks without false positives. -- Aunva6 21:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Accidents? On page I edited? Why even there? Hounding? This is everything from bullying to harassa to hounding. RangersRus (talk) 21:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Drmies, both RegentsPark and Abecedare, two admins familiar with HB's extremely convoluted web of lies and the content nuances involved, agree that the case against RangersRus is strong. Abecedare requested a CU check on him and RegentsPark, from his quick look at it, was also in agreement that the case is strong. Numerous editors and admins are aware and commented that there's obvious sock-puppetry going on to subvert AFDs, vote stack and twist the result in their favour. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Southasianhistorian8, you mentioned User:The Wordsmith--they were convinced that RangersRus was not an HB sock. I just looked at the other account and found no technical evidence of malfeasance. Drmies (talk) 22:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding the RangersRus' report in March, a lot of new evidence has come forth and the previous SPI was not well written. The current version is much, much better written and 2 admins, both of whom have dealt with HB extensively and are aware of the South Asian content nuances, have stated it is a strong case. Regarding the CU checks, somehow, someway, HB manages to consistently trick CUs; I've commented before how HB would employ proxies to hound me, and some of them managed to pass Misplaced Pages proxy checker tools as well as spur (which Yamla directed me to), the common feature among all those proxies was that they would be linked to some random obscure business that was clearly not a legitimate ISP; instead of being linked to AT&T, Verizon, Comcast etc, they would be linked to something like AIC Communications, Level 3 Communications, Align Network.
- Finmas, who was a loud duck quacking into a megaphone; his first check had at him "Unrelated" and then later "Inconclusive". Dazzem was a "possible" even though it too was an undeniable sock, which The Wordsmith can attest to (for both accounts).
- Look at the user talk of MehmoodS; Yamla did a check for his bogus unblock request, stating " Whether or not that precludes them from making a request under WP:SO is up to the reviewing admin. Checkuser data shows no other evidence of evasion" even though he was consistently making hundreds of edits logged out for 7 months straights beforehand + was operating a sock account Javerine at the same time.
- Yamla even stated in the previous CU check for Historian2325 that it's difficult to extract useful technical information and that SPAs should be blocked on bheavioural evidence.
- Underestimating HB's extreme resoluteness to block evade and taking CU findings at face value is a mistake. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 22:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- For example, this proxy 65.205.15.158 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) was employed to continue HB's edit war, making the exact same edits as his actual IPs which geolocate to Pennsylvania. The 65* proxy manages to pass Misplaced Pages's proxy checker as well as spur https://spur.us/context/65.205.15.158, obscures HB's actual location, and if you search the ISP "AIC Communications" there are zero legitimate ISPs under that name.
- Same thing for this proxy as well 207.189.217.195 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) which he employed- it passes Misplaced Pages's proxy tools and spur, it obscures his actual location, and if you search up the ISP "Accelerated Connections", it's obvious that it isn't a legitimate ISP.
- 65.211.34.66 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)), another proxy that he used, passes Misplaced Pages's proxy checker as well as spur. But it's so obviously a proxy, the ISP "Friendwell Managment LLC" is a property management company!
- There are numerous other examples of this. He's making a fool out of everyone. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 23:21, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Accelerated communications is a legitimate tier 1 isp that leases bandwith to other providers. Friendwell management, on the other hand, owns the hotel that is listed in the whois address. 65.205.15.158 comes back in tracert to Intercontinental Hotels.
- in any case, admins will consider behavioral evidence as well. -- Aunva6 01:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I feel more like a sucker than like a fool. Drmies (talk) 01:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
GWTP
I suppose that you noticed and understand that and that too ? I respect your work as an admin, and I would like to sincerely thank you for that here. I apologized because you asked me to do so and, again, as I know your work as an admin and I respect it, I did so, but I think you're mistaken about that editor, they don't seem to be here to build an encyclopedia. Best.---Wikaviani 17:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know about that. Saying that you're apologizing because you have to, yeah I can see why they're not happy with that. As I said on that talk page, I probably actually agree with their edits, but they are so rude that I have no interest in staying in that fight. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I got you and I understand your decision. However, since you were involved in this mess, I think it's fair to let you know that I reported GWTP to ANI for continued edit-warring and personal attacks. For the records, I don't expect you to intervene again if you don't want to do so. Best.---Wikaviani 15:11, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I saw that. I don't know what to think. I wish they weren't so rude. Drmies (talk) 15:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I got you and I understand your decision. However, since you were involved in this mess, I think it's fair to let you know that I reported GWTP to ANI for continued edit-warring and personal attacks. For the records, I don't expect you to intervene again if you don't want to do so. Best.---Wikaviani 15:11, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
IP block exemption extention
Hi Drmies,
I am currently IP block exempt until 14 June. I have these rights because I live in China during holidays. I am returning on the 18th of June, and I wish to edit during my time back, so I emailed the checkuser team two weeks ago, but I have gotten no response. Is it possible for me to get an extension on my rights? Thank you very much. Daftation 🗩 🖉 18:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- GeneralNotability, for some reason I still can't get into VRT, so I can't check the ticket. You exempted them in the first place--do you mind having a look? Thanks! Drmies (talk) 20:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- They haven't edited in over a month. Floquenbeam (talk) 20:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Help if possible
Hi Drmies. I've never asked an admin for help before but if you can please provide an opinion here, I would be really appreciative. I am sorry if this sounds immature or against AGF, but I just do not consider it possible to have a reasonable discussion with Jack. I used every ounce of willpower not to revert his edit because, when there is an option here, I am determined to take the highest ground possible and act in accordance with the spirit of 3RR. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well apparently they're happy to live with consensus so I don't see why you wouldn't revert. Drmies (talk) 00:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Recently blocked user back on carbonated milk
Hello. You recently blocked IP range User:2601:98A:4000:3660:0:0:0:0/64 for edit warring on carbonated milk. They have returned as User:Flaerhart, an account created three days ago who has previously inserted the same link to a school news blog. Could you please apply a block to this account as well?
Regards, XabqEfdg (talk) 01:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Gladly! Drmies (talk) 01:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Srimonbanik2007
I was considering blocking ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ as a sock, and I noticed that you just recently confirmed Gundaraaj. Obviously, you didn't uncover ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ in your check, but I'm not sure how many ranges this farm uses. ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ edits the same election pages (compared to a different sock) and is fairly prolific quickly as have been many previous socks. Can you check?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm I just got done blocking Balgangadhar too. OK, I see the overlap, and the geolocation is not impossible. The UA is different but they may have been on the road--but they made their edits consistently over one single range so I don't think that's it either. I think you're dealing with someone who also has an interest in general national elections, but not in other matters that are so important to the sockmaster. However, the caveat is two-fold: I haven't had coffee yet and I'm not intimately acquainted with the habits of this one. Drmies (talk) 13:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's interesting. Izno, who is no longer a CU, confirmed Happyjit Singh, although if you look at the sequence of events in a discussion Izno had with Ponyo in the archive, it's not your usual confirmation. I bring this up because Happyjit, unlike "your" recent confirmed socks, did not use the mobile platform, and neither does ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ. Still, unless there's some illumination of these technical quirks, I'm not going to block ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ based on your technical and behavioral comments. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Bbb23 I'm about to do my morning exercises (!)--how about this, 70.54.75.24 ? Drmies (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- One, two, three, four, two, two, three, four, up, down ... How conscientious of you! Do you listen to rap while exorcising those middle-aged demons?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Look, it's for old people, and usually we count down to how many more painful squats and stuff. Drmies (talk) 15:58, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Another user just filed a report on ਰਾਜ ਪਾਲ.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hello you two. The SPI has been updated.-- Ponyo 16:14, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK Ponyo--I see. I should just make a habit of checking ranges, really. I think I didn't because in that long list of IPs there was only one with "multiples", and that was not one with another sock; I figured that a prolific sock wouldn't show such a long list of "single" IPs. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) When there are so many ranges it seems like a fruitless time-wasting chore running checks on all of them. In this case, I only checked a single targeted range that I knew had overlap with one specific Srimonbanik2007 sock and got lucky.-- Ponyo 17:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Great, in honor of my "vindication", I will celebrate by creating a much more rewarding exercise program for your consideration. First, pick a restaurant you love, especially if the menu has mostly rich dishes. Second, if needed, make a reservation at the restaurant while doing jumping jacks. Third, walk briskly to the restaurant if it is within a mile of your home; if not, drive to about a mile from the restaurant before walking the final mile. Fourth, order as much food as possible and eat as quickly as possible (not a good idea for the brain to get a chance to react before you're done enjoying your feast - this shouldn't be too hard because the brain slows down after un certain âge). Finally, pay for the meal with a large tip (I find paying for meals burns a lot of calories, YMMV). It may take a while for this proven dietary system to work. I recommend continuing the system until it works or you find you can't move at all. Bon courage and bon appétit! --Bbb23 (talk) 17:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry Bbb couldn't hear you, was munching on M&Ms. Drmies (talk) 17:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Generally, I'm a snob and only like high-class pastries, but I have a weakness for M&Ms, better M&M peanuts, best M&M almonds. Very healthy.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Bbb23 You ever tried the crunchy or brownie M&M's? Put me in heaven for those... they're my favorite. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 18:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Generally, I'm a snob and only like high-class pastries, but I have a weakness for M&Ms, better M&M peanuts, best M&M almonds. Very healthy.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Have you tried bench pressing at the gym? I know it increases weight, but my brother does it and he's really improved his eating. I remember he used to grab handful upon handfuls of chips every time we would eat and put three scoops of ice cream. Now he's not eating as much. He's pressing 250, and seeing him flex his muscles just make me feel a little sick to my stomach. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:31, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @NoobThreePointOh Chips (or crisps, come to that) with three scoops of ice-cream added also induce feelings of nausea. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 09:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Timtrent Blegh. Now THAT is a weird combination. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 10:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @NoobThreePointOh But your friend did that, ^^^^^^ 🤡 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 11:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Timtrent Blegh. Now THAT is a weird combination. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 10:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @NoobThreePointOh Chips (or crisps, come to that) with three scoops of ice-cream added also induce feelings of nausea. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 09:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry Bbb couldn't hear you, was munching on M&Ms. Drmies (talk) 17:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK Ponyo--I see. I should just make a habit of checking ranges, really. I think I didn't because in that long list of IPs there was only one with "multiples", and that was not one with another sock; I figured that a prolific sock wouldn't show such a long list of "single" IPs. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hello you two. The SPI has been updated.-- Ponyo 16:14, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- One, two, three, four, two, two, three, four, up, down ... How conscientious of you! Do you listen to rap while exorcising those middle-aged demons?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
It is sad the scammers cause so much collateral damage
Thank you for your thoughtful handling of the victim's username block. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 15:59, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- No, thank you: I'm really the bad guy here, placing the second block, but I felt like it had to be handled now. You're the one pouring oil on the water and I appreciate it. Yes, we've both seen it: people pay good money (albeit not with the best of intentions) and they get shafted by these con men. Drmies (talk) 16:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am pretty certain we will see the scammer pop up again as a sock. I'm unsure how to detect that, though. Your admin goggles may see sufficiently well to do that. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 16:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's possible, but not yet: you prompted me to have a look, but the IPs they're on have not been active. It is prime UPE territory, that's a fact. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well, they have a new user name, as I am sure you can see should you choose. They failed to do that well, and thus remain blocked. I just fired the big gun of "For heavens sake behave properly" at them since they almost listen to me. Militant kindness may yet win the day! 😈😇 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 08:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's possible, but not yet: you prompted me to have a look, but the IPs they're on have not been active. It is prime UPE territory, that's a fact. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am pretty certain we will see the scammer pop up again as a sock. I'm unsure how to detect that, though. Your admin goggles may see sufficiently well to do that. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 16:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
ARBPIA welcome
I noticed your welcome here, and wanted to let you know that I put together {{welcome-arbpia}} for just such a circumstance. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey thanks! Drmies (talk) 17:29, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Sock; check out
1. User:MaartenEdieg who joined in less than a day, created a talk page reading WenguiGuo#WashingtonFarm The Kwok scam only pits the ants Guo Wengui touted things to the sky all day long, from farms to Xi Yuan, he declared, "Xi Yuan's encryption capabilities and future payments, as well as the future exchange with the US dollar, will create history, is the only stablecoin, floating, modern crypto financial platform." The ant help to fool the head, but after dozens of broken promises....
These are the diffs and was blanked here.
2. User:LigonJudd who joined almost the same time did the same here, and after a welcome message blanked the talk page as usual. To show they aren't here to build an Encyclopedia, they recreated it on same TP here until they got a warning by Viewmont Viking here. After the warning, they blanked it again. This same user created a sandbox here of same content.
3. There comes User:ColbyIjazvHtE who joined at same time with the rest and created this sandbox with the same content.Safari Scribe 16:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- As if this Misplaced Pages session wasn't already weird enough. Thanks; I got them. Drmies (talk) 19:22, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Aight. Thanks for taking care of that, I know I could rely on you. But taken a look at this. It's unfair that I came to de-orphan, and you've taken the bull already. 😂 Safari Scribe 00:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- I did that to mess with you. No, I'm joking--we get paid for blocks, not for de-orphaning. Drmies (talk) 00:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Take care and if you feel bored in "blocking", you may join the holy work of de-orphaning. The backlog is really high. Safari Scribe 01:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ha, between that and drafts and SPI and Misplaced Pages:Copyright problems we could clone ourselves a dozen times and not run out of work. Drmies (talk) 01:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's well. I am feeling sleepy yet I can't sleep. I am going back to my newly acquired complaint manager. You can also help join there and clear your thoughts. Try it and thank me later. :) Safari Scribe 01:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ha, between that and drafts and SPI and Misplaced Pages:Copyright problems we could clone ourselves a dozen times and not run out of work. Drmies (talk) 01:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Take care and if you feel bored in "blocking", you may join the holy work of de-orphaning. The backlog is really high. Safari Scribe 01:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- I did that to mess with you. No, I'm joking--we get paid for blocks, not for de-orphaning. Drmies (talk) 00:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Aight. Thanks for taking care of that, I know I could rely on you. But taken a look at this. It's unfair that I came to de-orphan, and you've taken the bull already. 😂 Safari Scribe 00:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Edit warrior at Society for Occupational Health Psychology
What to do about it? Look in talk and edit history. They're unwilling to accept consensus, wouldn't start their own RFC, and just continue to edit war outside 3RR. Graywalls (talk) 12:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
LTA trolling, etc.
Hi doc. Long time, no see. Hope all is well. We got this account KockMasterM. Their only two edits are reverts of my edits using false edit summaries. Looks like LTA trolling. Reported at UAA but just in case. Thanks. Dr. K. 13:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)