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Denmark's link is wrong

The entry on this page for Denmark links to the page for Metropolitan Denmark, although it should link to the Kingdom of Denmark article. MossW268 (talk) 20:44, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

I agree. The sovereign state is the Kingdom. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 22:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

I've changed it. The link now points to the Kingdom, not the constituent country. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 20:50, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Alphabetisation of the Koreas

I've noticed that North and South Korea have been alphabetised as "North Korea" and "South Korea", not "Korea, North" and "Korea, South". This goes against the results of a prior discussion where it was decided that, since they're not officially called North and South Korea, they should be listed as starting with "K". I think they should be changed accordingly. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 12:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:List_of_sovereign_states/Archive_15#Koreas_and_Congos As of this discussion around two years ago, the status quo seemed to be to have the Koreas listed under "K". I can't find when it was changed since then. Horse Eye's Back, would you mind explaining why you reverted my edit? It seemed to be the best thing to keep the article consistent (especially with the two Congos) and (unless there's something I've missed) it was the most recently agreed upon consensus. But if I was too eager, I apologise. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 17:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

What you do is change the {{sortname}} of the table cell, but not the name actually displayed. Remsense 17:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
I agree with Remsense, sort them differently but don't change the order of the name Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thanks.

One question, though, here's the code for the DRC: |<span id="Democratic Republic of the Congo"></span>'''{{flag|Democratic Republic of the Congo|name=Congo, Democratic Republic of the}}'''

And here's my code for North Korea: |<span id="North Korea"></span>'''{{flag|North Korea|name=Korea, North}}'''

And the other entries that are sorted differently to their name have the same syntax. Is there some hidden difference between these two that I'm not aware of, or are they actually the same? TheLegendofGanon (talk) 18:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I think I'm a bit out of my depth here. I'm not sure how to change the sort name without changing the actual name. I'd appreciate someone else having a look at it. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 20:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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at the top of the table Afghanistan is officially the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and should be changed to Afghanistan - Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Sobble432536 (talk) 11:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

 Question: why do you want to change the common name? M.Bitton (talk) 22:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
I think the request is to add the formal name. However, as it is not clear WHICH formal name should be applied, I support the current solution of not listing one. PianoDan (talk) 23:04, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. M.Bitton (talk) 16:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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X=A de facto independent state, recognised by Russia, Nicaragua, Nauru, Syria, Venezuela, Abkhazia, and Transnistria. Claimed in whole by Georgia as the Provisional Administration of South Ossetia. Y=A de facto independent state, recognised by Russia, Nicaragua, Nauru, Syria, Venezuela, Abkhazia, Transnistria and Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. Claimed in whole by Georgia as the Provisional Administration of South Ossetia. Sahrawi recognise South Ossetia. 80.4.77.150 (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done Charliehdb (talk) 10:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
You did it for Abkhazia. Not South Ossetia. Sahrawi doesn't recognise Abkhazia. They only recognise South Ossetia. 80.4.77.150 (talk) 12:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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X=For Abkhazia: Recognised by Russia, Nicaragua, Nauru, Syria, Venezuela, Abkhazia, Transnistria and Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. For South Ossetia: recognised by Russia, Nicaragua, Nauru, Syria, Venezuela, Abkhazia, and Transnistria. Y=For Abkhazia: Recognised by Russia, Nicaragua, Nauru, Syria, Venezuela, Abkhazia and Transnistria. For South Ossetia: recognised by Russia, Nicaragua, Nauru, Syria, Venezuela, Abkhazia, Transnistria and Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. 80.4.77.150 (talk) 15:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 17:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
It says Sahrawi recognises Abkhazia when they don't. They recognise South Ossetia. 80.4.77.150 (talk) 18:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Do you have reliable sources supporting this statement? Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 18:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
https://eurasianet.org/semi-recognized-western-sahara-to-recognize-south-ossetia 80.4.77.150 (talk) 19:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 Done ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 08:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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