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Hey Nikkimaria, if I may ask, what was your reasoning for removing the mention of the Tornado outbreak of April 12, 1945 in your condensing edit? Since there is no edit summary explanation, I thought it best to ask here.
The section removed was in the death section with the following text:
"Coincidentally, on April 12, 1945, a devastating tornado outbreak occurred in the United States, which killed 128 people and injured over a thousand others. The tornado outbreak included the fourth deadliest tornado in Oklahoma history, which leveled a third of the town of Antlers. Roosevelt's death overshadowed what would have "commanded national media attention" for a while. Tornado expert Thomas P. Grazulis said that, "even nearby newspapers had more information on the death of the President than on the tornado".
I will note, even the U.S. government acknowledged his death overshadowing the tornado (2nd source).
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- ^ Grazulis, Thomas P. (July 1993). Significant Tornadoes, 1680–1991: A Chronology and Analysis of Events. St. Johnsbury, Vermont: The Tornado Project of Environmental Films. p. 919. ISBN 1-879362-03-1.
- "Top Ten Deadliest Oklahoma Tornadoes (1882-Present)". National Weather Service in Norman, Oklahoma. Archived from the original on August 14, 2023. Retrieved August 14, 2023.
The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Weather Event Writer, this mention is important to the article on the subject of the tornado outbreak, but it's not particularly so for this article. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:36, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- If I may ask, why do you think it is not important to even mention? It was a circumstance that occurred at the same time as his death and it is documented that his death directly overshadowed one of the worst disasters in Oklahoma history. Obviously not the same magnitude or scale, but imagine if a death of a U.S. president overshadowed Hurricane Katrina's media coverage. To me, that at least warrants a mention (not much, just those few sentences) since his death resulted in something that RS cover fairly well. I would love to hear your thoughts on this though. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Historians do not mention the tornado episode in their biographies. It has its own page Tornado outbreak of April 12, 1945 & goes on the 1945 page. Rjensen (talk) 03:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- (Respectful comment) – So, biographies dictate what goes in this article? Publications in academic sources, non-biography books, or publications from the U.S. government cannot be sources in the article? Just asking, because that is the sources directly linking his death being the overshadow for the outbreak. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's an oversimplification; those types of sources most definitely could be used. The issue here is that the tornado isn't relevant to FDR himself. It's not like he perished in that. You'd be better off placing the overshadow bit in the tornado's page instead. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Well I'll continue to disagree, but I see that consensus says to keep it out of the article. Guess that solves that. Cheers y'all! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 04:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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February 4, 1932 as governor of New York, Franklin D. Roosevelt opened the 1932 Winter Olympics, nine months before he would be elected president of the United States.
The information is on this site:
https://en.wikipedia.org/1932_Winter_Olympics 80.65.68.66 (talk) 02:59, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know whether this is worth mentioning on FDR's bio page, but either way we can't use other Misplaced Pages articles as citations per WP:CIRCULAR. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Which mom?
"In 1903, Franklin proposed to Eleanor. Following resistance from Roosevelt's mother, Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt were married on March 17, 1905."
They both had the same last name, so it's unclear who's mother resisted the marriage. 50.202.229.150 (talk) 16:13, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- This meant Sara, and I've changed "Roosevelt's" to "his" accordingly. It would be impossible for that to be Anna when she already had died long before the couple got together. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
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There should be two 's in the name throughout; currently, there is one instance (in the sidebar) where it's misspelled as . Abrenner2 (talk) 20:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for noticing that! Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 21:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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Change: “ The attack on Pearl Harbor raised concerns among the public regarding the possibility of sabotage by Japanese Americans. This suspicion was fed by long-standing racism against Japanese immigrants, as well as the findings of the Roberts Commission, which concluded that the attack on Pearl Harbor had been assisted by Japanese spies.”
To: “…This suspicion was fed by long-standing racism against Japanese immigrants. Though there was no evidence in the Robert’s Commission, established to investigate the attack on Pearl Harbor, to support media speculation and racist, anti-Japanese political rhetoric from politicians like California Governor Cubert L. Olson, the Commission report was co-opted to falsely legitimize anti-Japanese sentiment and racial oppression.” VAGRANTPLATYPUS (talk) 09:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Seems like a drastic tone change that will definitely be controversial. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 09:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Wrong name
I can’t change it but in the marriage section of the page it says princess Märtha of Norway when it links to and should be princess Märtha of Sweden Varst912 (talk) 18:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for commenting. I looked this up, and in the source cited, Franklin and Eleanor: An Extraordinary Marriage author Hazel Rowley says she was Norwegian. I think the link will take you to page 242, where she is first mentioned. YoPienso (talk) 03:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I looked into this a little more and from I can tell we’re both half-right she was born in to the Swedish royal family and married into the Norwegian royal family Varst912 (talk) 19:09, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- But yes the title is correct in the article and doesn’t need change Varst912 (talk) 19:10, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, I see the confusion. Thanks for getting back with me. I see this has been debated at her bio. Cheers! YoPienso (talk) 15:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Polio survivors category
Snuggums, I don't understand why you removed the polio survivors category from the article. There are some 200 articles in the category. FDR didn't die of it; he survived it. You do get cured of polio--it's an illness, a virus, that produces headaches, fever, and general misery during its short course. It leaves some patients weakened and/or paralyzed in varying degrees. Am I missing something? YoPienso (talk) 20:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oh yes, and some patients don't survive polio. They die.
YoPienso (talk) 20:50, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- In case this wasn't already clear, I removed because from as far as I know, there isn't any evidence FDR got cured of polio. The page certainly doesn't cite anything that suggests he did, and we would need to implement that for the category to be warranted. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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