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Happy First Edit Day!

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Hi Alison! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:35, 16 February 2024 (UTC) 		Party popper emoji

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Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

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Re: A History of English Food‎

Thanks for fixing the link to Irish potato famine. When I did the review back in April, this stuck out to me, but I wasn't certain if I should have requested a change. Is the reasoning simply that it's an older, non-inclusive term that has fallen out of use, or is there another reason? Viriditas (talk) 23:48, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Hi there! It's complicated, but let me see if I can summarise. Firstly, it's never referred to as the "Irish Potato Famine" in Ireland, or the "Potato Famine" - it's The Great Famine, the Great Hunger, or An Gorta Mór / An Drochshaol in Irish. The potato term seems to have been popularised in the US, for some reason, but it's far from universal. As the page says, the proximate cause was potato blight, but reality is more nuanced. There's the fact that it was largely a monoculture due to circumstances where absentee landlordism, colonialism and the last vestiges of thePenal Laws meant that families had little alternative to feed themselves. When the crops failed, the British government initially provided some aid but that eventually dried up - partly due to Charles Trevelyan's belief that this was a just punishment on the Irish for their perceived laziness. As the population of Ireland dropped from around 8m to 4m in just over five years, many today consider this a deliberate genocide (I disagree). Thus, the term "Irish Potato Famine" can be seen as a whitewash to some, and a way of blaming the people themselves for their fate, when reality was far more complex. And frankly, I'd rather defer to the people themselves to determine the name of the event - Alison 02:09, 27 July 2024 (UTC) (disclaimer - I'm Irish-born)
  • Here's a quote from Thomas Robert Malthus;

“The land in Ireland is infinitely more peopled than in England; and to give full effect to the natural resources of the country, a great part of the population should be swept from the soil.”

  • And one from Trevelyan himself;

“The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people.”

  • - Alison 02:16, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Thank you for the education. It's strange that we still use the term "potato famine" in the US when more than six million emigrated here over a larger period of time. You would think they would try and change it in the school books. Anyway, I appreciate your help. One other thing that's bothering me: I made a comment about Dún Briste last week here. Any idea about this? Viriditas (talk) 08:47, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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    • Thank you for explaining, Alison, and - at least for me - it's not a waste of time. --