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This is little more than a list of data. Needs major prose expansion. Could be more like Bombing of Darwin, February 19, 1942 or Belfast Blitz. LordAmeth 09:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Question on scope

Should this article include the overflights of Australian east coast cities by Japanese submarine-based float planes during 1942 and 1943? Dates and references for these overflights are easily available in the Axis naval activity in Australian waters article. --Nick Dowling 06:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

My feeling is that since they were reconnaissance flights rather than offensive operations (i.e. "raids") they are better dealt with in the naval activity article. Grant | Talk 06:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, that sounds good to me. Do we know whether this article excludes reconnaissance flights over northern Australia? --Nick Dowling 06:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not 100%, but I doubt there are any. I mean I'm aware of some other purely reconnaissance flights that aren't listed here, such as the one over Broome before the first air raid there. I think we should weed them out if we find them. Grant | Talk 06:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. --Nick Dowling 07:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Raid on Cairns

I've removed the reference to Cairns being attacks as this isn't supported on the AWM website or in the RAAF official histories. While it is referenced at the Oz@War website, this site has limited quality control and I don't think that it should be considered a reliable source by itself. --Nick Dowling 10:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Northern Territory defence

I've just removed the following text from Military history of Australia during World War II. It might one day be suitable for inclusion in this article, or a related article. --Nick Dowling 07:01, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Following the bombing of Darwin on 19 February 1942, an initial response was to create dispersed airstrips down the main road. In order southward were the airfields known as:

Sattler
Strauss
Hughes
Livingstone

Just north of Adelaide River were:

Coomalie
Pell
Batchelor
Gould

with Adelaide River being a headquarters, communications, stores, hospital, ammunition and war graves centre. South of it were airfields:

Fenton
Long
McDonald

and the Brocks Creek Bulk Issue Petrol and Oil Depot (BIPOD).

Katherine had a major hospital and was a railway headquarters. In addition to the "old airport" (located near the hospital towards the town center; target of at least one bombing raid), Katherine had satellite airfields to its south:

Tindal (bomber base)
Munbulloo (also a major military abattoir)
Venn

A good suggestion. Each of these strips would be worthy of articles, I think, especially given the historical significance. Grant | Talk 12:48, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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Some stats

There are 113 raids (or attacks) on the list; 83 NT, 18 WA, 12 Qld. Some of the 113 are 2+ locations.

There are 53 for Darwin (incl 1 Parap, 1 Vesteys).

Not counted in the 53; from Darwin (by air); Fenton Airfield (Long) 140km, Batchelor Airfield 70km, Coomalie Creek Airfield 70km, Pell Airfield 80km, Hughes 40km, Livingstone 40km.

MBG02 (talk) 16:15, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for tantalizing article

Knowing next to nothing about Australia but somewhat acquainted with Pacific War, the following questions that crossed my mind: (1) What was the greatest "penetration" (e.g. southernmost point attacked)? (2) Were the raids launched from Rabaul, or from Lae? Bombers from Rabaul & fighter cover from Lae & Salamaua? Coming from Lae, how much flying time did they have (left in their gas tanks) over Australia? (3) What units did the Japanese raiders belong to? (4) During this period, were there any changes in Australian command structure that resulted in a different response to the attacks? It would be nice if a brief statement about (1) were included in the lede or, possibly, to have a "Scope of attacks" section, maybe even the first section after the lede. I remember reading Saburō Sakai's book, in which he talks of the many raids on Port Moresby; but I can't remember if he ever overflew Australia. For the interest of readers from USA, it would be interesting to know the extent of Douglas MacArthur's involvement in planning the response, even if none; as a man given to grandiose statements, did he have anything to say about once he arrived in Australia? According to Douglas MacArthur's escape from the Philippines, he arrived in Darwin the middle of a Japanese raid on 17 March, forcing his flight to land at Batchelor Airfield. Fascinating subject. Thanks to all who have worked on this page. Vagabond nanoda (talk) 05:48, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

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It has been proposed in this section that Japanese air raids on Australia be renamed and moved to Air raids on Australia.

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Air raids on Australia, 1942–1943 → Air raids on Australia – There was only one, see "Air raids on Japan" as format. Gryffindor (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe 19:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Support This seems totally sensible. Nick-D (talk) 07:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Move to 1942–1943 Australia air raids per WP:NCWWW, as I initially commented on the technical request. Bensci54 (talk) 16:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I want to get a consensus on whether to move to one of the following; Air raids on Australia or 1942–1943 Australia air raids. Safari Scribe 19:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment. Japanese air raids on Australia seems most natural to me, but otherwise would support air raids on Australia. I T B F 💬 13:48, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relist to try to get a clear consensus for one of the three proposed options BilledMammal (talk) 23:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I think it would be a mistake to make it only Air raids on Australia . It is too general, even if this only happene din WW2. I prefer Japanese air raids on Australia if you want it to be more general. I think it is good to show the years it happened. Japanese air raids on Australia in WW2. If we say WW2, we don't say specific years but people know it was in WW2 and not confused. O.maximov (talk) 07:29, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

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