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Ofer Winter
A non-extended-confirmed editor (User:Dag21902190) has disputed my revert (on the basis of WP:PIA) of their changes at Ofer Winter. I see the need for updates but will not undo my revert due to other issues with the edits. I don't have the bandwidth to address this, and am therefore notifying the project. See discussion at User talk:Valereee#Non-XC edits re: Arab–Israeli conflict. Thanks, Wracking 20:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Also, I encourage further discussion (if there is any) to occur here or at Talk:Ofer Winter to avoid bugging Valereee. Thanks, Wracking 20:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza#Requested move 3 May 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza#Requested move 3 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. The section is "Three options".
FortunateSons (talk) 10:28, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Feedback: Regional history of the Negev
Hi,
User:Alaexis has asked me to draft something on the agricultural history of the Negev. Since there is no comprehensive history of the Negev that would have been necessary for this (and since the short sections on the history on the Negev page do not align with current research), I have now drafted a regional history of the Negev with a stronger focus on land use. Alexis thinks the page is ready for promotion to the mainspace. I am unsure for two reasons which are noted on the draft page. Would anyone like to give some feedback on this? DaWalda (talk) 13:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Shakshouka has an RfC
Shakshouka has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 22:02, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style
You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style#"Modern-day Israel" vs. "Palestine" when only for reader geographical reference, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Kinsio (talk ★ contribs) 15:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Army Radio#Requested move 14 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Army Radio#Requested move 14 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • 22:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
An RFC of interest
Please see Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#RFC - Gaza Health Ministry qualifier. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight
There are two discussion occurring at Talk:1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight#Haifa and Talk:1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight#Unconditional surrender at Haifa: gross misrepresentation discussing whether the article should be edited to further cover the opinions of Benny Morris. Editors are invited to participate. TarnishedPath 06:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
An RFC of interest
Please see Talk:List of genocides#RFC - Inclusion of Gaza genocide. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:49, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Ascalon#Requested move 20 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Ascalon#Requested move 20 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. --Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 24 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 24 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe 00:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Calls for the destruction of Israel#Requested move 31 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Calls for the destruction of Israel#Requested move 31 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 10:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:2024 Haret Hreik airstrike#Requested move 30 July 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Haret Hreik airstrike#Requested move 30 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 10:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Zana ambush
In the new page feed I came across the Zana ambush, which is orphaned, there are mention in the news about ambushes, but I don't understand what makes this different, unique out side of the main articles. Is the article really needed? What are other peoples thoughts on it? Govvy (talk) 10:30, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion that may be of interest to those here
There is a discussion here about moving Politicization of Middle Eastern food to Israeli appropriation of Arab cuisine. Valereee (talk) 12:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
List of Israeli Ashkenazi Jews
I noticed that Misplaced Pages has articles on List of Israeli Ashkenazi Jews and a List of Israeli Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews.
The division of Jewish people into separate lists based on whether they are Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, or Sephardi feels outdated, racist and unnecessarily divisive. In Israel, many people come from mixed backgrounds and do not fit neatly into these categories. Highlighting someone's Ashkenazi or Mizrahi origin as though it is a defining characteristic seems reductive and potentially harmful.
For example, listing someone like Gilad Shalit in the list of Ashkenazi Jews does nothing to enhance our understanding of who he is. It's not relevant to the broader picture of his life in any way. Moreover, by creating and maintaining these separate lists, we risk reinforcing racial divisions that don't serve any meaningful purpose and may, in fact, perpetuate harmful stereotypes.
Instead of maintaining these distinctions, it would be more appropriate to merge the lists into a single "List of Israeli Jews", and if the article becomes too long, break it down based on another category. Whizkin (talk) 20:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, I also noticed that for the majority of people on these lists, there is no citation showing that the ethnic origin of the person is as claimed, which could be a violation of biographies of living persons and other policies . I strongly think we need to reconsider the existence of these lists or at the very least, ensure proper sourcing for any claims made about individuals' ethnic origins. Whizkin (talk) 20:16, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I personally would delete them as pointless in the context of them containing (between them) over 70% of the population. It's like having a list of white British people. Number 57 23:43, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will happily support any request for deletion for these lists DGtal (talk) 06:21, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Number 57 / @DGtal Thank you for your reply. Could one of you assist me with starting a deletion procedure? Whizkin (talk) 19:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will happily support any request for deletion for these lists DGtal (talk) 06:21, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I personally would delete them as pointless in the context of them containing (between them) over 70% of the population. It's like having a list of white British people. Number 57 23:43, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see any encyclopaedic value in these lists but some people like having articles like List of Americans of English descent. @Whizkin, please see here how to initiate the deletion Misplaced Pages:Deletion process. Alaexis¿question? 21:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, @Alaexis. I don't think that List of Americans of English descent is exactly equivalent. Ashkenazi and Sephardi are complex and blurry categories linked to family religious traditions going back hundreds of years, and do not always map to precise countries of origin. For example, there are both Ashkenazi and non-Ashkenazi Jews from Georgia. It is not common for reliable sources to mention whether people born in Israel are Ashkenazi or Mizrahi/Sephardi, except for rabbis and other religious personas. Such sources would usually define non-observant Jews, as having ancestry from a specific country, for example, Polish origins. In fact, it can be considered racist or offensive to classify secular people as Ashkenazi or Mizrahi/Sephardi unless they self-identify as one. Whizkin (talk) 22:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ok , that was difficult, but I think I've managed to start it correctly using the "Twinkle" tool ... Let me know if this looks right: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of Israeli Ashkenazi Jews. @Number 57 @DGtal @Alaexis Whizkin (talk) 05:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
RfC at Talk:Herrenvolk democracy
There is currently a discussion concerning whether or not it is appropriate to display the flag of Israel on this article. Experienced editors are invited to join the discussion. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:34, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Palestinian suicide terrorism#Requested move 21 August 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Palestinian suicide terrorism#Requested move 21 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath 08:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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