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in William Shakespeare#London and theatrical career CHANGE:

FROM:

After 1594, Shakespeare's plays were performed only by the Lord Chamberlain's Men, a company owned by a group of players, including Shakespeare, that soon became the leading playing company in London

TO:

After 1594, Shakespeare's plays were performed at The Theatre, in Shoreditch, only by the Lord Chamberlain's Men, a company owned by a group of players, including Shakespeare, that soon became the leading playing company in London

SEE:

The Theatre
Lord Chamberlain's Men#Playhouses

2601:646:201:57F0:303B:BF2D:3A6A:695B (talk) 19:11, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done Geardona (talk to me?) 00:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Move to "Shakespeare"

Consensus against the proposed move – It doesn't seem like a formal WP:RM was actually begun here, but in any case there is clearly a consensus against the proposed change. WP:SNOWCLOSEAza24 (talk) 22:06, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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Shakespeare is a name associated with William, arguably the best to ever do it in multiple realms. Several writers of the same era, and previous ones, with a less known body of work, only have 1 name on their articles. The redirect is already his, no (disambiguation). I understand both reasons against and in support, just want to test the waters to see where we stand on this. It seems a reasonable move:


Support move to Shakespeare, the article subject is consistently refered to as such-and was during his time.

Wikisempra (talk) 12:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose - Assuming I’ve correctly understood the proposal as; rename the “William Shakespeare” article as “Shakespeare”. His name was William Shakespeare, and if you’re thinking about ease for readers, “Shakespeare” already redirects here, as you say. You suggest there are other authors whose pages follow the proposed approach. Could you give a couple of examples? That might help me better understand your thinking. KJP1 (talk) 16:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Homer? Jahwist? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Yes, some Ancient Greeks came to mind. But the proposer suggests there are writers broadly contemporary to Shakespeare where this approach is followed. KJP1 (talk) 17:19, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Oppose. Per WP:MONONYM: "Using the last name as the page title for a person, when the first name is also known and used, is discouraged, even if that name would be unambiguous, and even if it consists of more than one word. Unambiguous last names are usually redirects: for example, Ludwig van Beethoven is the title of an article, while Van Beethoven and Beethoven redirect to that article." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:02, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Oppose. The proposition is frankly silly, and scales very badly. Ceoil (talk) 21:04, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Potential confusion with the politician John Shakespeare, and the actor Edmund Shakespeare. Dimadick (talk) 09:05, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Oppose per KJP, a well intentioned but silly proposition. Ceoil (talk) 09:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Oppose too, per Gråbergs Gråa Sång. AndyJones (talk) 12:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
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friennd, correct typo

friennd, correct typo 2A02:8308:30F:5200:E0A8:37B5:A39:3616 (talk) 17:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

100% 2A02:8308:30F:5200:4D1A:820:CCA6:B153 (talk) 17:41, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Done, thanks for noticing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:43, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Theory of Shakespeare tragedy

Ac Bradley 2409:40C1:5E:EFA6:8E4:8AFF:FEEC:4F00 (talk) 12:49, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Try again? My mind-reading failed, though I guess it's about the article's mention of A. C. Bradley. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:57, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Now there’s a name to conjure with. Bradley used to be the bible when I was at school, and I’ve still got a copy of Shakespearean Tragedy on my shelves. But I don’t think he’s much rated now? As to what the IP is suggesting, I’m as clueless as you. KJP1 (talk) 16:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Yes, there's a poem, isn't there, involving famous writers taking exams upon their own works, and containing the lines:
Shakespeare did badly,
Having not studied his Bradley.
Or similar? AndyJones (talk) 12:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

William Shakespeare

A famous poeter or author or writer 2409:408D:3E0C:721:0:0:8E8A:1B13 (talk) 13:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

You are not making yourself understood. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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