This is an old revision of this page, as edited by The Nookster (talk | contribs) at 09:31, 22 September 2024 (→Short Decent Stubs: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.
Revision as of 09:31, 22 September 2024 by The Nookster (talk | contribs) (→Short Decent Stubs: new section)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)| This is PamD's talk page, where you can send her messages and comments. |
|
Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16Auto-archiving period: 31 days  |
|
Please click "New section" or "Add" above to leave any new message, and please sign your message (just type ~~~~).
If you leave a message here, I will reply here, to make discussions easier to read. If you really want me to reply elsewhere, tell me a very good reason why I should do so.
If you reply to a message here, please indent (start the line with ":") and sign your message.
If you are discussing any particular page, please provide a link to it - it makes life easier for me and anyone else seeing this page.
 Archives |
|
|
This page has archives. Sections older than 31 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III. |
Welcome to the drive!
Welcome, welcome, welcome PamD! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.
Fix a random page lacking sourcesCactiStaccingCrane (talk)15:39, 2 February 2024 UTC via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)Note for Talk Page Watchers: this is about edits to Lizzi Collinge and Louise Pryor.
Hi PamD. LinkedIn is not ok. It is non-rs and you keep using as though it is a valid secondary source. Its not. It a social media site and anything written by the person himself is WP:PRIMARY. scope_creep 08:05, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- It should never be used in any WP:BLP in any instance. It a really poor choice to construct an article. scope_creep 08:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Scope creep The chain of links from WP:PRIMARY led me to WP:SELFPUB, which I read as allowing use of the subject's own LinkedIn page for simple hard facts like studies and previous employment, though it would not be used to establish notability. PamD 11:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- To be more precise: WP:ABOUTSELF. PamD 11:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Your rationalising it. I don't understand why those folk, wikipedia editor states such nonsense as though its valid. It shows a level of earnestness, ignorance and to a certain extent innocence that is not reflected in reality. Folk lie through their teeth all the time, particularly on social media sites. Their whole psychology is bent out of shape and that alters their perception leading them down paths in any other situation wouldn't happen. That is a known fact. Not a single line text is valid source. Even about a month and a half, two months ago there was a report in the times about folk on LinkedIn using AI to jack up their profiles. It so predominant and so widespread the site doesn't know what to do about it. I would sincerely like you not to use it. All its doing is adding work that needs to fixed later by somebody else, damaging the article in the short term and lowering the quality of the article in the present. If this was a new editor I would have moved that article to draft. It is a really poor choice. scope_creep
- @Scope creep: I don't know what you mean by "rationalising". I am following the policy set out at WP:ABOUTSELF. I do not believe that it damages the quality of an article about an MP or a highly-regarded actuary, to WP:AGF and use their own LinkedIn page for checkable statements about their academic degrees and past employment. People in positions like that have too much to lose to consider "jacking up their profiles". We're not talking about some wannabe startup entrepreneur who might be tempted to inflate their profile. PamD 14:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Your comment above, is what rationalising means. I'm not talking about some entrepreneur. The evidence is clear is day on this, even with people in power and if you looked, you'd find it. It happens all the time, and you can't mame an objective decision based on it, because you don't who is lying and who is not, until they are discovered (that is the real source, because its secondary). The whole thing is entirely subjective. Its the human condition, yet your rationalising it, that its somehow ok because the policy says so, even when its written by people who don't have a clue about it and honestly don't care. Using social media in this manner is one the biggest burden on Misplaced Pages editors time, to clean these article up. scope_creep 15:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please do not continue to "clean up" my policy-based edits. You have your opinions, but WP:ABOUTSELF is policy. Removing content without policy-based reason is disruptive editing. PamD 15:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Your comment above, is what rationalising means. I'm not talking about some entrepreneur. The evidence is clear is day on this, even with people in power and if you looked, you'd find it. It happens all the time, and you can't mame an objective decision based on it, because you don't who is lying and who is not, until they are discovered (that is the real source, because its secondary). The whole thing is entirely subjective. Its the human condition, yet your rationalising it, that its somehow ok because the policy says so, even when its written by people who don't have a clue about it and honestly don't care. Using social media in this manner is one the biggest burden on Misplaced Pages editors time, to clean these article up. scope_creep 15:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Scope creep: I don't know what you mean by "rationalising". I am following the policy set out at WP:ABOUTSELF. I do not believe that it damages the quality of an article about an MP or a highly-regarded actuary, to WP:AGF and use their own LinkedIn page for checkable statements about their academic degrees and past employment. People in positions like that have too much to lose to consider "jacking up their profiles". We're not talking about some wannabe startup entrepreneur who might be tempted to inflate their profile. PamD 14:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Your rationalising it. I don't understand why those folk, wikipedia editor states such nonsense as though its valid. It shows a level of earnestness, ignorance and to a certain extent innocence that is not reflected in reality. Folk lie through their teeth all the time, particularly on social media sites. Their whole psychology is bent out of shape and that alters their perception leading them down paths in any other situation wouldn't happen. That is a known fact. Not a single line text is valid source. Even about a month and a half, two months ago there was a report in the times about folk on LinkedIn using AI to jack up their profiles. It so predominant and so widespread the site doesn't know what to do about it. I would sincerely like you not to use it. All its doing is adding work that needs to fixed later by somebody else, damaging the article in the short term and lowering the quality of the article in the present. If this was a new editor I would have moved that article to draft. It is a really poor choice. scope_creep
- To be more precise: WP:ABOUTSELF. PamD 11:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Scope creep The chain of links from WP:PRIMARY led me to WP:SELFPUB, which I read as allowing use of the subject's own LinkedIn page for simple hard facts like studies and previous employment, though it would not be used to establish notability. PamD 11:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- It should never be used in any WP:BLP in any instance. It a really poor choice to construct an article. scope_creep 08:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Barnstar
|
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | |
| I was reading an article from quora which says Senior Misplaced Pages editors are unwelcoming and hateful which you proved wrong. Thanks you very much for going extra mile to edit and adjust the pages I created and for your constructive comments on how to continue on Misplaced Pages. Much love!!!Amistkilo (talk) 13:08, 22 August 2024 (UTC) |
- Thank you @Amistkilo: I try to be helpful. (But please don't forget to fix that second sentence of Scott Zeron which doesn't yet make sense!) PamD 13:13, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I will fix it. Thanks you! Amistkilo (talk) 13:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
New pages patrol September 2024 Backlog drive
| New pages patrol | September 2024 Backlog Drive |  |
| |
| You're receiving this message because you are a new page patroller. To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. | |
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
September 2024 at Women in Red
Online events:
Announcements from other communities
Tip of the month:
Other ways to participate:
|
--Rosiestep (talk) 19:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging
a barnstar for you!
|
Women in Red Translation Contest |
| Thank you for your additions August 2024 --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC) |
Mayor of London
It's not just WP that puts "Mayor" in lower case when preceded by a modifier: go to google.com and search for site:thetimes.com "former mayor of london", or theguardian.com, which provides similar results. Happy editing! Chris the speller 14:20, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Chris the speller I still think it looks better with "M", but even my favourite style guide uses "m" so it's not a hill I'm bothered about fighting on! We are gloriously inconsistent, even when its not preceded by a modifier - search Misplaced Pages on "mayor London" to see. PamD 15:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 4 September 2024
- News and notes: WikiCup enters final round, MCDC wraps up activities, 17-year-old hoax article unmasked
- Recent research: Simulated Misplaced Pages seen as less credible than ChatGPT and Alexa in experiment
- News from the WMF: Meet the 12 candidates running in the WMF Board of Trustees election
- Wikimania: A month after Wikimania 2024
- Serendipity: What it's like to be Wikimedian of the Year
- Traffic report: After the gold rush
A bowl of strawberries for you!
|
Thank you for helping me with your suggestions to make my articles better. Strawberries are especially sweet in late May/June and again at this time of year. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 09:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC) |
Thank you, @Allthemilescombined1: we enjoyed some just yesterday, though the UK-grown season is coming to an end! Happy to help - and Patti Varol was an interesting read. PamD 10:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 64
The Misplaced Pages Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 64, July – August 2024
- The Hindu Group joins The Misplaced Pages Library
- Wikimania presentation
- New user script for easily searching The Misplaced Pages Library
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Misplaced Pages Library team --16:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
my story
Hi, if you get a chance, could you look at what I wrote on my User Page and tell me if it makes sense, needs more explanation, or is just too corny and needs a serious rewrite? Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 01:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Trinidad and Tobago writers by century
A tag has been placed on Category:Trinidad and Tobago writers by century indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz 04:12, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Short Decent Stubs
Hello @PamDhow are you? I remembered you helped me with my first published page :-) Thank you.
You also said you made short decent stubs of topics and I wondered if there was a video tutorial on how to do this? I get come across lots of useful topics during my writing work but I don't have the time to do full pages.
It is really frustrating! The Nookster (talk) 09:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)