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Change request - Demographics \ Religion

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Change from: 

 The remainder are Christian (mostly Greek Orthodox) and others.

To: 

 The remainder are 1–2.5% Christian (mostly Greek Orthodox), and others.

It's mentioned in the existing ref there. galenIgh 21:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

 Question: don't you think that the readers are capable of working it out all by themselves? M.Bitton (talk) 18:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
No.
I was looking for that info, searching on and reading Misplaced Pages. Took a while to find it by general web searching which lead me to that external site. Then I realized it's a linked reference in this Misplaced Pages article.
In theory people don't need any text in articles, and each Misplaced Pages page can be just a set of external links. But it's customary to have some prose and to summarize relevant information. galenIgh 22:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 Done: This is a helpful clarification to make because if readers are left to their own devices, they may conclude from the data originally presented in the article that it is up to 8% Christian which vastly differs from what is stated in the source. Left guide (talk) 05:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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The text suggests that Basque is a Romance language. It is not. Luisperezcamacho (talk) 12:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: I don't believe that it does. The text refers to Romance languages, including x,y,and z, and some others, including a, b, and c. To me, that reads as "others" means "other languages that are not Romance languages. PianoDan (talk) 20:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Israeli POV

While we should indeed mention the Israeli narrative, things have changed a bit with the 2024 ICJ ruling. Essentially the court has ruled that all these reasons for holding on to the West Bank are without any legal foundation. Before, this was subject of debate but that debate is over for all practical purposes so it needs to be clarified somehow. Selfstudier (talk) 14:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Add the Hebrew name of this area please "Judea and Samaria"

It is missing, and it very important part about this area 147.235.196.127 (talk) 19:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Not done. See WP:WESTBANK. Selfstudier (talk) 20:49, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Legality of occupation

@BarrelProof: : Top UN court says Israeli occupation of West Bank and East Jerusalem is illegal Makeandtoss (talk) 08:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

The BBC source does actually make it clear that the occupation is illegal, so I don't understand that part of the edit summary but there is a problem with "since 1967", at the outset, the occupation itself would not have been illegal but became so with the passage of time (no intent to leave and all the other reasons given in the AO). That part needs fixing up. Selfstudier (talk) 08:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure what part of the edit summary you're referring to, but I agree with you. The sentence in the Misplaced Pages article that I changed said the occupation has been illegal since 1967. The cited source does not say that and the ICJ did not declare that (AFAIK). My edit converted a false statement into a true statement. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 14:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
@Selfstudier: I don't think we need attribution for the ICJ, top authority on international law, in the opening paragraph. A good middle ground would be ".., whose continuation is illegal under international law." Makeandtoss (talk) 07:11, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
I don't mind either way, for me the point is that issue is finally resolved because it is the ICJ. At some point, sources may simply report the illegality as a fact without referring to to the ICJ, do we have any of those yet? Selfstudier (talk) 09:07, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
@Selfstudier: It was reaffirmed in addition to having been resolved, as RS have long described the occupation as having become illegal. Yes, we have at least one: : "In fact, the US moved its embassy to West Jerusalem, despite Israel’s continued illegal occupation of the eastern half of the city, in 2018." Makeandtoss (talk) 11:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Although RS have long described the occupation as illegal and that was a significant view, there were dissenting views. Agreed that no longer matters, just that I would prefer but do not insist on, because it will likely take a little time to sink in, more RS just straight up saying it. One is however sufficient so if you want to do away with the attribution I won't object. Selfstudier (talk) 11:48, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Palestinian flag

Doesn't its inclusion here violate WP:NPOV? Shoshin000 (talk) 08:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

How? Selfstudier (talk) 08:48, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
It's a disputed area, and the State of Palestine is a partially recognized state.
Kashmir for example does not have a huge Pakistani or Indian flag on its page, as it would give an impression of partiality to a reader, thereby undermining the absorption of information. Shoshin000 (talk) 08:51, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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