Talk:List of antisemitic incidents in the United States

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On 28 August 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from List of antisemitic incidents in the United States to List of antisemitic and anti-Jewish incidents in the United States. The result of the discussion was not moved.

2023 Detroit synagogue leader

The media has unfortunately abdicated much of its responsibility and polarized anti-semitic discourse in the last few years. The notion that a rabbi killed in the aftermath of October 7th, when anti-semitic crimes have risen 400% this year, was not a hate crime, is a moral failing that is deeply injurious to Jewish peoples across the country. I suggest this ought to be added https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-charged-murder-death-detroit-synagogue-leader-rcna124908 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:3802:27F3:145E:B896:100:7D20 (talk) 18:32, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

2020 Kenosha synagogue vandalism

I've removed this section for now. Neither the JNS source nor a couple other sources I found after a quick search – Jewish Journal and JTA – explicitly call this an act of anti-Semitism. JJ quotes several tweets by advocacy groups that use that term, but don't call it that themselves. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 07:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Ilhan_Omar#RFC has an RFC

Talk:Ilhan_Omar#RFC has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Benevolent human (talk) 00:41, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

List becoming unwieldy?

If we include every incident of verbal abuse and vandalism, this list will be unending and also overshadow major incidents. I advise we stick to major incidents of violence (including planned terrorist attacks). Open to other proposals. Loksmythe (talk) 15:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

I have reservations about the proposal. I added the arson incident at Congregation Beth Israel in Austin, Texas almost a year after it occurred, and I was surprised it hadn't been added immediately. The perpetrator certainly hoped to burn down the sanctuary, and due to the extensive smoke damage, the congregation was prevented from using it. While this incident might still qualify under your proposed criteria, acts of vandalism directed at synagogues and Jewish institutions such as museums are hate crimes meant to instill fear among Jews everywhere. I am more worried about incidents not being reported. I'm also worried about who gets to decide. A.T.S. in Texas (talk) 16:36, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

@A.T.S. in Texas The Austin synagogue arson would assuredly qualify under the "major incidents" classification. It was meant to be violent, even if no one was hurt, and received widespread and sustained coverage, including in local and national RS, over the course of several years. I'm sure if there are disagreements about what qualifies for inclusion, this talk page would be a proper venue for reasonable discussion. Longhornsg (talk) 22:01, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Agree. Technically, every one of the hundreds of antisemitic incidents (ranging from verbal abuse to violence) with RS coverage (many of them), in addition to US-related incidents mentioned in Antisemitism during the 2023 Israel–Hamas war and the largely unsourced List of attacks on Jewish institutions in the United States would qualify for inclusion here. This could be thousands, most of which are relatively non-notable and don't receive sustained coverage.

Propose we rescope and rename this page to List of antisemitic attacks in the United States and merge in much of the content from List of attacks on Jewish institutions in the United States, to include only incidents that receive more than passing coverage and have a violent or notable aspect to them. Longhornsg (talk) 21:57, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

You need to add the violent Charlottesville, VA march where the white supremacists shouted "the Jews will not replace us"

You need to add the violent Charlottesville, VA march where the white supremacists shouted "the Jews will not replace us 173.166.164.113 (talk) 01:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Concerning incident "April 2024"

Apologies if this is improperly formatted or if I shouldn't comment on potentially restricted subjects, but the description states "A Jewish woman was beaten at the scene." sourced to WP:NATIONALREVIEW unattributed. Furthermore, the video linked in said source is of a man in a white shirt, as reports show in photos, videos, & articles. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 00:05, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I have replaced it with sources from The New York Times and Los Angeles Times. Steven1991 (talk) 13:09, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 28 August 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Bobby Cohn (talk) 01:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

List of antisemitic incidents in the United States → List of antisemitic and anti-Jewish incidents in the United States – Not all of the attacks listed here can be verified as antisemetic -- that is, targeting Jews or Jewish institutions because they are Jews. Some, like the January 2024 assault, are presumed to be antisemitic, but authorities have not confirmed such a motive. Other attacks like the 2018 attempted murder of 2 Jews outside a Los Angeles synagogue, targeted Jews but perpetrated by someone with mental illness. New title, while a little wordier, more accurately and comprehensively covers the scope of the items on this list. Longhornsg (talk) 00:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose status quo is more concise. Anti-Jewish is antisemitic, I don’t understand the argument there

Kowal2701 (talk) 13:13, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose, my understanding is that antisemitic is more or less equivalent to anti-Jewish.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:42, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Oppose. Same difference. Any incident where the victim was coincidentally Jewish but their Jewishness wasn't relevant to the incident should be excluded in any case. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Preventing link-rot

As the majority of citations for incidents are citations to online news articles, there is a great chance of link rot, to prevent this every citation with a url should have an archive url collected from the Wayback Machine, so even if the article is removed/deleted readers can access a snapshot of the material. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 14:01, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Unreliable sourcing & BLP violations

@Steven1991 Your addition of Paul Kessler's death here is a massive issue for several reasons. You are citing deprecated sources (Daily Mail), and are breaching WP:BLP & WP:SYNTH by putting in wikivoice that Loay Alnaji was responsible for his death, something that hasn't been determined yet

You said that you'd be more carful with citations & WP:NPOV, but this is showing to be a consistent issue. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 16:01, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

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