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Lars Adaktusson as a neutral source

In the Media coverage section, there's a section where Lars Adaktusson is used a source with him only being described as a journalist. Adaktusson is in fact the current chairman of the Sweden-Israel Friendship Association and was previously the chair of pro-Israel lobby organisation European Israel Public Affairs. I feel this information should be included if he is used as a source. Conspiracy Raven (talk) 20:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

End date

Ceasefire was August 14, but the war officially ended on September 8 just saying that info box should include that. Dilbaggg (talk) 06:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Misspelling of hezbollah under "hezbullah prisoners"

title says it all Shrub4TheDub (talk) 08:11, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Add Lebanese Armed Forces to infobox?

There seemed to have been several confrontations between Israeli army and Lebanon army during the war:

  • Israel attacked Lebanese Army Barracks.
  • Israel attacked Lebanese Air Force base
  • Lebanese army opened fire on Israeli helicopters trying to land
  • According to this source, supposedly 49 Lebanese soldiers were killed.

VR (Please ping on reply) 05:45, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, neither Israel nor Lebanon said they were at war with eachother. If they were, surely there would've been a lot more attacks than these few incidents. There were similar incidents between Israeli and UNIFIL soldiers, but we don't name UNIFIL as a belligerent. Your source for the airbase strike says that it "could draw the Lebanese army into Israel's war with Hizbullah guerrillas". We'd need something from Israeli or Lebanese officials, or from mainstream news outlets, saying that they were actually at war with eachother. – Asarlaí 09:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
The above sources are all reliable as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure what you mean by "mainstream outlets". Secondly, many times in history countries often participate in a conflict without declaring they are. No one is saying that Lebanon declared war on Israel but rather, the Lebanese forces participated in the conflict as a belligerent. In fact, the infobox currently lists Iran as a belligerent even though Iran did not explicity declare war on Israel, nor vice versa. Finally, 43 dead Lebanese soldiers is too large an amount to simply ignore.VR (Please ping on reply) 16:16, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
It is really unfortunate that this discussion is being spread across several talk pages simultaneously. Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 22:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
No need for a long discussion. Take the tag and put the sources in its place.Ghazaalch (talk) 10:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
It is original research to suggest that the LAF was a belligerent over a few isolated incidents. Do we add UNIFIL as a belligerent in the South Lebanon conflict (1985–2000) too, for good measure? Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 12:23, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Can we take that conversation to Talk: South Lebanon conflict (1985–2000)? VR (Please ping on reply) 23:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Also, what exactly does the word "combatant" mean to you? If it implies being engaged in combat, then RS support that. Or are you suggesting that declaration of war must always be a requirement for being included in the infobox? Finally, can you also comment on the fact that the infobox also includes Iran, Amal militia and even Islamic Courts Union as combatants? The Lebanese Army lost more soldiers than all three of these parties combined. VR (Please ping on reply) 00:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

POV tag

The lede has major POV issues. It gives only six lone sentences to the Israeli role in attacking Hezbollah, Lebanon and Lebanese civilian infrastructure, and dedicates the entirety of the last lede paragraph (which should focus on legacy of that war) on how -repetitively- no one disarmed Hezbollah. There is also POV language how "Israel responded" and "Hezbollah then launched." Nine sentences are dedicated to highlight how the war started with Hezbollah's actions. These are the actionable things that needs to be addressed for now. Makeandtoss (talk) 12:06, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

I agree the article has issues and this is a pretty wideranging edit by Galamore without much of an explanation. It should be reverted. VR (Please ping on reply) 13:55, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
It seems like they just went ahead and reverted several users' edits perhaps because they didn't like one or two things, which seems disruptive to me.VR (Please ping on reply) 13:57, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
I think we can restore the previous second lede paragraph as more neutral, at least relatively speaking. Makeandtoss (talk) 20:50, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Ok, I've undone that change and restored the second lede paragraph. I agree its more neutral.VR (Please ping on reply) 00:10, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
I reverted the second lead paragraph to the long-standing version because the new one introduced POV issues and odd framing. Hezbollah's aims since 2000 based on one analysis aren't lead-worthy in an article on a war. This paragraph should focus on events immediately leading to the start of the war, not interpretations of Hezbollah's strategy since 2000. PeleYoetz (talk) 08:12, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Hezbollah victory

Israel did not defeat Hezbollah, Hezbollah remained an effective fighting force, Israel had not achieved any real objectives, and this conflict very much could have strengthened Hezbollah. Israel lost, Hezbollah won, stop deleting topics. Mauzer's random BS (talk) 17:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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