Talk:2004 Madrid train bombings

This is the current revision of this page, as edited by Tom.Reding (talk | contribs) at 10:45, 11 November 2024 (→top: blpo=yes + blp=no/null → blp=other; cleanup). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this version.

Revision as of 10:45, 11 November 2024 by Tom.Reding (talk | contribs) (→top: blpo=yes + blp=no/null → blp=other; cleanup)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)

Skip to table of contents

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the 2004 Madrid train bombings article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Misplaced Pages? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13Auto-archiving period: 3 months

The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information.

A news item involving 2004 Madrid train bombings was featured on Misplaced Pages's Main Page in the In the news section on 11 March 2004.

Misplaced Pages

A fact from this article was featured on Misplaced Pages's Main Page in the On this day section on March 11, 2005, March 11, 2006, March 11, 2009, March 11, 2010, and March 11, 2014.

While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard.

This

level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Crime and Criminal Biography: Serial, mass, and spree killers / Terrorism Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Serial Killer task force (assessed as Mid-importance).
	This article is supported by the Terrorism task force (assessed as High-importance).

Disaster management Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Disaster management, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Disaster management on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Disaster managementWikipedia:WikiProject Disaster managementTemplate:WikiProject Disaster managementDisaster management
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Explosives Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Explosives, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Explosives on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ExplosivesWikipedia:WikiProject ExplosivesTemplate:WikiProject ExplosivesExplosives
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.

Islam: Islam and Controversy / Salaf / Sunni Islam Mid‑importance

	Islam portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Islam, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Islam-related articles on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IslamWikipedia:WikiProject IslamTemplate:WikiProject IslamIslam-related
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Islam and Controversy task force.
	This article is supported by the Salaf task force.
	This article is supported by the Sunni Islam task force.

Spain Mid‑importance

	Spain portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Spain, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Spain on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SpainWikipedia:WikiProject SpainTemplate:WikiProject SpainSpain
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Trains Mid‑importance

Trains Portal

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Trains, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to rail transport on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. See also: WikiProject Trains to do list and the Trains Portal.TrainsWikipedia:WikiProject TrainsTemplate:WikiProject Trainsrail transport

Mid

This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Jamal Zougam was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 31 August 2024 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into 2004 Madrid train bombings. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

The article 2004 Madrid train bombings suspects was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 30 August 2024 with a consensus to merge the content into 2004 Madrid train bombings. If you find that such action has not been taken promptly, please consider assisting in the merger instead of re-nominating the article for deletion. To discuss the merger, please use this talk page. Do not remove this template after completing the merger. A bot will replace it with {{afd-merged-from}}.

Archives

Archive 1	Archive 2	Archive 3
Archive 4	Archive 5	Archive 6
Archive 7	Archive 8	Archive 9
Archive 10	Archive 11	Archive 12
Archive 13

This page has archives. Sections older than 90 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 4 sections are present.

"Spanish nationals who sold the explosives to the terrorists were also arrested."

I just have to ask, do we really need 15 sources for that statement? Zazaban 06:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Please look to the archived discussion to see how dificult is to say the truth in this article. The more evident issue have required months and tones of references.--Igor21 09:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

All three sources that are now cited after " Although they had no role in the planning or implementation, the Spanish miners who sold the explosives to the terrorists were also arrested." do not mention any such thing, this should be changed. Penschy (talk) 14:28, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on 2004 Madrid train bombings. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 20:00, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 9 June 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 04:29, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

2004 Madrid train bombings → Madrid train bombings – Per Manchester Arena bombing. Unreal7 (talk) 12:40, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Oppose there have been other bombings In ictu oculi (talk) 08:57, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested move 27 December 2019

The result of the move request was: not moved to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 12:29, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

2004 Madrid train bombings → Madrid train bombings – Per Manchester Arena bombing. Already redirects here. Unreal7 (talk) 18:10, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Support - No other multiple train bombings in Madrid. The July 1979 Madrid bombings didn't happen on trains, but train stations (two of them), and are far less known than the 2004 bombings. Prism55 (talk) 15:23, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Oppose - "In the escalating violence, in 1979, one wing of the ETA bombed two Madrid train stations and the airport on the same day" ... but even without that, no benefit to any reader from removing year. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:00, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Oppose essentially per IIO Red Slash 05:50, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Oppose. As IIO says, this could be ambiguous. And although WP:CONCISE would suggest omitting the year, there are far too many examples of articles where it is included, and is useful, that I think it's fine to keep it. — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

How many days between Sept. 11, 2001 and March 11, 2004?

The article says 911.

My calendar says 912: 19 days to the end of September 2001, plus October (31), November (30), and December (31) makes 111.

Then all of 2002 (365 days) and 2003 (3)5 more days) brings the total to 841.

Then January (31) and February (29--a leap year) of 2004 brings the total to 901.

Then the event was the 11th day of March. That's 912.

Is there some Spanish convention at play here where you don't count the last day? Jeffreynye (talk) 16:19, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Categories: