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Spencer has changed his views

He says - rather convincingly in my view - that he is no longer a white nationalist and no longer associates with neo-Nazis, alt -right, etc. While of course we should not remove his scurrilous past of Nazi rhetoric, etc, I think per WP:BLP we should clarify in the opening paragraph that he has changed his views, or at least claims to have, rather than simply presenting him as a "neo-nazi, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, and white nationalist." NeverEnoughStan (talk) 03:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

So? (see WP:FALSEBALANCE). Slatersteven (talk) 12:40, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

What is the source for "anti-semitic conspiracy theorist?"

I cannot find any source for this. NeverEnoughStan (talk) 03:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

for starters EvergreenFir (talk) 04:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Ukraine/Russia

I know it is only possible under very rare circumstances to use tweet citations to demonstrate the views of an individual due to Misplaced Pages policy on self-published sources (a policy that I´m not sure I entirely agree with, nevertheless it is still policy), anyways, the point being in relation to Russia/Ukraine that the tweet that demonstrated Spencer´s newfound support for NATO and Ukraine was taken off the section on his geopolitical views, which is fine in one regard that it complies with Misplaced Pages policy but it should be strongly emphasized that Spencer is no longer a supporter of Russia as anyone would believe from simply reading the article, so we should find a source to change this. StrongALPHA (talk) 08:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

I think tweet citations can demonstrate views of an individual. To quote from WP:SPS:
¨Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves ...¨ .
TypistMonkey (talk) 13:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
However it also may not be true, so what did the edit say? Slatersteven (talk) 13:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Not sure what you mean by 'what did the edit say'; please clarify?
Do you mean if Spencer is lying about his own views? If he is verifiably the account holder, his earnestness in proclaiming this is not something we should litigate
TypistMonkey (talk) 13:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
He may well be, people do it all the time (In fact he has been accused (has he not) of not being honest about his politics?), what I meant is what I said, what did (or will) the edit say? Slatersteven (talk) 14:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
And "The material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim;". Slatersteven (talk) 13:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Shall I restore the tweets then? StrongALPHA (talk) 07:33, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
No, as it is "unduly self-serving", it is his claim to distance himself from criticism. Slatersteven (talk) 10:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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It must also be included that after endorsing joe biden, he also endorsed Kamala Harris.

https://nypost.com/2024/11/02/us-news/prominent-white-supremacist-richard-spencer-endorses-kamala-harris/ 2603:6010:6FF0:89F0:A045:757B:CA49:5D25 (talk) 01:38, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 01:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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