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To 'I'll bring the food': This would violate copyright. If you want to hear for yourself how he negotiates the passaggio in 'Una furtiva lagrima' go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV73hCD0tZI Voceditenore 18:14, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I have also added 2 citations concerning Florez and the passaggio. In addition, this quality of his voice was discussed at length by Edward Seckerson in the BBC Radio 3 programme Stage and Screen, broadcast on 22 January 2007.Voceditenore 18:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually a sample of up to 30 seconds is totally permissable by law.--I'll bring the food (Talk - Contribs - My Watchlist) 19:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

He navigates it well, if you're a believer in full voice in head, and not just the idea that a tenor can belt fairly high in chest because of their voice type.--I'll bring the food (Talk - Contribs - My Watchlist) 19:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC) But you've got to love how low his larynx is. Now that's technique.--I'll bring the food (Talk - Contribs - My Watchlist) 19:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Voceditenore, could you please add the BBC Radio 3 program as an additional citation in the "Voice" section? I'm asking because that section makes several WP:EXTRAORDINARY and somewhat opinion-y claims and unilateral assertions without any in-text attribution. It needs all the citations it can get. (If anyone tried to nominate this article for FA, for instance, I feel those meagerly cited claims would probably get challenged in some way.) Thanks in advance. I would do this myself, but (1) I don't know the content and so don't know whether the program could be used to cite more than one claim or which one(s), (2) you would probably know how best to format the citation. Grazie. Softlavender (talk) 07:58, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Edited to add: Here is a link to the BBC page on the broadcast , which also includes the playlist aired. The link can be used in the citation. Softlavender (talk) 08:07, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Softlavender, I have added another reference with a live link to additionally support the statement about aspirates. I have access to the completeTimes article concerning his mastery of coloratura as evidenced in Matilde di Shabran (already in citation 13). The quote: "he was back, driving the Pesaro audience bananas with his pinging high notes and thrilling volleys of coloratura." Frankly, I think this is more than enough, although there's also a Gramophone review which requires free registration. Quote:

His current specialisms are Almaviva in Il barbiere‚ Ramiro in La Cenerentola‚ and the bewilderingly difficult high­lying coloratura roles Rossini wrote for Giovanni David and one or two similarly equipped tenors in Italy in 1816-­23. A number of contemporary tenors sing some or all of this repertory‚ but none are as technically secure as Flórez who announces his presence here with a classically correct account of Idreno’s cavatina from Semiramide‚ an aria so difficult it is regularly omitted in the theatre and on record. Almaviva’s Act 2 aria is also regularly dropped

I could add it if you think it's still necessary. The BBC reference you've suggested doesn't really add anything, as it is just a playlist from a broadcast. So I haven't added it. However, I think the wording of the final sentence in that section would benefit from rewording to "The singer's mastery of coloratura, typified in his Idreno (Semiramide) and Corradino (Matilde di Shabran), has been noted by multiple critics." The current sentence is quite essay-like in tone. Best,Voceditenore (talk) 12:00, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Voceditenore. (1) Yes, I personally would appreciate the addition of the Gramophone review (which actually is readable without free registration), particularly because it mentions Semiramide and none of the other viewable citations for that do. (2) Yes, please qualify the statement with your rewording. (3) It doesn't matter whether the BBC Radio 3 program is currently listenable; it is an acceptable source if it validated any of the claims in the "Voice" section. It all depends on how much you remember about the program from that long ago.... Softlavender (talk) 12:24, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

OK, Softlavender, I've changed the sentence to my suggested rewording and added the Gramophone reference. Voceditenore (talk) 14:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Forgot to say that the BBC programme was 14 years ago and I cannot remember a single word of it. Thus, I am loathe to use it as reference for anything in the Voice section, especially since we now have good supporting references for each statement made there. Voceditenore (talk) 15:10, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, V, I very much appreciate your time and research. Have a great day! Hope it's not too hot there. Softlavender (talk) 01:00, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Inline citations needed for all statements please

I'm normally loathe to tag articles such as this one, but I just discovered that the vast majority of statements in the article lack any inline citation whatsoever. I am adding this talkpage comment because tags require talkpage notices as well. I hope this un-cited situation can be remedied and the tag removed in the near future. After all, arguably the greatest living tenor would seem to deserve a decently cited wiki article. Thanks all. Softlavender (talk)

Juan diego Flores

Juan’s child ( youngest I believe was born in May 2012 not 2011 as told in wikipedia 2A02:C7E:307E:8300:58C4:20CE:12B5:2F7C (talk) 12:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

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