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Draft:Asif khan Mulakhail
Hello! I'm not sure you're aware, but this article was deleted by Discospinster in mainspace at Asif khan Mulakhail, after it was moved to draftspace (which is why I also decided to tag the draft under the same criterion). The article is an autobiography since it was created by an editor with the same name as the article's subject, and therefore constitutes as self-promotion. CycloneYoris 02:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hello CycloneYoris. As far as I can see Discospinster rightly moved it to draft as a BLP lacking references and then removed not only the (no longer applicable) A7 but also the G11. If they'd wanted to delete the article rather than moving it to draftspace, then they'd have done so. Whilst it is discouraged for people to write autobiographies it isn't absolutely prohibited, and until sources are supplied it isn't heading for mainspace. The subject doesn't appear to be a minor and there's nothing overtly problematic about the content from a BLP perspective that I can see. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 03:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Thanks a lot for your response on this matter. Cheers, CycloneYoris 03:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Article deletion
Hello there, how am I actually proposed for deletion for Ayman Rashdan Wong article? I read in a guildline that I can simply put the proposed for deletion tag since you said it is not suitable for speedy deletion. Seems like I did in a wrong way again. Thank you. CyberTroopers (talk) 12:44, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- @CyberTroopers (talk page watcher) For the sake of clarity, are you talking about a procedural deletion (which is for non-speedy but non-controversial deletions), or an articles for deletion discussion (for non-speedy, more controversial deletions, including contested procedural deletions)? I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 15:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hello CyberTroopers -- I suggested using WP:Articles for deletion on your talk page the other day, so that other editors can scrutinise your reasoning and examine the evidence.
- There are step-by-step instructions to the process or if you'd like you can just state your reasons for deletion of the article in detail and I'll start a discussion on your behalf. Let me know if you'd prefer this. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:27, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
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Delinking Ellwood Cooper on Sarah Paxon Moore Cooper article
Hi there, you made some edits to Sarah Paxon Moore Cooper recently, including delinking her husband (Ellwood Cooper) listing no evidence of notability. I haven't changed it back but I do disagree and wanted your input. When writing the article on Sarah Cooper, I was actually really surprised that Ellwood Cooper didn't have an article already based on my research. There's a LOT of places in the Goleta, CA area named after him. See Ellwood Oil Field#Ellwood Oil Field for a brief listing. He's also credited with bringing eucalyptus trees to CA, which is pretty notable. I'm planning to someday write an article (hence adding in the red link originally). But if it's preferred to leave links out until the article is written, I'm happy to leave it unlinked for now. Cyanochic (talk) 22:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Cyanochic, thanks for commenting here. Sure, feel free to relink if you've assessed the matter and find Ellwood Cooper notable. What I've done in sim cases is to reference something like a national-level obit or article in biographical dictionary to the redlink to indicate notability exists.
- I'd note (as a long-term advocate for woman's bios here) that I find Sarah Paxon Moore Cooper's own notability somewhat borderline and would not be surprised if someone were to bring the article to AfD, and that the probability of that is, I fear, increased by having redlinks for things associated with her -- it makes it look as if you have some personal stake in the family. (I'm sure this not the case here, but long-term editors see an absolute truckload of articles on people ranging from borderline notable to utterly unnotable that turn out to be written by relatives.) I thought about deleting "leaving behind a legacy of scientific achievement and botanical exploration" at the end, which feels promotional to me, and also toning down "esteemed institutions", ditto.
- Hope this helps, and I've been meaning to say thanks a lot for your work on the NAS list! Really useful resource! I'm working on an article for Michael Oldstone at the moment, a god of my student years who I was staggered to find did not have an article. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 23:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the feedback! I might just wait to add the link back until I write the article. I'm actually fairly convinced about Sarah Cooper's notability (compared to others I've , but I don't have the records searching chops to track down more sources given the age. There was a LOT of articles I found talking about how her garden was a "must see" and her work as a botanist, but I really struggled to find details about both. I left some of the info I couldn't fully dig up on the talk page in the hopes that someone would be able to take it further. Also, both phrases you mentioned were suggested by someone else during drafting and I ended up leaving it, though I feel the same way. I might end up going back and deleting it myself.
- And thank you for noticing my NAS list work! It seemed like a really easy way to identify definitely notable scientists as a newbie. Hopefully once they're fully updated I'll be able to start working on some of the articles too. Cyanochic (talk) 23:27, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cyanochic (talk page watcher) Just to add what Espresso Addict said above, it isn't so much who a person is related to, or how many places are named after them. Rather, it's how many third-party sources that have gone through editorial oversight significantly mention the subject that makes it so someone (or something!) has been noted enough to qualify for an article. Here's a brief summary of the notability guideline I mentioned and here's the notability guideline for biographies. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 23:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- @I dream of horses, totally! There are actually QUITE a few sources for Ellwood Cooper (and why I was shocked there isn't an article already). To the point where it sometimes made it hard to track down sources for Sarah Cooper's article due to sources focusing on her husband (or both of them). Cyanochic (talk) 23:30, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Richard Beerhorst
Please I delete the draft so I can rewrite for impartiality please allow me the chance Thenfactor (talk) 06:44, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Thenfactor -- You are welcome to have another attempt at compiling a draft on Beerhorst, but virtually nothing in the draft that I deleted was useful (except ). What you need to do is identify several reliable independent sources that discuss Beerhorst or his work in depth (eg newspaper/magazine articles or books), and then write the article based on what they say, not on your own personal knowledge or research. The guidelines for artists are usually fulfilled either by showing that the artist's work is in the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums or by showing that the works have received substantial critical attention, so you should focus on demonstrating that at least one of these is true.
- Also, I'm afraid I have to ask, especially as you claim to be the photographer for his photo, do you have any connection with Beerhorst or are you being paid in any way to contribute this material? If so, please read WP:Conflict of interest and WP:Paid contributions and follow the instructions before editing on this topic again. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 07:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Espresso Addict, I really appreciate your input and advice, thank you very much. May I please ask if I could have the page undeleted just for the purpose of being able to copy the text, so that I can re-write the text and do as you ask? I would really appreciate not having to spend another whole day creating something from scratch again. I am the owner of the photograph but I do not have a conflict of interest with the person concerned, I have no connection with Beerhorst in any capacity. Thenfactor (talk) 09:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thenfactor OK, I've cut and pasted into your user space: User:Thenfactor/Beerhorst temporarily so that you can copy the text offline. I'll delete it tomorrow. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 09:29, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Thenfactor OK, I've cut and pasted into your user space: User:Thenfactor/Beerhorst temporarily so that you can copy the text offline. I'll delete it tomorrow. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 09:29, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Espresso Addict, I really appreciate your input and advice, thank you very much. May I please ask if I could have the page undeleted just for the purpose of being able to copy the text, so that I can re-write the text and do as you ask? I would really appreciate not having to spend another whole day creating something from scratch again. I am the owner of the photograph but I do not have a conflict of interest with the person concerned, I have no connection with Beerhorst in any capacity. Thenfactor (talk) 09:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
arif khan
--- article you said is promotion--- arif khan. can you please explain why you think it was okay for deletion and self promotion. as i have nothing to do with him yet i wanted to write a article on him given his journey as its inspriations to others. i have nothing of promotion about the brand just what hes accomplished so please help me understand what is wrong so i can resubmit.
- Hello Supermantoast8284 -- I've found the draft you meant, and stand by my deletion. There are few independent sources in the draft; no inline citations, which are required for the biographies of living people; and much of it reads as if generated by an AI. If you want to create an article on Khan, then first collect reliable independent sources that talk about him in depth; books, newspaper or magazine articles or similar are ideal. Then write a draft wholly based on what the sources say, and not on what sources connected to Khan or his company say, with everything that you write supported by inline citations. Then submit it for consideration to the Articles for Creation team for review. If you need help with editing or referencing, then the WP:Teahouse is a friendly forum for newcomers. Hope this helps, Espresso Addict (talk) 05:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Thanks, Sdkb! But truly most of the credit goes to Rhododendrites, whose words I condensed and whose instinct not to mention the case directly might have been correct, given current media reports. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 15:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- A Wikipedian collaboration 🙂 I'll give a copy to Rhododendrites as well in that case, since luckily Barnstars are not a scarce resource! Sdkb 16:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Sdkb! But truly most of the credit goes to Rhododendrites, whose words I condensed and whose instinct not to mention the case directly might have been correct, given current media reports. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 15:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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Hello- I submitted a deletion tag on a Misplaced Pages page about me, and was told I need to request the deletion here instead.
this page is about me and I am uncomfortable with it being posted. Deletion should be non controversial. 174.247.1.168 (talk) 14:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Professor Indjejikian -- I assume you are also the IP editor that requested deletion on 7 November? Thank you for coming here. I will start a deletion discussion on your behalf and link to it here shortly. However, you should be warned that articles on living people who meet the notability guidelines (in this case probably the guidelines for academics is the most relevant) are only rarely deleted at the request of the subject, and deletion usually occurs either when – in the opinion of those attending the discussion – the subject's notability is only borderline, or that there are clear privacy concerns with the content. If there is something in particular about the article that you feel is inaccurate or misrepresents your research and that needs correcting we can do that for you, and if necessary remove the information from the article history, without deleting the entire article.
- Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 14:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Here is the deletion discussion: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Raffi Indjejikian. You are welcome to participate there to explain in more detail why you would like the article to be deleted. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 15:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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Proposed article on Global Congress of Imam Reza
Re: Global Congress of Imam Reza(pbuh)
Hello,
I recently created a draft article on the Global Congress of Imam Reza. Unfortunately, it was deleted due to non-notability concerns. I believe the Global Congress of Imam Reza meets Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines due to the following reasons:
1. International Significance: The Congress attracts scholars and researchers from around the world, demonstrating its global impact.
2. Academic and Religious Importance: The Congress focuses on scholarly discussions and research related to Imam Reza, a central figure in Shia Islam. This makes it a significant event for both academic and religious communities.
3. Media Coverage: The Congress has been covered by various media outlets, both domestic and international, indicating its newsworthiness and public interest.
I have provided reliable sources to support the article's claims and demonstrate the Congress's notability. I am open to further discussion and am committed to improving the article to meet Misplaced Pages's high standards.
I would appreciate the assistance of other editors who may be knowledgeable about the Global Congress of Imam Reza or relevant Misplaced Pages policies.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Hajisuni Hajisuni (talk) 06:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Hajisuni -- Thanks for writing here. The version that I deleted for lack of notability (Global Congress of Imam Reza(pbuh); the title that you link does not look to have been deleted) had no sources other than the conference itself, and did not state any of the above points. If you have gathered reliable independent sources for the points that you make, particularly that the conference has attracted participants internationally, and that it has been covered by national-level press, then feel free to start the article again, including those sources and using neutral language, and it should be safe from deletion.
- I'd suggest drafting the article in a userspace sandbox until you feel it is ready for review. If you desire I can undelete the version I deleted and move it to your userspace, but it does not look like a very helpful start to me. If you need help with editing or referencing, then the Teahouse is a friendly forum for newcomers. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 15:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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Disruptive editing
Please have a look at the editing of Therealjacksonstephen. So far he has been warned or told off by six different editors for different disruptive editing ranging from copyright violations to removing maintenance links, redlinks, adding unsourced statements and a few others. He always deletes from his talk page, but of course they are still in the history. His latest is to mark himself as deceased! Ldm1954 (talk) 23:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Ldm1954 -- Therealjacksonstephen seems to have given up for now. Generally removing things from one's talk page is held to mean that one has read and noted them, so they are free to do that. PS I don't really deal in editor conduct issues (too conflict averse); you might be better asking someone else on the recently active list. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 23:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
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