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As South Korea now has three autonomous regions and one self-governing city, it has to be changed from "South Korea has one autonomous region, Jeju Province." to "South Korea has three autonomous regions, Jeju Province, Gangwon State, and Jeonbuk State, and one self-governing city, Sejong city." Hyujm (talk) 15:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm not the original requestor and I don't want to make a change here without consensus, but this article seems to suggest that Gangwon and Jeonbuk are now autonomous "states" with a similar status to Jeju. https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240118000682 Astrofreak92 (talk) 17:03, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
I agree regarding the provinces/states, they are presented as autonomous and at the least more autonomy than the 'normal' provinces. Unfortunately sources seem scarce, and I can't find anything great on the Seoul/Sejong. CMD (talk) 01:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

New sovereign state in Albania

https://apnews.com/article/albania-bektashi-muslim-sufi-sovereignty-c2caccfb22d9c09a3af70e55a9b6bba8

Albania has announced plans to create a Muslim Vatican City-style state in Tirana. There doesn't seem to be a timeline for now.

Seems like we might be adding a new entry soon. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 21:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

We have an article at Sovereign State of the Bektashi Order for those interested, although it doesn't yet affect this page. CMD (talk) 01:10, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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Burkina Faso and Afghanistan have their own official names like "People's Republic of Burkina Faso" and "Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan" but the page does not include it. Including that Afghanistan's flag is not there, this is just going to be a minor edit. Sasith77 (talk) 03:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. CMD (talk) 05:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
The sources are in the Burkina Faso and Afghanistan page itself. Sasith77 (talk) 11:56, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Burkina Faso - Misplaced Pages and Afghanistan - Misplaced Pages Sasith77 (talk) 11:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Afghanistan

Should Afghanistan be included twice? The Islamic Republic could be included in the "UN states" section, and the Islamic Emirate could be included in the "Other states" section. I think that only including Afghanistan once could give the false impression that there is only one sovereign Afghanistan government, when in reality there are two: UN-recognized one and the de facto one. This is what is done on the List of national flags of sovereign states page. What do you think? Di (they-them) (talk) 22:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

This is a list of state not a lists of governments, including Afghanistan twice would be misleading. CMD (talk) 23:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

North and South Korea's names

Should the reference to Congo be changed to:

Korea, Republic of

Korea, Deomocratic People's Republic of

(machine translation) Gdagys (talk) 08:30, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Those aren't the common names. They're almost universally referred to in English as North and South Korea. I do, however, think they should be changed to "Korea, North" and "Korea, South", in line with the Congos. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 11:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
I agree with you Gdagys (talk) 18:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
It's not the same thing. South Korea is the area controlled by the Republic of Korea while North Korea is the area controlled by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Using the longer names gives credence to their respective claims, which is why reliable sources generally prefer North and South Korea. It's one country divided by competing governments.
If and when they recognize each other, that will probably change as it did for Germany and China. Reliable sources also stopped referring to China as Mainland, Red or Communist China whe its current government was recognized. TFD (talk) 21:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

New Section for "States partially recognized by the UN System"

Hello. I'd like to propose changing this article to include a new category for States partially recognized by the UN System. It feels disingenuous to have widely-recognized states such as Kosovo, Niue, and the Cook Islands, along with Taiwan (one of the largest diplomatic networks in the world) and the SADR (recognized national liberation movement), lumped together with other separatist states that maintain limited support (Russian-occupied territories, Turkish-occupied Cyprus, Somaliland). I've proposed an edit as such which I will recreate below. Note that while the WTO is not a UN Specialized Agency, it is still considered part of the "UN System", which includes Taiwan under a special designation. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 21:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

States with partial recognition within the UN system

"Membership within the UN System" column legend

  Member of a UN System organization   Recognized national liberation movement

"Sovereignty dispute" column legend

  Undisputed sovereignty   Disputed sovereignty

Common and formal names Membership within the UN System Sovereignty dispute Further information on status and recognition of sovereignty
 Cook Islands D Member of eight UN specialized agencies A None
(See political status) 		A state in free association with New Zealand, the Cook Islands maintains diplomatic relations with at least 63 other states and is recognized as a sovereign state by a number of them. The Cook Islands is a member of multiple UN agencies with full treaty making capacity. It shares a head of state with New Zealand as well as having shared citizenship.
 Kosovo – Republic of Kosovo D Member of two UN specialized agencies BClaimed by AfghanistanClaimed by GeorgiaClaimed by North Korea Claimed by Serbia Claimed by Somalia Claimed by the People's Republic of China Claimed by the Republic of China Claimed by South Korea Claimed by Azerbaijan Claimed by the Republic of Cyprus Disputed by Israel Claimed by Indonesia Claimed by the Marshall Islands Claimed by Mauritius Claimed by Morocco Claimed by Moldova Claimed by Mali Claimed by Spain Claimed by Argentina Claimed by Ukraine Pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244, Kosovo was placed under the administration of the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo in 1999. Kosovo declared independence in 2008, and it has received diplomatic recognition from 114 UN member states and the Republic of China, while 18 of those states have recognised Kosovo only to later withdraw their recognition. Serbia continues to maintain its sovereignty claim over Kosovo. Other UN member states and non UN member states continue to recognise Serbian sovereignty or have taken no position on the question. Kosovo is a member of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank Group. The Republic of Kosovo has de facto control over most of the territory, with limited control in North Kosovo.
 Niue D Member of five UN specialized agencies A None
(See political status) 		A state in free association with New Zealand, Niue maintains diplomatic relations with at least 28 other states and is recognized as a sovereign state by a number of them. Niue is a member of multiple UN agencies with full treaty making capacity. It shares a head of state with New Zealand as well as having shared citizenship.
 Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic D Recognized national liberation movement BClaimed by AfghanistanClaimed by GeorgiaClaimed by North Korea Claimed by Serbia Claimed by Somalia Claimed by the People's Republic of China Claimed by the Republic of China Claimed by South Korea Claimed by Azerbaijan Claimed by the Republic of Cyprus Disputed by Israel Claimed by Indonesia Claimed by the Marshall Islands Claimed by Mauritius Claimed by Morocco Claimed by Moldova Claimed by Mali Claimed by Spain Claimed by Argentina Claimed by Ukraine The Frente Polisario, which administers the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, is recognized by the UN as the legitimate representative of the people of Western Sahara. Recognised at some stage by 84 UN member states, 38 of which have since withdrawn or frozen their recognition. It is a founding member of the African Union, an international organization with permanent observer status at the UN General Assembly.

The territories under its control, the so-called Free Zone, are claimed in whole by Morocco as part of its Southern Provinces. In turn, the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic claims the part of Western Sahara to the west of the Moroccan Wall controlled by Morocco. Its government resides in exile in Tindouf, Algeria.

 Taiwan – Republic of China D Former UN member; member of one UN-associated agency Partially unrecognised. BClaimed by AfghanistanClaimed by GeorgiaClaimed by North Korea Claimed by Serbia Claimed by Somalia Claimed by the People's Republic of China Claimed by the Republic of China Claimed by South Korea Claimed by Azerbaijan Claimed by the Republic of Cyprus Disputed by Israel Claimed by Indonesia Claimed by the Marshall Islands Claimed by Mauritius Claimed by Morocco Claimed by Moldova Claimed by Mali Claimed by Spain Claimed by Argentina Claimed by Ukraine A state competing (nominally) for recognition with the People's Republic of China (PRC) as the government of China since 1949. The Republic of China (ROC) controls the island of Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen, the Matsu Islands, and Pratas Island, as well as Taiping Island and Zhongzhou Reef of the Spratly Islands, and has not renounced claims over its annexed territories on the mainland. The ROC is recognised by 11 UN member states as well as Vatican City, none of which recognise the PRC. Additionally, one UN member (Bhutan) has refrained from recognising either the ROC or the PRC.

In addition to these relations, the ROC also maintains unofficial relations with 58 UN member states, one self-declared state (Somaliland), three territories (Guam, Hong Kong, and Macau), and the European Union via its representative offices and consulates under the One China principle. Taiwan has the 31st-largest diplomatic network in the world with 110 offices.

The territory of the ROC is claimed in whole by the PRC. The ROC participates in international organizations under a variety of pseudonyms, most commonly "Chinese Taipei" and in the WTO it has full membership under the designation of "Separate Customs Territory of Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu". The ROC was a founding member of the UN and enjoyed membership from 1945 to 1971, with veto power in the UN Security Council. See China and the United Nations.

Other states

"Membership within the UN System" column legend

  No membership

"Sovereignty dispute" column legend

  Disputed sovereignty

Common and formal names Membership within the UN System Sovereignty dispute Further information on status and recognition of sovereignty
 Abkhazia – Republic of Abkhazia D No membership BClaimed by AfghanistanClaimed by GeorgiaClaimed by North Korea Claimed by Serbia Claimed by Somalia Claimed by the People's Republic of China Claimed by the Republic of China Claimed by South Korea Claimed by Azerbaijan Claimed by the Republic of Cyprus Disputed by Israel Claimed by Indonesia Claimed by the Marshall Islands Claimed by Mauritius Claimed by Morocco Claimed by Moldova Claimed by Mali Claimed by Spain Claimed by Argentina Claimed by Ukraine Recognised by Russia, Nicaragua, Nauru, Syria, Venezuela, South Ossetia, and Transnistria. Claimed in whole by Georgia as the Autonomous Republic of Abkhazia.
 Northern Cyprus – Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus D No membership BClaimed by AfghanistanClaimed by GeorgiaClaimed by North Korea Claimed by Serbia Claimed by Somalia Claimed by the People's Republic of China Claimed by the Republic of China Claimed by South Korea Claimed by Azerbaijan Claimed by the Republic of Cyprus Disputed by Israel Claimed by Indonesia Claimed by the Marshall Islands Claimed by Mauritius Claimed by Morocco Claimed by Moldova Claimed by Mali Claimed by Spain Claimed by Argentina Claimed by Ukraine Recognised only by Turkey. Under the name "Turkish Cypriot State", it is an observer state of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation and the Economic Cooperation Organization. Northern Cyprus is claimed in whole by the Republic of Cyprus.
 Somaliland – Republic of Somaliland D No membership BClaimed by AfghanistanClaimed by GeorgiaClaimed by North Korea Claimed by Serbia Claimed by Somalia Claimed by the People's Republic of China Claimed by the Republic of China Claimed by South Korea Claimed by Azerbaijan Claimed by the Republic of Cyprus Disputed by Israel Claimed by Indonesia Claimed by the Marshall Islands Claimed by Mauritius Claimed by Morocco Claimed by Moldova Claimed by Mali Claimed by Spain Claimed by Argentina Claimed by Ukraine A de facto independent state, not formally diplomatically recognised by any other state; claimed in whole by the Federal Republic of Somalia.
 South Ossetia – Republic of South Ossetia–the State of Alania D No membership BClaimed by AfghanistanClaimed by GeorgiaClaimed by North Korea Claimed by Serbia Claimed by Somalia Claimed by the People's Republic of China Claimed by the Republic of China Claimed by South Korea Claimed by Azerbaijan Claimed by the Republic of Cyprus Disputed by Israel Claimed by Indonesia Claimed by the Marshall Islands Claimed by Mauritius Claimed by Morocco Claimed by Moldova Claimed by Mali Claimed by Spain Claimed by Argentina Claimed by Ukraine A de facto independent state, recognised by Russia, Nicaragua, Nauru, Syria, Venezuela, Abkhazia, and Transnistria. Claimed in whole by Georgia as the Provisional Administration of South Ossetia.
 Transnistria – Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic D No membership BClaimed by AfghanistanClaimed by GeorgiaClaimed by North Korea Claimed by Serbia Claimed by Somalia Claimed by the People's Republic of China Claimed by the Republic of China Claimed by South Korea Claimed by Azerbaijan Claimed by the Republic of Cyprus Disputed by Israel Claimed by Indonesia Claimed by the Marshall Islands Claimed by Mauritius Claimed by Morocco Claimed by Moldova Claimed by Mali Claimed by Spain Claimed by Argentina Claimed by Ukraine A de facto independent state, recognised only by Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Claimed in whole by Moldova.

Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 21:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm not entirely opposed to this. I think your idea has some merit. Two comments:
1. What exactly is a "recognized national liberation movement"? Is there some kind of verifiable source for UN recognition of this nature? And does it qualify it as UN-associated?
2. I'm wary about classifying the WTO as "UN-associated". I don't know enough about their relationship to say for sure one way or the other. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 21:59, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
1. A "recognized national liberation movement" is a designation from the 1970s–1980s that granted special status to certain groups during decolonisation, but is still in force today. For example, the PLO was a recognized national liberation movement until it was promoted to a non-member state in 2012. The UN receives communications from and maintains relations with the Polisario Front (the administrators of the SADR) as the "legitimate representative" of Western Sahara, a Non-Self-Governing Territory. The Polisario Front's international status has been recently reaffirmed by the EU Court of Justice. I've cited the two UN resolutions that initially granted recognition as sources in the "Further information" column.
2. The WTO is listed here on the official UN System website. So, though it is not a specialized agency and formally separate from the UN, it is still recognized as part of the UN System due to their close relations. Taiwan participates in the WTO. Again, it seems disingenuous to group Taiwan with other states that have almost no international legitimacy.
Let me know if that helps. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 22:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)


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