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ECR alert edit request details

Hi SFR, how is this for a message informing user's of AI-ABECR regulations regarding what kind of edit requests are allowed?

"To edit in the Israeli-Palestinian topic area on Misplaced Pages accounts must be at least thirty days old and have at least 500 edits. This includes editing talk pages, with the sole exception being for very specific edit requests, which should be in the form of "change x to y for reason z."

Thanks, IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 20:07, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

That's not bad. I've been thinking of adding something similar to the welcome template I made to make it clear that it applies to talk pages. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
I would include some phrasing that this includes articles that are not inherently about the Arab-Israeli conflict. Here is a suggestion:
"To edit in the Arab-Israeli topic area on Misplaced Pages (including articles that are not primarily about the Arab-Israeli conflict, but the edit involves the Arab-Israeli conflict), accounts must be at least thirty days old and have at least 500 edits. This includes editing talk pages. The sole exception being specific talk page edit requests, that are in the form of "change x to y for reason z." The Mountain of Eden (talk) 20:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
{{welcome-arbpia}} has language along those lines. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Not to waste your time, but I've been using this lately:
"To edit in the Israeli-Palestinian topic area on Misplaced Pages accounts must be at least thirty days old and have at least 500 edits. This includes editing talk pages, with the sole exception being for simple and specific edit requests, which should be in the form of "change x to y for reason z", and which should ideally be done using the Edit Request Wizard."
Any objections to this? Seem appropriate? IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 19:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
I don't know if directing new editors to the wizard would be that helpful. This is just my personal view, but the pile of preloaded templates and formatting makes it difficult for people unfamiliar with wiki editing to figure out what's going on. The majority of edit request wizard requests I saw when I patrolled edit requests were malformed. That's anecdotal, though. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
I think you're right, I removed that bit.
Thanks for the feedback and thank you for always responding to my pings to enforce ECR. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 12:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Belated response

Since the case is closed, I'll reply here. You wrote

"This edit definitely does add claim language that is not found in the source. This edit adds claim language that is not found in the source. Is that enough to show a pattern?"

The answer is "yes, it shows a pattern of attributing certain categories of claim that absolutely must not be repeated as fact in wikivoice". The Israeli military makes claims every day, many of which turn out to be false. For example, the head of that research institute told the press that he had multiple bodies of decapitated babies when in fact there were none. Hamas does it too. All claims by warring parties against their enemies must be reported as attributed assertions. Not doing so would be highly destructive to article integrity. There's nothing wrong with calling them "claims" either. Zero 03:33, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I reached out to VR about this here, and that has much of my thoughts on it. Long story short is that there was simply too much in the report to handle at AE, and with ARBPIA5 in the wings it would be best to investigate it there. That includes determining if the dozens of diffs provided show a pattern of tendentiously misrepresenting what another editor is doing. Much as I said to VR, looking into that report fully would have involved source analysis, offering other sources to possibly demonstrate that the sources cited aren't following the mainstream reporting or analysis, how the MOS applies to the dozens of individual edits, and it's just beyond what AE is for.
Closing it as too complex, no action was also a possibility, but I don't think that is the best way to handle it when there are accusations in both directions in the report and about the content of the report. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:34, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
I believe you are making a fundamental error. I'm preparing a little essay about. Zero 11:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Let me know when it's up. I'm interested to read it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

ARBECR, Portal:Current events and Misplaced Pages:In the news/Candidates

Are Portal:Current events and Misplaced Pages:In the news/Candidates within scope of ARBECR? If so, this static IP might benefit from a reminder judging from some of their contributions. Portal:Current events seems to be a possible WP:ARBECR enforcement blind spot. Sean.hoyland (talk) 13:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

It does apply there, and it definitely is a blind spot. A lot of the editors there aren't ARBPIA regulars and aren't really aware of ECR. I'll give them a warning. If you see it continuing, let me know. Thanks for the heads up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Actually, I see they were given a recent warning about a week ago so I've blocked for a week. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
I didn't even notice the warning. Will try to figure out how to keep an eye on the portal. Sean.hoyland (talk) 13:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
I'd add it to my watchlist, but at 5700 pages it's already not very effective for patrolling except in the broadest sense. I also don't want to just show up at ITN/C or the current events portal and start telling everyone to start enforcing ECR. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For the fact I constantly see you quickly blocking vandals, preventing spam, replying at ANI, the list goes on...

Thank you! CoconutOctopus talk 15:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate it, thanks! Just doing my part. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:22, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Unhinged bullying from GhostofDanGurney

ScottishFinnishRaddish, can you take a look at the recent behaviour from GoDG, he clearly has an extreme vendetta against and is desperate to hound me off this page.

A few days back, another user disagreed with some content on the Khalistan movement, in which I added content from the page Canada-India diplomatic row- see and . The content was a signifcant diplomatic fallout as a result of India's alleged role in clandestine operations against Khalistan activists, and I thought that precluding such a consequential event from the page would constitute non neutral editing and make it appear that the page was skewed towards a pro-India bias.

Nyttend disagreed with this and removed the content from the page. As you can see, I made only one revert, which is well within reason, and when Nyttend posted on my t/p, I told him I would not revert any further and initiated a discussion on the t/p where I intended to go to 3O or DRN if we couldn't reach a consenus. I believe I handled the situation responsibly.

GhostofDanGurney, who has a long history of suppressing any critical information on the page Hardeep Singh Nijjar (see my diffs on the previous A/E case), saw this opportunity and rushed to try to hound me further. He made this hasty revert again where he did not properly research the subject at hand, falsely calling him a "low profile individual" and thus incorrectly invoking BLPCRIME and then left a rude, condescending message on my t/p to try to pile on me.

Now when it's clear that there is significant coverage on Dalla in general, thus not making him a low profile indiviudal and reports of his connection with Nijjar, he filed another A/E request, days after his last failed one as a desperate attempt to hound me off the platform.

I find it reprehensible that this bullying behaviour has carte-blanche on Misplaced Pages. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 19:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Would it not make more sense to take this to ANI rather than to try and ask one specific admin to look into it? Just Step Sideways 19:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Just Step Sideways, Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Southasianhistorian8 2. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
This is already at AE, so let's keep it there. Also, you may want to stay away from personal attacks like unhinged bullying. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Please revoke TPA from Robinsinghkamboj

for legal threats here. JJPMaster (she/they) 03:06, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Looks like they removed it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:46, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Arbitration motions regarding Palestine-Israel articles

In response to the referral to the Arbitration Committee of an enforcement request from the Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard, where you participated in the administrators' discussion, the Committee has resolved by motion that:

Motion 1: Appeals only to ArbCom

When imposing a contentious topic restriction under the Arab-Israeli conflict contentious topic, an uninvolved administrator may require that appeals be heard only by the Arbitration Committee. In such cases, the committee will hear appeals at ARCA according to the community review standard. A rough consensus of arbitrators will be required to overturn or amend the sanction.

Motion 2b: Word limits

Uninvolved administrators may impose word limits on all participants in a discussion, or on individual editors across all discussions, within the area of conflict. These word limits are designated as part of the standard set of restrictions within the Arab-Israeli conflict contentious topic. These restrictions must be logged and may be appealed in the same way as all contentious topic restrictions.

Motion 2c: Word limits

All participants in formal discussions (RfCs, RMs, etc) within the area of conflict are urged to keep their comments concise, and are limited to 1,000 words per discussion. This motion will sunset two years from the date of its passage.

Motion 5: PIA5 Case

Following a request at WP:ARCA, the Arbitration Committee directs its clerks to open a case to examine the interaction of specific editors in the WP:PIA topic area. Subject to amendment by the drafting arbitrators, the following rules will govern the case:

  • The case title will be Palestine-Israel articles 5.
  • The initial parties will be:
  • Aoidh will be the initial drafter
  • The case will progress at the usual time table, unless additional parties are added or the complexity of the case warrants additional time for drafting a proposed decision, in which case the drafters may choose to extend the timeline.
  • All case pages are to be semi-protected.
  • Private evidence will be accepted. Any case submissions involving non-public information, including off-site accounts, should be directed to the Arbitration Committee by email to Arbcom-en@wikimedia.org. Any links to the English Misplaced Pages submitted as part of private evidence will be aggregated and posted on the evidence page. Any private evidence that is used to support a proposal (a finding of fact or remedy) or is otherwise deemed relevant to the case will be provided to affected parties when possible (evidence of off-wiki harassment may not be shared). Affected parties will be given an opportunity to respond.
Addendum

In passing motion #5 to open a Palestine-Israel articles 5 case, the Committee has appointed three drafters: Aoidh, HJ Mitchell, and CaptainEek. The drafters have resolved that the case will open on November 30. The delay will allow the Committee time to resolve a related private matter, and allow for both outgoing and incoming Arbitrators to vote on the case. The drafters have changed the party list to the following individuals:

The drafters reserve the right to amend the list of parties if necessary. The drafters anticipate that the case will include a two week evidence phase, a one week workshop phase, and a two week proposed decision phase.

The related Arbitration enforcement referral: Nableezy et al request has been folded into this case. Evidence from the related private matter, as alluded to in the Covert canvassing and proxying in the Israel-Arab conflict topic area case request, will be examined prior to the start of the case, and resolved separately.

For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust (talk) 06:12, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Arbitration motions regarding Palestine-Israel articles

IP sock

Hi, it is regarding this person who was blocked for posting legal threats. Apparently, they are back as an IP in this article. I'd like to request a temporary protection. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Blocked. Let me know if they pop up with another IP and I'll use some protection. Thanks for the heads up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:12, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

You may wish

...to pull TPA. User_talk:Corene_Effertz --Seawolf35 05:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, all set. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 05:58, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Notification of arbitration enforcement appeal

Hello, I'm leaving this notification on your talk page as is required by the template when opening an enforcement appeal. Thank you. Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Ecrusized Ecrusized (talk) 15:02, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Multiple account abuse

Hello ScottishFinnishRadish! You recently blocked a vandal using an IP account, 71.215.20.179, for repeated vandalism of Barenaked Ladies demo tapes. That same vandal has multiple accounts & appears to doggedly vandalise the same things again & again over many years. Currently they are using No Wheat Is Allowed, DEH189, Esporta Fitness Is Prohibited, also IP editor 71.215.9.55 & probably more. They are obviously these previously banned vandals: TheresNoWayOut, Woldabe8, 92A, 71.215.219.113, & Front8912. They make a number of Subtle/Silly vandalism but seem most obsessed with changing the number in the title of the Barenaked Ladies song, "If I Had $1000000". Many of the accounts will have 9 edits to their Sandbox, an obvious attempt to game the Autoconfirmed status. I wonder if you could please block those mentioned accounts as vandals/block evasion? I just don't understand someone putting so much effort into vandalism, with that much effort they could make actual useful edits. Thank-you for your time! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 16:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I only saw one account in the list unblocked, so I took care of that. The unblocked ips are stale so I didn't bother with them. I also protected the demo tapes article for a few months. Thanks for the heads up and let me know if you see any more disruption. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Hello ScottishFinnishRadish! Thank-you so much for the very swift action! Also thanks to Pickersgill-Cunliffe who appears to have swatted the other accounts I mentioned in the list, the reason they were blocked when you got to them. Both of you acted really quickly. Thanks for your time & help! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 17:01, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Glad to help, that's why they pay us the big bucks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
You guys are getting paid? Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 17:09, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
My bank account is full of Misplaced Pages thanks, barnstars, and good vibes. Unrelated, but can anyone spare some scratch for my mortgage? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:11, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for standing for arbitrator. I am far away from it all (travel, mourning), not in the mood, so just an informal question you can answer or ignore:

What does this 2024 DYK tell you about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Those articles don't, in and of themselves, tell me a lot about infoboxes, other than that most of them have infoboxes. Quick power ranking on their hair, though.
  1. Franz Schreker - Off center widows peak over male-pattern baldness. Wild wings on the sides. Combined with the expression he really communicates "intense Austrian composer"
  2. Alexander von Zemlinsky - always maximum respect for a pompadour
  3. Arnold Schoenberg - I'll always believe that Picard was the best captain, and this haircut communicates that. Middle of the road though, as the default bald guy cut
  4. Gustav Mahler - trying to pull off the "genius that doesn't care about his hair" look, but Schreker did it much better
  5. Erich Wolfgang Korngold - looks like he's going to a job interview at a bank
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95.91.249.178 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

Hi. Maybe the wrong place but this may be the quickest. this user is multiple IP abuser.uses "bann".here same with blocked ip. Beshogur (talk) 16:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's actually RumyantsevPolkovodets. I've blocked for a month for block evasion. Thanks for the heads up, and let me know if you see them pop up again. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Best Wishes

Hi ScottishFinnishRadish, I noticed that you are running for Arbcom elections. I want to wish you good luck for it. I have just voted for you :) Maliner (talk) 18:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Gaza Genocide

I believe you protected Talk on Gaza Genocide. I have insufficient editing experience to qualify for the proper status to post on Talk for this page. I was wondering how it is possible to communicate the simplest information. Specifically, a reference to the link of UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese's latest report Genocide as Colonial Erasure from October 2024 is missing. This is the link:

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/genocide-as-colonial-erasure-report-francesca-albanese-01oct24/

The reference number should be placed before number 240. I hope you or someone else will add it.

Is there any way I can post a topic on Talk to add information for someone else to consider and edit? I understand the importance of restricting access to controversial topics. I am only starting to edit again, after a 7 year absence, and I never edited much to begin with. I would like to improve accuracy of topics with minor additions. Davids0011 (talk) 11:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

You can request that edit at Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection/Edit where patrollers will check it and either action it, move it to the talk page for further discussion, or decline it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. Davids0011 (talk) 12:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
No problem. I'm going to place a couple messages on your talk page that explain some of the peculiarities of the ARBPIA topic area. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Report

Hey,

Take a look on that user please.

IdanST (talk) 15:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

It is an IP that made a series of edits over 13 minutes two weeks ago, and was blocked. At this point there's nothing else to do. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Udham Singh

Hi, it is regarding sockpuppetry by Robinsinghkamboj, who was blocked for removal of sourced content and making legal threats. Apparently, they are back with another ID. Have a look . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:56, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Blocked. Might be meat, rather than a sock, but the effect is the same. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring at History of the compass

Could you take a look at History of the compass? An IP editor is edit warring against multiple editors. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 15:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Nevermind already taken care of. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 15:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
I see they were just blocked. Just one IP address in the past month, so not going to protect now, but if you see it continue just let me know. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Will do, thanks. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 15:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

1259510796

can be deleted, too.

Also, I'm noticing a very unusual error, when I compare diffs between the LTA and a clean version, it won't show, obviously, because I'm not an admin, but then it also pops up the following in a red box:

User doesn't have access to the requested revision (The revision #1259514017 belongs to a deleted page. You can ; details can be found in the .).

(I've nowikied the above, because the error box literally shows that).

Screenshot of an error where the red box shows content that was supposed to include links, but links failed.

Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 16:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Not sure what's up with the error. Maybe because some adjacent revision is deleted? I took care of 796. Thanks for the heads up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
I couldn't find the message in Special:AllMessages. Are there other places where they are located?
Also, 1259514953 is still live. Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 16:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
All set. As for the message, you got me stumped. VPT is probably a better venue for that as I'm blissfully unaware of where many of those messages are located. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Ok, I'll post this at VPT
wait... there's more than 5000 messages, hang on Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 16:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
It seems like MediaWiki:Rest-permission-denied-revision would be the closest match.
Posting to VPT... Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 16:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Request additional revision deletion at Misplaced Pages:Help desk

Hi, I recently noticed you deleted a bunch of revisions at Misplaced Pages:Help desk, but there are some remaining vandalising edits (most notably, this one) whose offending content and edit summaries are still visible. Would it be okay if you redacted the content and edit summaries on the remaining offending edits? 208.114.63.4 (talk) 16:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) the user doing this is an attention-seeking troll. The less we do the better, and revdel doesn't actually stop them doing anything. Ivanvector (/Edits) 17:16, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
I normally just zap the ones I see when I revert. They're not really worth more than minimal effort. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Revdel request at Talk:Imane Khelif

This again. Does this signal the TP might need protection from unregistered users? Thanks as ever for your thoughts. JFHJr (㊟) 00:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

That was fast. Thank you so much! JFHJr (㊟) 00:22, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
No problem. There's not enough disruption at this point for talk page protection, since it looks like the last issue was two weeks ago. If it pops up again, let me know, and thanks for keeping a weather eye. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Block conflict

I've reverted my block of Trampled crop field (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) to the settings you had posted. Looks like we had a conflict there. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:09, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Bare Naked Multiple Account Abuse

Hello ScottishFinnishRadish! Return of that multiple account abuser making Subtle/Silly edits, this time as DooraDora. Same changes as last time to the amount in the song title "If I Had $1,000,000". Kind of sad that they have nothing better to do. Could you please block the account? At least this should help toward that mortgage, you guys do get a bounty right? :) Thanks for your time! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 01:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

All set, thanks for the heads-up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Hello ScottishFinnishRadish! Goodness, you're fast! Thank-you kindly for your work! Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 02:03, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Vegan416

Hi SFR, I wonder if you'd consider lifting your TBAN of Vegan416? Maybe you'll need to hear from him, but I thought I'd try to facilitate as someone more comfortable with such wiki processes. I reached out to him because he had done some extremely substantive work, such as this research, and I hoped to see more of that.

I think the reasons for the TBAN were valid, but it has been 4 months which seems like a significant sanction already. Can't be sure that the issues won't recur, but I would argue that a second chance makes sense given Vegan's unique substantive contributions. — xDanielx /C\ 15:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I can say that I realize that speaking publicly about other editors' personal political (or other) opinions is against the rule, and I can promise to avoid doing that again in the future. Vegan416 (talk) 16:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Per WP:CTOP, Only the restricted editor may appeal an editor restriction. Looking at their contributions since the topic ban, I see some sub-par BLP editing that makes me a bit wary about lifting any topic ban unilaterally. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:22, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
What is the meaning of "unilaterally" in this context? Vegan416 (talk) 11:54, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
On my own, as the administrator who sanctioned you. I would rather you get broader input through appealing at AE or AN. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Appeal on indefinite ban on topic

Hello SFR, One year and one month ago, you banned me "indefinitely from any edits related to the Arab/Israel conflict" for unknowingly committing "a 1RR" violation even though I had undone the violation by myself immediately after realizing it was a 1RR, before anyone had done any other edits to the page, and before your ban. I argued at the time that it was clear that I simply hadn't noticed that it was a 1RR violation, as I explicitly stated in the edit summary that I was again reverting someone else's undue removal of content, and only a few minutes later I undid my own edit as I realized it would constitute a 1RR in less than 24 hours violation on my part, but still you ruled to ban me "indefinitely" as, according to you, the Arab/Israel conflict was too serious for someone who was not 100% familiar with the 1RR violation rule. Now that over one year has passed since then, and as I truly believe that a permanent ban (for a violation that had already been corrected by myself in a matter of minutes) was a harsh decision, I intend to appeal the indefinite ban. Before taking the matter to appropriate mechanisms of ban reviews, though, I decided to present these arguments first to you, and to therefore ask if you would be willing to consider removing the indefinite ban yourself. Thank you very much for your time and attention, and for all the time dedicated to Misplaced Pages, and have a good day. Dan Palraz (talk) 08:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

You made far more edits in the week leading to your topic ban than you've made in the past year so it's difficult to determine if there's been a significant improvement. If you do appeal I suggest you mention your earlier 6 month topic ban that came with an explicit warning, I would strongly caution you (Dan Palraz@) though that if there are any problematic edits in this topic area after the topic ban expires you will almost definitely end up with an indefinite topic ban and that given that the behaviour continued it would be difficult to successfully appeal. as it provides some context to your indefinite topic ban. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Block Evasion

You used these words "Block Evasion" to revert multiple edits today on airport pages. What does this phrase mean and why did you use it to revert edits ? Pmbma (talk) 14:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

I was mass-reverting the edits of an editor that was evading blocks on a number of other IP addresses. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:41, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Some of the edits were good - I would have done the same edits. Pmbma (talk) 14:49, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Feel free to reinstate any edits that you believe were an improvement. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:55, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Question about what constitutes edit warring (@Israel)

Hello @ScottishFinnishRadish:, @Barkeep49:. I wanted to ask you for some guidance whether the following situation amounts to edit warring.

  • Following a content dispute whether the "Gaza genocide" should be included on the Israel article, an RfC was started on 22 November.
  • On 27 November, despite the ongoing RfC, User:Selfstudier added content related to the "Gaza genocide" to the article.
  • Another editor reverted the addition and requested that Selfstudier refrain from adding the disputed content while the RfC is still ongoing.
  • A few minutes later, Selfstudier restored it anyway

Selfstudier says the RfC is about the lead, not the body, but the RfC is clearly about the body too (check the text here ). I contacted Selfstudier on their talk page asking them to self-revert but they said this wasn't edit warring , asking me to re-read the RfC (which I read, and is clearly on the body too) and threatened to report me for making a 'false accusation'. Then they went on to remove our discussion from the page . Overall this isn't the first time I'm seeing Selfstudier doing this for content that is being discussed in an RfC following a content dispute. What should one make out of this case? thanks. ABHammad (talk) 06:14, 29 November 2024 (UTC)