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Deleted articles

Can I please see the deleted article Pavlos Danelatos. Davidgoodheart (talk) 00:00, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@Davidgoodheart: Here it is. ✗plicit 02:34, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Can I please see the deleted McMahon–Helmsley Faction. Davidgoodheart (talk) 21:42, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
@Davidgoodheart: Here it is. ✗plicit 06:37, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Please let me see the deleted Alliance to End Hulkamania. Davidgoodheart (talk) 05:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
@Davidgoodheart: Here it is. ✗plicit 05:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Can I please see the deleted Scott Atkinson article. Davidgoodheart (talk) 05:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
@Davidgoodheart: Here it is. ✗plicit 05:45, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Can I please see the deleted article Kshitij (festival). Davidgoodheart (talk) 17:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
@Davidgoodheart: Here it is. It is a promotional mess, but perhaps the sources may be of value. ✗plicit 13:00, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Can I please see deleted article Roller coaster phobia. Davidgoodheart (talk) 20:35, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
@Davidgoodheart: Here it is. ✗plicit 00:10, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Please can I see deleted article Hailey Dunn. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:03, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
@Davidgoodheart: Here it is. ✗plicit 06:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

AlgoSec

Can I please see the deleted article AlgoSec. This is a notable cybersecurity firm, with hundreds of global customers https://www.algosec.com/our-customers and should not be deleted. You can see some of the news coverage they have received https://www.algosec.com/news amechad — Preceding undated comment added 20:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Amechad: Are you affiliated with the company? Would you like to disclose any conflict of interest? ✗plicit 23:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
I am a former employee so am knowledge but am not employed currently nor in any way affiliated on a freelance or contract basis. Regarded, this is a notable company and therefore should have a reputable and quality page according to Misplaced Pages guidelines Amechad (talk) 08:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

File:A defence of the constitutions of gov of the USA Book Cover.jpg

I bookmarked this a while ago with a note to myself (possibly PD). It's since been deleted, but could you take a look? I remember nothing of the file beyond the note I left to myself. JayCubby Talk 22:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@JayCubby: The cover in question can be found here. A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America currently uses a different image. ✗plicit 23:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! The portrait is PD and the cover text is by no means a literary work, so couldn't this be below TOO? JayCubby Talk 23:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
@JayCubby: The textured background is pretty complex, so I suspect that would push this cover above the threshold of originality. ✗plicit 00:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
@Explicit Good point! JayCubby Talk 00:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
(edit conflict) (talk page watcher) Hi JayCubby. You might be able to argue as much, but it probably would be better to ask about this at c:COM:VPC because that's really where this file should be if the cover art is truly PD. It seems to me that there wouldn't be much point in restoring the file here on Misplaced Pages if it's ultimately only going to end up at Commons anyway, and there's no point in getting it restored locally if Commons can't host the file. Finally, although being PD means the file doesn't need to be treated as non-free and thus isn't subject to deletion per WP:F5, there could still be encyclopedic or contextual reasons unrelated to copyright as to why the image currently being used in the main infobox of the article might still be considered by others as preferable to this particular one. That's something that you probably would need to resolve through article talk page discussion. One thing you might want to ask about here on Misplaced Pages at either WP:MCQ or WP:FFD is whether File:John Adams - A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America Vol. II. (1787.jpg needs to be treated as non-free since it seems to be a pretty clear case of c:COM:2D copying given that the file comes from File:John Adams - A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America Vol. I. (1787).djvu (page 7). -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:20, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

File:Gladiator_20th_Anniversary_Edition.jpg

Hello, I saw you deleted the subject. Had you actually seen the talk pages? How is it a violation when it's low resolution enough? Thx Supermann (talk) 06:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

@Supermann: Hi, the file was not deleted based on its resolution, it was deleted due to its failure to adhere to the non-free content criteria policy. The difference between the deleted file and File:Gladiatorsoundtrack.png were minimal; the only real difference was the addition of the text "20th Anniversary Edition" underneath the title. This is not sufficient to pass WP:NFCC#3a, which dictates that "Multiple items of non-free content are not used if one item can convey equivalent significant information." The text at Gladiator (2000 soundtrack)#20th Anniversary Edition suffices. ✗plicit 06:42, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Alrighty. Many thanks for the explanation. I guess a picture is not worth 1000 words after all. Supermann (talk) 16:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

File:V - Fri(end)s.png

Hi Explicit. Would you mind taking a look at File:V - Fri(end)s.png? It seems like it's at least {{PD-ineligible-USonly}} to me per c:COM:TOO US, but I'm not sure whether it's {{PD-shape}}/{{PD-logo}} based on c:COM:TOO South Korea since that's where Big Hit Music, the label that released "Fri(end)s", is located. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Hi, after viewing a larger resolution of the cover, it seems that even the border design is too complex to qualify for {{PD-ineligible-USonly}}. ✗plicit 03:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look at this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for Mount Barker United SC

Henge2024 has asked for a deletion review of Mount Barker United SC. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 08:35, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

About declined deletion Diff

I don't understand what the difference is between this pages and the other spam pages. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log&page=Draft:Hamidreza_Ghorbani_(musician_) https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log&page=Draft:Hamidreza_Ghorbani_(musician_) and other WikiBayer (talk) 09:17, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Karamogo

Hi, you deleted the page on Karamogo saying you couldn't find any sources, but just a quick search on google scholar finds a few:

  • Routledge Handbook of Islam in Africa: The Qur'an school and trajectories of Islamic education A karamogo was an Islamic scholar, a term compounded by the verb "kalan" and noun "mogo". "Kalan" means to read/recite/teach/study while "mogo" means person. A student is called "karamogo den" (lit. scholar child) while a teacher is called "karamogo fa" (lit. scholarly father). A teacher like a father has perpetual authority over his student, one that endures after the student has completed their studies.
  • others just mention the term rather than discuss

Kowal2701 (talk) 15:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

@Kowal2701: Hi, the deletion summary is a copy of the words used by the user who proposed the page for deletion, not mine. Are you contesting the deletion? ✗plicit 03:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I’ll go through the process, thank you Kowal2701 (talk) 07:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
@Kowal2701: Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ✗plicit 11:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

About the categories of North Indian and South Indian descent.

I noticed that you placed a speedy deletion tag on the categories Category:American people of South Indian descent and Category:American people of North Indian descent. I would like to offer some reasons why these categories should be retained, as they highlight important aspects of diversity within the broader Indian-American community: Recognition of Cultural and Regional Diversity: India is an incredibly diverse country with distinct regional identities, languages, cuisines, traditions, and cultural practices. Categorizing individuals of South Indian and North Indian descent helps acknowledge these unique aspects within the diaspora, which otherwise might be overlooked in broader, generalized categories. Better Representation: These categories allow for a more granular understanding of how various communities contribute to American society. For example, South Indian Americans have made significant contributions in fields like technology and classical arts, while North Indian Americans are prominent in areas like politics and Bollywood-inspired media. Facilitating Research and Accessibility: Scholars, journalists, and readers looking to explore specific contributions or experiences of South Indian or North Indian communities in the U.S. will find such categorization invaluable. It ensures that resources and information are easier to locate and study. Reflecting Diaspora Identity: Many Indian Americans identify strongly with their regional heritage (e.g., Tamil, Kannada, Punjabi, or Gujarati). These categories validate and reflect the lived experiences and identities of people within the diaspora. Consistency with Other Ethnic Subcategories: Misplaced Pages frequently recognizes subcategories for other ethnic or national groups, such as Category:American people of Basque descent or Category:American people of Scots-Irish descent. The proposed categories are consistent with this practice of nuanced representation. I believe these categories enrich Misplaced Pages’s diversity and inclusivity by acknowledging the varied and vibrant backgrounds within the Indian-American community. I hope this perspective provides a reason to reconsider the deletion proposal. Looking forward to your response! SavetheSouthofIndia (talk) 16:22, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

P.S. Please reply on my talk page. SavetheSouthofIndia (talk) 16:24, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
@SavetheSouthofIndia (talk page watcher) I see that you've also put a message on Lizs talk page. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 16:30, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Close of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Te Pīhopatanga o Aotearoa

Does this close prejudice any decision to redirect the subunits to the main article per WP:BLAR? There were no comments on them to my knowledge and the sources provided in the AfD doesn't provide enough coverage to justify a stand alone article for them. Traumnovelle (talk) 01:50, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

@Traumnovelle: It would probably be best if you made your proposal on the talk pages of the articles and pinging the AFD participants instead of redirecting them outright. Otherwise, your actions may be viewed as an attempt to circumvent the consensus to keep the articles. ✗plicit 03:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
I shall do that, thanks. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:46, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete close but not done?

Hello,

I see that you closed this as delete, but it would seem that both of the redirects WP:WHITEWASH and WP:WHITEWASHING still function and have not been deleted yet? Can you please complete the delete. Iljhgtn (talk) 04:51, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

@Kowal2701: Hi, it's deleted on my side. Maybe purging the page can do the trick? ✗plicit 11:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:WHITEWASH: Revision history - Misplaced Pages
Misplaced Pages:WHITEWASHING: Revision history - Misplaced Pages
Looks like there is no history of them being deleted? Am I missing something Iljhgtn (talk) 12:57, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
@Iljhgtn: Oh, I see now. Only Misplaced Pages:Whitewash and Misplaced Pages:Whitewashing were listed for deletion. Misplaced Pages:WHITEWASH and Misplaced Pages:WHITEWASHING weren't tagged or mentioned at all. George Ho, you'll need to follow up on these. I can't delete them out of process as they were never nominated for deletion. ✗plicit 13:00, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
What is different with those? Are they not the same? Iljhgtn (talk) 13:01, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Even so, WP:Whitewash still redirects, when it should not now, correct? Iljhgtn (talk) 13:03, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Flag photo

Would you please restore the local version of File:National flag carried by the 2nd Iowa Infantry throughout the Civil War.jpg? It is ineligible for F8, as I requested that the file be {{keep local}} after I took and while I was uploading it. Thanks, — GodsyCONT) 08:49, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

The keep local tag was removed by Special:Contributions/188.163.69.47, and on a bunch of other files too. I've reverted the ones that haven't been deleted yet, but most have been. Explicit, since you probably deleted them all (at least, you did for all the ones where I looked at the logs), would you rather I compile a list, or undelete them myself as I find them? —Cryptic 09:49, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
@Godsy and Cryptic: Oh, what a naughty IP. I went through their deleted contributions and found that most of their edits that resulted in subtracted bytes to the page were replacing {{keep local}} with {{mtc}}. I've restored a few more files. ✗plicit 11:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
I've restored one more, where {{keep local}} was replaced with {{move to Commons}} and so added bytes instead. —Cryptic 19:55, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Does being tagged with "keep local" mean that a file can't be moved to Commons? Adding "keep local" seems to just be a request that a local copy be kept, not that the file not be moved to Commons, right? A local file that has the same name as a Commons file will be used on Misplaced Pages (it shadows out the Commons file), but the Commons file can still be used by other WMF projects, right? I'm not suggesting the IP was correct in removing the "Keep local" template, but wondering whether the restored files could still be tagged for a move to Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:53, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Keep local}} is a request that a file not be moved to Commons - a move, by definition, means that it won't be in the original place anymore. It can still be copied to Commons. There's a {{copy to Commons}} template specifically for that, though it wouldn't have surprised me if there hadn't been. —Cryptic 01:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
My bad. I meant "copy" to Commons, but thanks for clarifying. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

BOOM Buster Deletion

I'm the creator of the BOOM! Buster draft. I'm also the one who stated my consideration of deleting the draft. I've been meaning to talk to an administrator to delete the draft. 2603:6010:8B00:44FF:445:73B5:78DD:4F8A (talk) 01:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)