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@Peaceray: What I mean is, my picture is of much higher quality in that its resolution/clarity holds up at a much larger size - its file size is almost 5x larger than the current pic's, 1.64 MB versus the current pic being only 340 KB. RangerFanAaron (talk) 01:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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@Drmies: I took a look at a number of Special:Contributions/Prince Deckow Sr.'s warnings. From the several that I examined, the reversions were all unwarranted & all the warnings that Prince Deckow Sr. issue were {{uw-vandalism4im}}. My objective is to repair the harm that Prince Deckow Sr. has done, even if I welcome a few vandals in my haste to rectify any harm done to many innocent IP editors.
My first edit on a red link IP talk page is always one of the Welcome-unregistered templates. If I have reverted an IP edit & one of the non-constructive welcome templates does not apply, I will use {{welcome-anon}} & then add the appropriate warning.
In this case I believe that speed is probably better than accuracy. The vast majority of IP editors make good edits while the rest either make bad edits out of ignorance, are outright vandals, or a pushing a POV. I rather make a mistake welcoming the latter than to leave AGF IP editors with a final warning on their page.
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You did not specify which article from the International Journal of Epidemiology journal you were citing, but based on your additions here & here, this is the article that you were referencing:
Keys, Matthew Thomas; Thinggaard, Mikael; Larsen, Lisbeth Aagaard; Pedersen, Dorthe Almind; Hallas, Jesper; Christensen, Kaare (2022-12-13). "Reassessing the evidence of a survival advantage in Type 2 diabetes treated with metformin compared with controls without diabetes: a retrospective cohort study". International Journal of Epidemiology. 51 (6): 1886–1898. doi:10.1093/ije/dyac200. PMID36287641.
For medical articles, there are additional requirements for citations. One can find these requirements at WP:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) (Shortcut: WP:MEDRS). The section that addresses the citation above is located at WP:MEDRS#Avoid primary sources. Keys et al is what is considered primary because it is a single clinical study. Since the annals of medicine are littered with single clinical studies that are contradictory & sometimes discredited, we look to secondary sources that evaluate multiple primary sources. As WP:MEDPRI states, A reason to avoid primary sources in the biomedical field – especially papers reporting results of in vitro experiments – is that they are often not replicable (see also replication crisis) and are therefore unsuitable for use in generating encyclopedic, reliable biomedical content. This is the default position that editors who prolific edit medical topics thus take.
There is an exception, If conclusions are worth mentioning (such as large randomized clinical trials with surprising results), they should be described appropriately as from a single study. That is followed with the caveat If no reviews on the subject are published in a reasonable amount of time, then the content and primary source should be removed. Even though Keys et al was large (Singleton cohorts were derived from a 5% random sample of the Danish population recorded in the Civil Registration System (CRS) since 1968 and twin cohorts from all twin pairs recorded in the population-based Danish Twin Registry (DTR).), it was published 22 months ago & should have been evaluated by secondary sources by now.
My advice to you would be to open a discussion on the talk page that includes the citation from Keys et al, a statement to the effect that this contradicts other studies in that it finds no evidence of a survival advantage or equalization through Metaformin operation, that it involved a large sample (again, Singleton cohorts were derived from a 5% random sample of the Danish population recorded in the Civil Registration System (CRS) since 1968 and twin cohorts from all twin pairs recorded in the population-based Danish Twin Registry (DTR).), & that you need assistance in finding this covered in systematic reviews, meta-analysis, & review articles. I would invite Bon courage using the {{ping}} template & invite others to the discussion by substituting a {{Please see}} template at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Medicine. The syntax for that would be {{subst:Please see |location= Talk:Metaforin#<whatever you call your section heading>}}.
I was wondering if I could get a spot check from you on a page that has a lot of bias being added to it. The Tanya Woo page has had a few people on both sides add in statements that are biased and unsourced, and I have been working to make sure its as fair and balanced as possible (especially during an election).
I have tried to integrate some of their sentiment were possible so that its not just all my voice in it, but some I have been just reverting and deleting all together. There has been a spike on the page view since ballots hit people's mailboxes, so I want to make sure they are reading a well source, unbiased page.
If there are glaring issues that you see, I am more than happy to make any edits. I am mainly looking for someone who has been doing this for awhile to give a thumbs up.
@Bpuddin: Hi, I am busy for the next several hours but will have a further look when I can. Meanwhile, please open a discussion at Talk:Tanya Woo. 18:08, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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Thank you for the advice. I believe my contributions before becoming an administrator exhibit the qualities you mention above. I aspire to even handedness, an open mind, compassion, & a protection of Misplaced Pages within the guidance of its policies & regulations. On my candidacy page, Conlinp asked if I be willing to undergo recall if the community raised concerns about your conduct as an admin & I responded with an emphatic yes. Peaceray (talk) 17:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
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I am new to being an administrator as of 2024-11-04. We will see if Vaibhav 2005 continues to vandalize once the 31 hours are up.
I have met a few experienced & valuable editors who have said that their first edit was vandalism. One of these became a Wikimedian of the Year. I am loathe to completely block someone indefinitely without giving them a second change. I know their are exceptions to that, but I take them on a case-by-case basis. Peaceray (talk) 18:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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Good morning I am fairly new to Misplaced Pages and I was wondering if you could take a look at my user page and give some feedback on it and if all the information is alright. Some recommendations would also be appreciated. Thank you :D TocaTheFrog (talk) 10:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
@TocaTheFrog: Good Tuesday! There are a couple of things in the Wikitext of version of your user page that I think need tweaking. I would direct you to two resources first.
Now that said, here are two things that I spotted, the first major, the second minor.
Your headings are different from what MOS:GOODHEAD & MOS:SECTIONHEAD recommend for headings. For example, you used = '''<u>Who am I?</u>''' = & == '''<u>Why am I here?</u>''' ==, whereas the preferred format for page headings would be ==Who am I?== & ==Why am I here?==.
Try not to leave newlines between bullet headings. This creates an almost imperceptible greater spacing between *, but if you are using #, then it will restart your numbering sequence.
I hope this is helpful. Fell free to look at the wikitext of this section to see how I formatted things. Also, you can put any shortcut in the search bar to facilitate getting to the associated page. Peaceray (talk) 16:51, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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IP editing issues with an IP you previously blocked.
Good evening to you, Peaceray. I seek your help with a matter concerning an IP you previously blocked, 141.154.49.21. Said IP has removed pertinent news from the Current Events section of the website earlier this evening. I responded by undoing that change, and their response is that they have reverted my change and informed me that "That is not at all how it works, Danegeld".
My change summary stated that "If it's here, then it's relevant." The news item was properly sourced, and I believe that the editor on the end of that change, may have been acting in bad faith, because the edit was about the recognition of the Palestinian state, by Canadian MPs.
I do not know what to do about this, and wondered if this could be (as the last block was set for), a contentious subject, and whether that block prevented the editor from making those changes. It is news, it is current and in my opinion it should be on that page.
Since this isn't the wiki I'm most used to editing, I'd like to ask for advice on how to handle this topic. I recognise it's not every user's "cup of tea", but if it is newsworthy enough that CBC broadcast it, then it's news, isn't it?
Sorry to tie up your talk with this topic, but I hope you can help. Thank you. Dane|Geld
23:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
The material should be restored & 141.154.49.21 warned with {{uw-ewsoft}} or {{uw-ew}}. It is incumbent upon the disagreeing editors then to try to bring the problem editor to talk pages. I emphasize the WP:BRD & WP:VNT essays (& it helps to mention that they are essays). It is important to work your way through the levels of warnings. Being warned via 1st, 2nd, 3rd, & 4th warnings is important when you are landing complaints on WP:AIV. Really, I should have insisted on it before initially blocking. I would also ask for advice at WP:ANI. I think it would be better to involve another administrator(s) at this point. Peaceray (talk) 05:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
It seems I have the serendipity of running into you again! I was looking through a maintenance category and noticed your subscriptions subpage wasn't archiving properly. The specific problem is the |archive= argument isn't set to a valid value. There are a few ways to fix it, but it depends on how you want it to work. If you want it to just create a separate page for every year, you can do the following:
This will create each archive with the page title format "User talk:Peaceray/Subscriptions/Archive year" so that {{Annual archive}} will function as a header for each archive page that detects and lists all the years. Alternatively, if you just want to go the common route where you start counting from 1 and continue counting up from there:
Hi, Peaceray, and congrats; didn't realize you just made admin! I noticed this edit at User talk:141.154.49.21 undoing declining a block appeal, after Fathoms Below pointed out the procedural issue involved. A self-revert is normally okay, but this went further than that. I believe in this case your edit was a violation of WP:TPO for two reasons: first, because your decline had already been responded to (namely, by FB), and secondly, because you not only self-reverted, but you removed another editor's comment (FB's), which is not permitted. (Ironically, the only user who could have legitimately removed FB's post is IP 141 themself, per WP:OWNTALK—but note that this does not also apply to the possibility of IP removing *your* post, which would have been excluded by the exception that forbids users from removing declined block appeals.) The way this should have been handled, imho, is that instead of removing your own post, you should have WP:REDACTed it by <s> striking it out </s>, and then <u> adding new, underlined comments </u> to explain the reason for the redaction. Had FB not responded before you changed your mind about the decline, you could have just self-reverted; but not after there was a follow-up comment replying to yours. HTH, and best of luck with the mop! Mathglot (talk) 07:55, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
@Mathglot: Yes, you are correct & I will use the strikethough moving forward. Still new to adminship, so I will inevitably make mistakes while learning my way around. Thank you for your feedback! Peaceray (talk) 17:50, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
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Could you please look into why cus I couldn't find anything as there is no info I can find and also I saw something on tea house a few months ago of blocking India idk details and the block is 2 years😶 Yaboibro! (talk) 07:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Deletion of quotation from Margaret Sanger on Margaret Sanger page
Greetings Peaceray. I'm always glad for constructive criticism; I don't want to overlook things. To assist me in not making such a mistake in the future, can you tell me where on the Margaret Sanger page it is that "if you had truely read the full article, would have seen that the fuller (& correct quote) was already in . . ." (reference given). I looked at that reference and didn't find it. I did a text search for the phrase "her goal was to eliminate the Negro race" that was in my quote in didn't find it; yet you said I would find it if I read the full article.
I want to be a better, and fair, contributor to Misplaced Pages. To that end, can you tell me what I am doing wrong so that I missed the quote that you said was there, on the Sanger page? Chronic2 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:34, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
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Moved to Talk:Orson Welles § Orson Welles Sources Remain, With Content Removed – Peaceray (talk) 18:16, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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