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Sources

Only sources specificaly about Mangione.

Feature stories and in-depth articles

About the period in the months and weeks before the event

Career, video games, books

Published before the event

—Alalch E. 16:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Declined submission

@Alalch E. You've provided WP:PERPETRATOR as the reason for declining the submission, however, you seem to ignore WP:SPINOUT and the article size concerns it mentions. It's very likely with the volume of sources covering this person, their life, and the manifesto they wrote, that this article will simply continue to expand and be a burden on the main killing article that presently exists. I'm very close to simply doing a copy/paste move and then requesting a history merge. —Locke Cole • t • c 18:38, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

We're not even close to the point where size plays a role because the event article is thankfully still pretty compact, and it can accommodate much more infornation about Mangione. In the future, when size becomes a real concern editors might decide to spin Mangione out into a standalone biography. Currently, this draft isn't a biography, it's a pseudo-biography and a redundant fork, with all the information already in the event article. —Alalch E. 19:03, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I've expanded the article significantly and the article is now more bigger and has more information than the killing article. PopularGames (talk) 22:51, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
I support making this article. Mangione meets the notability requirements and has enough reliable sources regarding him. However, if this article is made, the suspect section in Killing of Brian Thompson should be shortened a lot EarthDude (talk) 07:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
@EarthDude: Then please start a WP:PROSPLIT discussion on Talk:Killing of Brian Thompson, because your idea is precisely splitting. We need to take into account that the content about the suspect in the parent article is much better written (due to being scrutinized by hundreds of thousands of readers and hundreds of editors -- 482 distinct authors, unlike this draft) while being similarly detailed. The extra detail found here wouldn't survive the long in the scenario of this draft becoming article; such non-encyclopedic detail includes "37,000$ per year" and "fixed 300 bugs". This means that the content should be spun out from the killing article into the suspect's biography article (see WP:SPINOUT and Misplaced Pages:Summary style#Technique) instead of simply promoting this draft into an article and removing content about the same from the killing article. The latter would result in inferior content being retained. Ultimately, this draft can be simply ignored, as the question of whether there will be a Luigi Mangione article is not in any way tied to the fate of this draft. —Alalch E. 15:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Lyme disease neurologic and/or psychiatric symptoms

Although many  patients will improve with appropriate treatment, others will  experience ongoing Lyme disease symptoms that may stay with them years or forever, including impaired cognitive function, with several neurologic and/or psychiatric symptoms, debilitating depression, paranoia, dementia, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, panic attacks, major depression, anorexia nervosa, and obsessive-compulsive disorder.

Luigi Mangione lawyer might use as defense that his mental state was altered because he had brain fog and mental complication due to his Lyme disease.

Mangione detailed on Reddit past posts that he had struggles with health issues including Lyme disease and severe brain fog, which he said started after losing sleep during his fraternity’s “hell week” and caused his college grades to start “tanking.” He expressed frustration about how little was understood by the medical community about brain fog, writing that “it’s absolutely brutal to have such a life-halting issue… The people around you probably won’t understand your symptoms - they certainly don’t for me.”

I never got the impression he would self-destruct:’ Friends of suspect in fatal CEO shooting left in shock CNN Retrieved 10 Decembre 2024

What is spondylolisthesis, the back condition that derailed Luigi Mangione’s life? Los Angeles Times Retrieved 11 December

Questioning the role of Lyme disease in the case of Luigi Mangione Lyme Disease Org 12 December 2024 KamiroVolta (talk) 21:36, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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