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In France, Dominique Pelicot and 49 other men are convicted of the mass rape of his ex-wife Gisèle Pelicot: It seems ambiguous whether:

1. She was his ex-wife during the rapes
2. She was his ex-wife at the time of the conviction

As they were married during the rapes, and they were married for 40+ years, I'd suggest rewording to ... convicted of the mass rape of his ex-wifelongtime wife Gisèle Pelicot, which reads fine regardless of whether the reader associates wife with the conviction or the rapes.—Bagumba (talk) 09:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

You honestly think longtime wife is better? Stephen 10:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Better than misleading those not familiar with the case that he was stalking his then ex-wife and raping her. No, they were married at the time. —Bagumba (talk) 11:02, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

FWIW, I saw "longtime" used by NPR: "Dominique Pelicot, Gisele's longtime husband". They were divorced for a short time before remarrying each other again. —Bagumba (talk) 11:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't think it's particularly bad as it is, but if you want it to be less ambiguous, the clear answer is to use "then-wife" instead of "ex-wife" or "longtime wife". 2A0A:EF40:983:DB01:D680:176D:8074:450C (talk) 11:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Or France 24 used "now ex-wife Gisèle Pelicot"—Bagumba (talk) 11:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

"then-wife" is preferable, "now ex-wife" is acceptable, "longtime wife" to my ears has issues of tone. DuncanHill (talk) 12:10, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

"then-wife" is certainly an improvement over the existing plain "ex-wife", so I'd be OK with that. —Bagumba (talk) 13:06, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Futhermore, as noted at Talk:Mazan rapes#Requested move 11 December 2024, "mass rape" redirects to Mass sexual assault, which is defined there as: "... collective sexual assault of women, men and sometimes children, in public by groups". Don't know if there is anything more suitable. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:15, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I agree that mass-rape does not seem right. I have been wondering why it’s not stated as a serial rape. Schwede66 14:16, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I think that would be much less misleading. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I have changed to serial rape of his then-wife, as this was suggested at ITNC too. Stephen 22:14, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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"that David Green published more than 200 research papers before his 18th birthday" - not seeing this in the target article which only says "In 2008, when Green was aged 72, a number of his former students, colleagues and collaborators published a collected volume of research papers 'in honour of the work of David Headley Green on the occasion of his 18th birthday, 29 February 2008'; a reference to his leap year birthday". I know the last main page hook is a quirky one, but this one is misleading to say the least. Brandmeister 18:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

@Chaiten1 I think this one is for you. RoySmith (talk) 23:16, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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