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Misleading statement about ADL history

The lead section says that the ADL:

”…has received criticism, including from members of its staff, that such advocacy has diverted ADL from its historical fight against antisemitism.”

The links show recent ADL member statements (years 2023/2024), but the (scholarly) “criticisms” that *do not* “includ” ADL “members” date back over *half a century*, which is long enough to consider that the ADL has *historically* used accusations of anti-semitism to stifle criticism of Israel & related US policy.

E.g. Perplexity AI writes that:

In the 1983 book *The Fateful Triangle*, Noam Chomsky critiques the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) for its role in suppressing dissent regarding U.S. and Israeli policies. He argues that the ADL employs tactics reminiscent of Stalinist methods to silence critics, labeling them as anti-Semitic to undermine their credibility. Chomsky emphasizes that this defamation campaign stifles honest discussion about Israel's actions and U.S. complicity, suggesting that it serves to protect a narrative that avoids confronting uncomfortable truths about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Citations: https://chomsky.info/dissent01/ https://en.wikipedia.org/The_Fateful_Triangle https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/03064228608534170 https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1984/08/16/chomskys-fateful-triangle-an-exchange/ https://en.wikipedia.org/Linguistics_of_Noam_Chomsky https://chomsky.info/fateful01/ https://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/7/a_hideous_atrocity_noam_chomsky_on https://www.perplexity.ai/elections/2024-11-05/us/president 2601:645:8500:7B70:20B7:C7A0:DD97:2D92 (talk) 22:07, 5 December 2024 (UTC)


In other words, I would like to suggest two edits:

1) To the phrase “ADL is also known for its pro-Israel advocacy” add “and weaponization of anti-semitism.

2) Change

A)

”It has received criticism, including from members of its staff…”

to

B)

”It has received criticism since 1983, including from members of its staff…” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:8500:7B70:CC82:8A93:EFDC:2FCF (talk) 01:50, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

ADL regards Amnesty International’s genocide conclusion as antisemitic

In order to include this important fact (which you can confirm on the ADL’s X account), I suggest changing:

“ADL has advanced the concept of new antisemitism, including a definition that says anti-Zionism and some criticisms of Israel are antisemitic.”

To something like:

”ADL has advanced the concept of new antisemitism; defining anti-Zionism and some criticisms of Israel as antisemitic—including Amnesty International’s conclusion that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.” 2601:645:8500:7B70:8164:C33A:439:3D16 (talk) 01:48, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done. We need sources. But a google search makes me suspect this occurrence isn't notable enough (or covered in enough RS) to merit that kind of prominence in the lede of the article. ByVarying | talk 23:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Inaccuracy in 1st paragraph of lead section. Add “to a lesser extent”

I asked Perplexity Pro:

Is the phrase “was founded to combat antisemitism, as well as other forms of bigotry and discrimination” more or less appropriate than “was founded to combat antisemitism, as well as to a lesser extent other forms of bigotry and discrimination.”

This was the answer:

Based on the search results and the historical context of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the phrase "was founded to combat antisemitism, as well as to a lesser extent other forms of bigotry and discrimination" is more appropriate and accurate than the version without "to a lesser extent."

This assessment is supported by several key points:

1. **Original mission**: The ADL was founded in 1913 specifically to combat antisemitism. Its initial focus was clearly on addressing issues affecting Jewish people.

2. **Dual mission statement**: The ADL's mission statement, "to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment to all," places primary emphasis on combating antisemitism.

3. **Historical development**: While the ADL has expanded its scope over time, its core focus has remained on antisemitism. Other forms of bigotry and discrimination were addressed as secondary concerns that aligned with its primary mission.

4. **Resource allocation**: A significant portion of ADL's resources and efforts are still directed towards tracking and combating antisemitism, such as the annual Audit of Antisemitic Incidents.

5. **Evolving focus**: The organization has gradually expanded its work to include other forms of discrimination, but this expansion occurred over time and was not the initial focus.

Including the phrase "to a lesser extent" more accurately reflects the ADL's historical priorities and development. It acknowledges the organization's primary focus on combating antisemitism while also recognizing its efforts in addressing other forms of bigotry and discrimination.

This phrasing provides a more precise representation of the ADL's mission and activities, aligning with its historical context and current operations.

Citations: https://amistad-finding-aids.tulane.edu/agents/corporate_entities/411 https://ajhs.org/our-collections/the-adl-archives-project/ https://www.adl.org/about/who-we-are https://en.wikipedia.org/Anti-Defamation_League https://www.britannica.com/topic/Anti-Defamation-League https://www.adl.org/who-we-are/history https://michigan.adl.org/about/ https://www.adl.org/about/mission-and-history https://newengland.adl.org/about-adl-new-england/ https://www.adl.org/who-we-are/our-mission 2601:645:8500:7B70:E92B:8355:DDA9:1A00 (talk) 02:45, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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