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Please help me with an article which have three sources. Primary source is a data, Secondary source is a news paper article to explain the primary source data & tertiary source is also news paper article to explain the primary source but misused of primary source

use of Primary & Secondary source artical look like ==>> the Scheduled Castes at 16.6 per cent and Scheduled Tribes at 8.6 per cent, the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes together make up 25 per cent of India's population according to the 2011 census.

if use of tertiary source than artical look like ==>> the Scheduled Castes at 16.6 per cent and Scheduled Tribes at 8.6 per cent, the Dalits and Adivasis together make up 25 per cent of India's population according to the 2011 census.

The above two article diffrence in a words Scheduled Castes & Scheduled Tribes (primary scource).tertiary source use Dalit & Adivasi(According to Primary scource) but (Primary scource data publish Scheduled Castes & Scheduled Tribes data)

please help me how to correct this article follow the Misplaced Pages protocol

Main article Dalit

Thanks Bongan →TalkToMe← 11:23, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

You should discuss that at the article's talk page, Talk:Dalit. However, when the Times of India uses "Scheduled Castes" and "Dalits" interchangeably, I don't think it's appropriate to second-guess it. Since this is the article about the Dalits, we could probably omit the census and the Indian Express, as well as the mention of Adivasis, and simply cite the ToI for the number of Dalits. Huon (talk) 19:29, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

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Incorrect speedy deletion nominations and careless tagging

I have declined your recent speedy-delete nominations of the following pages:

and User:GB fan has declined your speedy nomination of Karkare. None of these pages fit any of the speedy deletion criterion you had cited. While Dhananjay Jadhav could plausibly be merged into Police Commissioner of Mumbai following proper discussion, the rest are clearly notable and will easily survive AFD). I have also removed your tagging of the articles with numerous inapplicable tags; if you wish to re-add any of them, please justify the tagging on the concerned article talk page. Please be more careful in the future. Abecedare (talk) 12:11, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

I have to agree, I looked at Afghan Church that you added 6 maintenance tags. I removed 3 of them as they do not appear to be valid at all. The other 3 are also questionable but have left them for now. Tagging articles like that without any explanation does not help anyone. When you tag an article like that unless it is obvious, like unreferenced, you should explain why you are tagging the article. The rest of us may not see what you see. -- GB fan 14:31, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Additionally, I have removed your warnings about creating inappropriate pages from User talk:Jibin net. If a warning is required there should only have been one. Escalating warnings such as the ones you left should only be given if the editor continues to do the same behavior after receiving earlier warnings. In this case these were all created before your your initial warning. -- GB fan 14:42, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

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Ronakshah1990, Thanks for msg and I appreciate your contributions but your edit like deleting some article & image to without any reason and many edits in unreliable sources page article pls try to improve to add ref. Misplaced Pages is not a advertisement, dictionary & promotion site or writing your own article. I thing u are not follow Misplaced Pages protocol WP:5P WP:NPOV and supporting to write adverting & promotion article WP:NOT. The above your eg edited article & other article be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions or remove shortly WP:IRS WP:NOR verifiable.. suggestion==> How to talk to other users WP:5P4, How to Signing your posts on talk pages WP:SIG, How to edit a page H:EDIT, How to develop articles WP:DEV Bongan →TalkToMe← 14:18, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Please refer a dictionary before you do anything else

Hey! If you do not understand English or have no knowledge of the article being talked about, please refer a dictionary or an encyclopaedia, before you go undoing other peoples efforts. If this is how you type "I thing u are not follow Misplaced Pages protocol", then it is very evident that you wouldn't understand the intricacies of a language, because you can't seem to grasp the very basics. I suggest you let other pages be, or at least research and read some before you go around waving your magic wand supposedly correcting "errors". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronakshah1990 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

This Language called html. Your edit improve now using Edit summary H:ES but repeating same mistake here deleting not the way to improve Misplaced Pages pls discuss first on talk page when you delete some thing. I am recover old Jag Mandir Image remove by 117.192.203.188 (talk)

suggestion==> How to talk other users WP:5P4, How to Signing your posts on talk pages WP:SIG, How to edit a page H:EDIT Bongan →TalkToMe← 18:28, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

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Add: In general, be more careful in leaving warning messages. For example here are the copyedits User:Ronakshah1990 performed to the Afghan Church article, for which you left them a completely inapproriate warning. You then defended your actions twice above. This is not ok and needs to stop. Abecedare (talk) 19:28, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

And today you also warned Ronak for this 4-month old edit in which they copyedited the article and removed redundant information. Occassional errors of this sort are understandable but you should be more careful. Abecedare (talk) 19:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

You warned me too a few days ago. I have no idea what you were talking about. Heaven knows how many others have been inappropriately warned like this. - Kautilya3 (talk) 20:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

@Mz7 Thanks for you msg I understand (Especially with new editors), I think User:Ronakshah1990 main pro is (in short) not using Edit summary.

@Abecedare copyedits or practice wikipedia editing Yes then I am send warn notification to user . defended or Reply its your opinion. Deleting Images 2 time & . Yes today I am also warned same user for article deleted without any reason. (4-month old edit page article is a redundant information)hmm (Afghan Church)hmm.

@Kautilya3 Thank for reply. I think you not watching page difference history an undo it and send warn msg to

1. Deleted ref by mistake @Ghatus (After Discuss you re added it).

2. @Journojp Adding Hindi language without any source & if some user add Gujarati, Tamil & Other Languages to without any source you will agree.Thank You Bongan →TalkToMe← 23:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

(Note;- Ronakshah1990 Total edits (including deleted): 467, Main: 455 (97.43%), Talk: 5 (1.07%), User talk: 5 (1.07%), Misplaced Pages: 2 (0.43%), First edit: Feb 19, 2012 04:04:35)--Bongan →TalkToMe← 04:50, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok, now I understand. When there is an issue to be discussed such as "the mention of the Hindi language needs a source", it is best to state that, either in the edit summary or on the article talk page. Giving a non-descriptive warning message is not going to achieve anything. Warning messages should be used either for new users who may not know the Misplaced Pages policies or to users who are being disruptive. For this particular issue, however, sources are needed in the lead only for contentious issues. The fact that dalit means oppressed in most Indian languages is common knowledge, hardly contentious. - Kautilya3 (talk) 09:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015

Hi Bongan. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for Kepler-421, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. I find that the "no context" criterion is widely misunderstood. The article must give no clue whatsoever as to what it's subject actually is. "Kepler-421 is a star" establishes what the subject is, therefore making it ineligible for deletion as having no context. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers, criteria for speedy deletion, and particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion or proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. Thanks! Beeblebrox (talk) 17:12, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Additionally, III (single/ep) was also a bad tagging. How can "III is the third EP from American singer, songwriter and actress, Jojo" be anything but indicating a specific subject of the article? C628 (talk) 04:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Tagging of The Needle Drop

Hi Bongan. I've removed all the tags you placed on The Needle Drop article -- when it comes to an article having so many issues, it's best to discuss and elaborate what these are on the article's talk page, especially when you believe that there are issues of NPOV and whatnot. Thanks! not (talk/contribs) 14:36, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

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Removing Jaat word from Jat page

Hi. Why you remove this word ?? I added this word with full proofs and even i am also jaat so i know it with proof. Why you remove it any reason?????? or you are free to do anything????? Prashant 015 (talk) 09:10, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

@Prashant 015 I am already give a reason in Jat people Talk page pls see. Thank You,--Bongan →TalkToMe← 09:43, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Stifle, Yes I am remove #redirect Narendra Malla page to Naresha Malla page because Narendra Malla & Naresha Malla not same person they are two different king in different year. Narendra Malla (1538 – 1560) king in Nepal & Naresha Malla (1637 to 1644) king in Nepal if u see in edit summary I give a reason already --Bongan →TalkToMe← 14:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

@BDD:, Thanks for Narendra Malla page deleted --Bongan →TalkToMe← 20:11, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for guidance i will remember adding summary next time Mukhaiyar (talk) 21:42, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

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User:Ashvawiki was the one who removed the article content from Maurya Empire. I tried to restore the content with some compromise. So what I did was clearly constructive, i.e. to restore most content from his deletion. But I am certainly fine with your reversion to the edition before Ashvawiki's edit too. Thanks for your understanding. --Cartakes (talk) 23:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Cartakes I noticed that you made a change to an | article, Self Made without ref. & I drop a new notice please see the referencing for beginners for future constructive work.--Bongan →TalkToMe← 09:06, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Re: Angela Nazar

Hello, I'm Msvpicture. Thank you for your help Bongan, I'm very appreciate it. I'm beginner in this wikipedia, can you help me for create Biographies of Living Persons? I don't know how to put Biographies of Living Persons in new article. I create Aryanto Yuniawan but seems like Wiki know that this is duplicate content. I just copy from IMDB because this reliable source. Thank you for your help Bongan, I'm waiting for your replay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msvpictures (talk • contribs) 02:21, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Jhargram Palace

Hello Bongan please stop 'accusing' Vmalladeb he is the owner of Jhargram Palace he updated information on the page but you reverted to revision 669795520 saying there id no match with references .I suggest please read the references properly before deleting or putting such allegations.Now I have updated version 669795520 please don't revert as I have put sourced contents with proper references which doesn't contravene Misplaced Pages policy on verifiability.Primary source is news paper article , Secondary source is data and blogs.This is a polite request.Thanks. —Preceding undated comment added 14:42, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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Prolumbo

Thank you for the information you provided. It will really help me. You have tagged the Audio Therapy article with a message that it requires more citations. I have never had this before on any of my articles. Though, after reading the guidelines about over citing, I did drop down for this one. Could you let me know which paragraphs need more citations? It is hard for me to see. Many thanks. --Prolumbo (talk) 13:45, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

@Prolumbo:,Thank for reply you are added Not a verifiable source in Audio therapy (medicine). Misplaced Pages; requires reliable and verifiable sources as per WP:RS & WP:V. I see Kavdiamanju already give a suggestion in your talk page (Add online references). Thank You --Bongan →TalkToMe← 14:12, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

It is worrying to me that almost every post on this page consists of warning you, correcting you, or firmly advising you to be cautious. Every reference on that article is verifiable, all are cited from literature relevant to its subject. And the speed with which you posted the template after it was posted indicates that you could not possibly have given the article anything more than cursory attention. If you can pin point those references that you claim are unverifiable, then I will happily replace them. I think that is a fair and civil challenge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prolumbo (talk • contribs) 14:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

I not think sources are reliable and verifiable but if you add online ref. to your articles its help for verify. Remember, "Comment on content, not on the contributor." --Bongan →TalkToMe← 20:37, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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FYI... You don't add the colon in an ISBN. To see the difference, here is the same ISBN, but one with and one without a colon:

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@Bgwhite: Oops Sorry, Thanks For Help.--Bongan →TalkToMe← 09:58, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

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@Omg56: pls see List of massacres in India talk page.--Bongan →TalkToMe← 22:08, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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Kamarupa

Kamarupa has nothing to do with Bengal History. So please do not add the template there. Chaipau (talk) 12:06, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

@Chaipau: Yes Kamarupa at its height covered the entire Brahmaputra Valley, North Bengal, northern part of Bangladesh, and West Bengal. Its already mention in page. Bongan →TalkToMe← 12:45, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

You may add the History of Bengal template in North Bengal, Sylhet etc. which were part of Kamarupa, but you cannot put the History of Bengal template on Kamarupa. Chaipau (talk) 13:08, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Bongan, I think you're a Bengali person; if you Bengali then why don't contributing on Bengali Misplaced Pages! I am Sorry of my suggestion. Sorry! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:9185:130E:0:0:285:C8B1 (talk) 18:56, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes this is a very good suggestion and I entirely support this. I believe Bongan has lack of strong English skills, in that case it is better to contribute in Bengali wikipedia as he has a stronger language skills in Bengali. Please think about it. --DBig Xrayᗙ 20:29, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

User:2405:204:9185:130E:0:0:285:C8B1 Thanks for suggestion, but I am not Bengali Bongan →TalkToMe← 07:10, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

User:DBigXray how you know I have a stronger language skills in Bengali or not? Bongan →TalkToMe← 07:32, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

You have mentioned this in your Userpage, that you have native/expert level skills in Bengali.--DBig Xrayᗙ 07:35, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

In page also added Marathi and Hindi why suggested only Bengali than or because of Category:User *-N ? Bongan →TalkToMe← 08:08, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

yes, You have mentioned that becuse your user page says, এ ব্যবহারকারীর বাংলা ভাষার উপরে মাতৃভাষার মতন ধারণা রয়েছে। which google translates to "This user has the same concept as mother language on Bangla language." so you are saying that you have the best grip on Bengali, as compared to other languages. But after all this is just a suggestion, and my personal opinion. regards --DBig Xrayᗙ 12:14, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Bongan! Hope you don't mind me asking here but I saw you speak mr and was wondering if you could take a look at something for me on mrwiktionary. I am a global sysop and while patrolling and removing spam I came across some mass entries that appear to have been part of a coordinated event but look badly translated and out of scope. The content for one reads: (FUEL) कार्यशाळेने संगणक प्रणालीं करिता प्रमाणित शब्द :कप्प्यातील माहिती which according to google translates roughly as "certified workshop word for computer systems" which leads back to this which is certainly out of scope and promotional but I wanted to get a native speaker's opinion before moving forward at Meta. Thanks! Praxidicae (talk) 18:20, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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