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Yellowstone National Park is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.

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March 12, 2004	Featured article candidate	Promoted
May 2, 2007	Featured article review	Kept
May 8, 2007	Featured topic candidate	Not promoted
June 10, 2023	Featured article review	Demoted
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 19 January 2022 and 20 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Lgenn03, FaithMildfelt (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Rileysteg, Alli St. John, Emmjohnson.

Fort Yellowstone

I currently live in Mammoth Hot Springs and I just wanted to point out that this article's photo of "Fort Yellowstone" actually depicts the General Store and the Terrace Grill, not the historical Fort. I'd love to see it replaced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.151.75.66 (talk) 21:13, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the information! That is interesting! Eruditess (talk) 23:24, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Image swapped out with older image of Fort. Mike Cline (talk) 12:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Featured article review needed

This is a 2004 promotion that was reviewed back in 2007 and needs work. The main issues are:

Citations. There are multiple paragraphs that are completely uncited. There are also countless unsourced sentences.
Manual of style: Many images violate WP:SANDWICH, and there are also some weasel terms/words.
Relevance: A lot of information needs to be updated. A big part of all references is pre-2010. Information about visitors also needs to be updated.

This article is about one of the most important National Parks, and keeping its vital status (viewed >1m times/year) would be a significant achievement. Wretchskull (talk) 11:18, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

While a maintenance update may be warranted, you do realize that individual sentences need not be sourced, and that the historical scholarship hasn't advanced much since 2010? Acroterion (talk) 13:14, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Acroterion: Upon a closer look, you're right. But to have a featured article with completely uncited paragraphs seems rather peculiar. Wretchskull (talk) 22:31, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, that needs to be fixed, probably the result of 14 years of minor edits. Acroterion (talk) 22:50, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

We are old timers here so to someone that started editing a couple years ago 2007 must seem like the stone ages.--MONGO (talk) 23:30, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Wretchskull and MONGO: Wretchskull, I realize you are new to WP:FAR, so wanted to let you know that MONGO is the main author of so many older FAs, that it would not be possible for him to update all of them at once; we are trying to keep in mind that editors of many older FAs need time to work. I believe (??) he is working on Glacier next.

MONGO, this one is in much worse shape than Glacier, and considerable updates will eventually be needed. Not only is a lot of it uncited, but information needs to be checked to be sure it is current and as of dates are given. It looks like this one got hit by student editing. I think I got all of the MOS:SANDWICH. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

It's really popular with student editors, so I'm not surprised that it has more issues. I'll see what I can do. Acroterion (talk) 23:06, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I can’t be much help because my computer is in repair and I am hunting and pecking from an iPad, but everything that is cited to the National Parks should be brought up to their latest version, and any data that might have changed needs checking (things like numbers of animals, number of visitors, etc). Thx! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

PS, Acroterion students are specifically requested to NOT edit featured articles ... if it happens again, you can contact the Wiki Ed staff person in the student template, and they will call them off. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:10, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I mean more along the lines of informal student editors, who've read about or done an assignment concerning Yellowstone, and then arrive here. There's not much individual harm, but the cumulative effect is evident. Acroterion (talk) 23:57, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Wanted to mention that this article was brought to FA by someone other than myself, namely Mav in 2004, before I even started editing here. 18 years is a long time so yes, this article probably needs a major update but no way I can do that in the near term.--MONGO (talk) 15:57, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Map in infobox

For a park of this size, having a single point mark its location within Wyoming isn't really adequate. Would anyone be opposed to adding an outline map of Yellowstone in place of the current map, similar to Park County, Wyoming? Mysteryman blue 02:08, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

John Colter, fire and brimstone

The following paragraph is in the History section:

In 1806, John Colter, a member of the Lewis and Clark Expedition, left to join a group of fur trappers. After splitting up with the other trappers in 1807, Colter passed through a portion of what later became the park, during the winter of 1807–1808. He observed at least one geothermal area in the northeastern section of the park, near Tower Fall. After surviving wounds he suffered in a battle with members of the Crow and Blackfoot tribes in 1809, Colter described a place of "fire and brimstone" that most people dismissed as delirium; the supposedly mystical place was nicknamed "Colter's Hell". Over the next 40 years, numerous reports from mountain men and trappers told of boiling mud, steaming rivers, and petrified trees, yet most of these reports were believed at the time to be myth.

I don't see support in either of these two sources for the claims that people didn't believe Colter, nor that Colter was wounded or fought in a battle, nor that people believed the other reports to be myth. The phrase "fire and brimstone" is also absent from both sources. This is concerning, as it is a featured article.

References

Haines, Aubrey L. (2000). "The Lewis and Clark Era (1805–1814)". Yellowstone National Park: Its Exploration and Establishment. U.S. Department of the Interior. Archived from the original on October 15, 2006. Retrieved November 14, 2006.
Haines, Aubrey L. (2000). "The Fur Trade Era (1818–42)". Yellowstone National Park: Its Exploration and Establishment. U.S. Department of the Interior. Archived from the original on October 15, 2006. Retrieved November 15, 2006.

—Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 02:52, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

yellowstone being the " first " national park in the world

Sirs

Not only is the claim wrong but misleads the readers by the assertion of being the world's first national park. This title belongs to Mongolia who in the 1700's made an area in their country a national park pre dating the yellowstone's status by some 100 years Please amend the error and correct the article accordingly 188.29.193.19 (talk) 09:15, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Source? Acroterion (talk) 12:11, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

What is the NAME of this park? All the parks listed in List of national parks of Mongolia were established in the late 20th century. A name would help resolve this. Mike Cline (talk) 17:38, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

See: Bogd Khan Uul Biosphere Reserve (which includes source reference citations) for some details about the claim of it being the world's first national park. GeoWriter (talk) 17:22, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Just wanna say that t

his article needs to be updated.Please help update this article to reflect recent events or newly available information. 152.166.156.103 (talk) 15:28, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Question: Do you know which is the climate of Yellowstone National Park? 152.166.156.103 (talk) 15:50, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Useless map

The map of the park has geographic features and some unidentified cadastral lines. With no boundary or natural object named you cannot tell where the park boundaries are or where it sits in relation to the States it is in. In other words unless you already know all about it - it is useless. 116.251.32.210 (talk) 07:12, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

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