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June 1

Xbox

Per such discussions as the one below.--Mike Selinker 14:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Oppose rename of Xbox Live, support rename of Xbox 360. Xbox live is an online service, and therefore there are not exactly "games" for the feature, as would be expected.--WaltCip 17:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Xbox live category, rename 360 category. Don't need a category for those who play Xbox live, a category for that would only facilitate collaboration on 1 more article than its parent category, so it is unnecessary. Don't upmerge, since both regular Xbox and Xbox 360 use Xbox live and there isn't any way to know which applies to each user. VegaDark (talk) 23:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, VegaDark (talk) 19:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Nintendo

Per such discussions as the one below.--Mike Selinker 14:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Unlike the other consoles, "Nintendo" does not appear to be part of the name "Wii". I think "play the Wii" is more correct than "play Wii", as in the article. –Pomte 01:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, VegaDark (talk) 19:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians by number of edits

(Relisted due to additional tagging 2 days into the discussion) - jc37 19:10, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Note: "...5,000 edits" has already been deleted as empty by User:Anthony Appleyard. - jc37 22:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Note 2: Now all target categories listed, as well as Category:Wikipedians with over 5000 edits, Category:Wikipedians with fewer than 5000 edits, Category:Wikipedians with more than 5000 edits, and Category:Wikipedians by edit count have been tagged with the proposition to delete all edit count categories being brought up. VegaDark (talk) 19:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


May 31

Category:User iu...

Nonsense babel category. "These users wish to speak Inuktitut". Essentially a 0-level category, since this is for people who don't speak the language at all. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Userpages under construction

"A category for people who feel that they don't have a completed userpage. Yet." - We don't need a category for this. Nobody is going to have a reason to go looking for userpages that are under construction. Looks like the category was created simply for the sake of being associated with the template. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:User ot

Category:User ot-1

Category:User ot-2

Category:User ot-3

Category:User ot-4

Category:User ot-5

"These users would like to be able to speak more languages", "This user would like to be able to speak many more languages", etc. etc. Knowing who wants to speak more languages is not useful to Misplaced Pages at all. The only possible useful one is the last one, stating "This user is a professional translator of one or more languages". It isn't all that helpful without knowing what languages they translate, however, and such a category shouldn't be in the babel system if deemed keepable.

Category:User rot13

Category:User rot13-2

Category:User rot13-3

Category:User rot13-4

Category:User rot13-5

Don't need categories for this invented language. There will never be a Misplaced Pages written in ROT13, nobody will ever have a use for going through such categories to find people. Category:User rot13-1 does not currently exist, but this should set precedent for that category as well. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

May 30

Category:Wikipedian edit archive

Rename Category:Wikipedian edit archive to Category:Lists of Wikipedians by number of edits - Following "Lists of..." naming convention. - jc37 22:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedian bassists

Delete as redundant to Category:Wikipedian bass guitarists, which is used to disambiguate against Category:Wikipedian double bassists. –Pomte 16:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:User Hrkt-0.5

Nonsense babel category level, only whole numbers please. VegaDark (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:User en-sg-2.5

Nonsense babel category level, only whole numbers please. VegaDark (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:User en-6

No 6-level categories, please. Says the same exact thing for 5-level, and should be merged. VegaDark (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians who don't own automobiles

Classic "not" category. Categorizing by things we don't own does not help Misplaced Pages in any way. VegaDark (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete as nom. VegaDark (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - The category text implies that these users are interested in Template:Sustainability and Energy Development, but that's not necessarily the case given the userbox text. –Pomte 00:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - The ubx was modelled on the {{User Sustainable Living}} ubx. The green background and earth were meant to signify interest in Sustainable living. --DieWeibeRose 20:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
  • If Rename is a permissible vote, I so vote, else my vote is Delete. My problem isn't so much with the category itself as the negative and indirect framing of the category name. If we're going to categorise Wikipedians, the meaning of the categorisation should be affirmative and direct, not based on the implications of the category. And ideally as short as possible. Category:Carless Wikipedians or Category:Wikipedians who practise sustainable living would be good by me, but not the name the category currently holds. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 7Kim (talk • contribs) 1 June 2007.
    • "Carless Wikipedians" would still be a "not" category. VegaDark (talk) 01:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
      • I'm not so sure; there are nots and nots. It seems to me a little simplistic to say "The name contains a negator (e.g. non- or -less) and the category is therefore a 'not'-category." Category:Non-redhead Wikipedians is unacceptable on its face; Category:Wikipedians who practise non-western medicine is clearly acceptable. And does either its (approximate) synonymy with Category:Wikipedians who do not enjoy sex or the negator a- render Category:Asexual Wikipedians invalid? If one becomes listed under Category:Carless Wikipedians it is because one has made a point of not owning a car, either by manually categorising oneself or by using a template that automatically does so (that is, it is an opt-in category); so the category becomes limited to those who do not drive cars for an articulable reason. A similar argument applies to non-smokers. If there is, for example, an articulable difference between "non-smokers" and "people who do not smoke" (and I feel there is -- that "non-smokers" have made a conscious choice to reject smoking whereas "people who do not smoke" may simply have never taken up the habit), then it's not quite so obvious that Category:Non-smoking Wikipedians is a not-category. I'm not arguing against avoiding not-categories, just against using that principle as a mechanical rule rather than a guideline that alerts us to cases that then must be judged on their own merits.
        • --7Kim 08:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
          • We allow some "not" categories, but only ones that are beneficial to the encyclopedia. For instance, Category:Wikipedians who don't wish to become administrators. The whole reasoning behind having the "not" category rule is that not categories almost always do not help Misplaced Pages in any way. For instance, it does not help Misplaced Pages in any way to know who does not own a car, or who does not smoke. It doesn't help Misplaced Pages to know who consciously made the decision to not smoke. It does, on the other hand, help to know who is interested in topics that have enough articles for such people to collaborate on. If a "not" category can help Misplaced Pages, then I wouldn't mind it existing, and I don't think categories are mechanically nominated just because they are a not category. The whole purpose of user categories is to improve the encyclopedia, which I believe this category does not, under any name. VegaDark (talk) 18:53, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
            • Very well, then. If what you're saying is that utility to Misplaced Pages is the criterion for distinguishing a not worthy of keeping from a not worthy of deletion, then there's no further need to discuss the not question here -- lack of utility to Misplaced Pages is a stronger and more interesting objection that can justify deletion on its own. --7Kim 18:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - There is a Non-smoking Wikipedians category. Is that a "Classic 'not' category"? I'm just trying to understand the rules. --DieWeibeRose 01:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
    • It is definitely a "not" category by my definition. Unfortunately when I nominated that for deletion last, it ended in no consensus for some reason. We really don't need to categorize people who don't smoke, and have been considering a renomination of that soon. VegaDark (talk) 01:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Neutral - i don't own a car so i won't care if i don't own a userbox. -- FayssalF - 02:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Please see the notification box at the top of the page. This discussion is only about the category, not the userbox. The userbox will be kept. VegaDark (talk) 02:35, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Provisional Keep Rename if possible, else Delete - I'm also having the same problem understanding what is wrong with this userbox. Exactly what policy or guideline is it violating? I also have the userboxes for non-smoker, non-drinker, drug-free, and atheist, all of which are "not" categories. If a userbox must "help Misplaced Pages" then how does, for example, a userbox listing what university you attend help Misplaced Pages? Show me the basis for this deletion request and then I may change my vote. -- HiEv 02:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
    • First and formost, please see the notification box at the top of the page. This discussion is only about the category, not the userbox. The userbox will be kept. Second of all, there is (rightly) no category associated with drug-free wikipedians (category was deleted here a while back) or for alcohol-free wikipedians. Athiest counts as a religion category, and is not considered a "not" category. The non-smoking category can be explained with WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS, and the category should be deleted. As for "how does, for example, a userbox listing what university you attend help Misplaced Pages?" Users with such categories can reasonably be expected to collaborate on topics relating to the university. There is no article titled People that don't have a car or anything similar, so there is nothing for such users to collaborate on. If the intent of this category is for people who support sustainable living, they are free to join Category:Wikipedians who support Sustainable Living. VegaDark (talk) 02:35, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
      • I didn't ask for an explanation of the Non-smoking Wikipedians category. I merely asked, "Is that a 'Classic "not" category'?" Ditto, the Homeless Wikipedians category. As for alcohol and drug-free Wikipedians there is the Straight edge Wikipedians category. --DieWeibeRose 05:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
        • OK, I somehow missed the difference between "category" and "userbox" before. I have to agree with 7Kim above though, being a "not" category isn't a good reason to delete a category. As I mentioned earlier, "atheist Wikipedians" is a "not" category, because it lists people who do not believe in gods. However, there is utility to the "atheist" category. Still, one could ask, "What's next? Wikipedians who don't believe in Santa Claus?" You can see why that argument fails, just because some "not" categories are ridiculous does not mean there are no "not" categories that can be useful. If a more useful category for "car-free Wikipedians" could be used instead then it should be renamed to that category, if not, then delete it. -- HiEv 12:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. a "not" category. What's next, Category:Wikipedians who don't own hovercraft? —ptk✰fgs 02:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - "not-category", with (imho) only tenuous ties to eco-issues. - jc37 03:01, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Rename - Following the logic of the Straight edge Wikipedians category I propose renaming the category as "Car-free Wikipedians" or, alternatively, "Wikipedians who support the car-free movement." This would link the category to the Car-free movement article and to a movement that exists external to the Misplaced Pages community. Car-free Wikipedians could reasonably be expected to be interested in collaborating on the Car-free movement article and some of the several related articles listed in its "See also" section. Does this solve the problem? --DieWeibeRose 06:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
    • The logic for creating Category:Wikipedians who support the car-free movement would be the same as the straight-edge Wikipedian category, as there are a few articles such people in the category could reasonably be expected to collaborate on. I don't think, however, that a rename of this category would work, since I doubt all current members of the category support the movement. You could make a new category, though. VegaDark (talk) 09:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Those categories are all essentially the same thing as "I don't drive a car." If you want to categorized Wikipedians by transport, don't categorize them by what they don't use. Categorize them by what they do use, for example, Category:Wikipedian cyclists.—ptk✰fgs 15:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - Okay, I'm going to create "Car-free Wikipedians" and modify the ubx to add users to that category. I'll drop the Sustainable living stuff. I've already notified, on their talk pages, all of the users using the ubx that there is an ongoing discussion about deleting the category the box is associated with. --DieWeibeRose 10:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Please give this discussion at least a few more days before spinning off an exact clone of the category under discussion here. "Car-free Wikipedians" means exactly the same thing as "Wikipedians who don't own automobiles". —ptk✰fgs 15:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
    • May I suggest something that obviates the "not" objection we keep hearing? Category:Wikipedians who use public transit would do so nicely. --7Kim 18:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
      • Agreed, "Car-free" Wikipedians still means wikipeidians who don't own a car, whereas "Wikipedians who support the car-free movement" is a different type of category and would work along the lines of the Straight-Edge Wikipedians cat. (I still don't think we should have categories for Wikipedians who support/oppose anything, but that is a different debate alltogether). Ideally I'd like this to be renamed to Category:Wikipedians interested in the car-free movement if kept. VegaDark (talk) 18:53, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - The rationale for avoiding "not" categories goes back over months of discussions. Essentially the idea is: 1.) We should avoid all-inclusive categories. 2.) 2 categories covering the same topic (differing in one is positive and the other negative) would together be essentially "all-inclusive". 3.) Therefore one of the two should be deleted. 4.) typically the "negative" (also known as the "not"-based category) should be deleted, since the positive is more likely to be useful for positive collaboration (whether direct or indirect), and the negative form is more likely to be divisive or inflammatory. - Therefore, since we have Category:Wikipedians who drive cars and Category:Wikipedians who don't own automobiles, one of them should be deleted, and in this case, it's clearly the negative form. It doesn't matter if we call it "Car-free", or whatever, it's still the negative form, or in other words, a "not" category, and so it should be deleted. I hope this helps clarify. - jc37 19:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment This is worth exactly what you all paid for it, but I would suggest that the not-ness of a category should not be viewed as cause for deletion in and of itself, but as a flag that alerts us that other reasons for deletion may exist. Looking back over history, it seems to me that categories labelled as nots, when deleted, have always had other arguments against them -- lack of Wiki-utility, redundancy, divisiveness, silliness, irrelevance, overly broad scope, &c. In editing, the use of passive voice is not itself bad, but extensive use of passive voice serves as a good predictor for the presence of weasel words, unsourced assertions, and POV problems. So too with category management -- a negatively framed category title or definition is not itself bad, but serves as a good predictor of a valid cause for deletion. --7Kim 19:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete - The category is empty--68.42.141.76 00:15, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians who support the development of Renewable Energy

Useless category. Does anyone not support the development of renewable energy? Might as well have a category for people who support improved health care, improved human rights, etc. Also, "Renewable Energy" should not be capitalized, so at least needs a rename. I'd also support a rename to Category:Wikipedians interested in renewable energy.

May 28

Category:WikiProject Irish Music participants

Category:WikiProject Irish Music participants (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Merge into Category:WikiProject Irish Music members, duplicate. -- Prove It 01:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

May 27

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Queen's University

Propose renaming Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Queen's University to Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Queen's University Belfast
Nominator's Rationale: Rename, To differentiate Queen's University Belfast from Queen's University in Canada. Cordless Larry 16:20, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

May 26

Category:Wikipedians interested in Local History

"Local" varies for every person on Misplaced Pages, so as is, this category is essentially useless for collaborative purposes. A way to salvage it would be to make it in to a parent category and change the name to Category:Wikipedians by local history interest, and have subcategories for each city. Unfortunately, we we would have to ask everyone in the category which city's local history they are interested in to determine this, so I don't know if this is salvagable. As is, this category is no more useful than if someone just wrote they were interested in local history on their userpage. "Local History" shouldn't be capitalized, so this at minimum needs a rename.

  • Neutral pending more discussion, but leaning towards delete. VegaDark (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete - At first I was thinking that this could be kept if the inclusion criteria involved local culture and society in general as sociological items. However, it's clear from the category introduction that this is not the case. This merely duplicates every "Wikipedian by location" category into one sprawling category which is potentially all-inclusive. - jc37 10:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. This just isn't useful unless it provides a means for finding Wikipedians interested in the history of some particular locality. Which is an interesting idea, but I don't see the possibility of it without building and filling a perfectly gargantuan category tree. Even then, how local one can go without passing the notability horizon is not an argument I care to be present for. --7Kim 19:54, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians for an end to the boxwar

This category became more or less obsolete when Misplaced Pages:Userbox migration came along. I don't think this category was useful at any point time, but It certainly isn't useful now. VegaDark (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians supporting the revival of New Jack Swing

Not something Misplaced Pages needs a category for. I'm sure everyone supports the revival of various things, but having categories for such things will not improve the encyclopedia. VegaDark (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedian Emeraldists

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The result of the debate was speedy delete at author's request. NoSeptember 11:46, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

"The wikipedians who have joined User:Alphablast/The emerald society". Sorry, we don't need categories for unofficial userspace groups. Similar categories have been deleted many times in the past. VegaDark (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

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Category:User tpi-0

Category:User no-0

You have called {{Contentious topics}}. You probably meant to call one of these templates instead:

Alerting users

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Editnotices

Talk page notices

Miscellaneous

0-level category. Mass deleted here. Listing for another admin to verify, since this specific one hasn't been deleted before. VegaDark (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

May 25

Category:Wikipedian Autograph Pages

Does not aid collaboration in any way. At all. Also, wasn't something like this deleted before? – Gurch 15:06, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment - I think all these autograph pages should be deleted. They are all a waste of space and people's time. However, until that happens, a category to group them all might not be a bad idea (in order to make it easier for a group MfD). VegaDark (talk) 19:47, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Please see Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Autograph books. A•N•N•A hi! 00:11, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Long hair advocates

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The result of the debate was delete. VegaDark (talk) 09:17, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

No possible collaborative use; WP:NOT a webhost or social networking site. (ESkog) 11:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - "This lists Wikipedians who are against female haircutting" - Sorry, we don't need a category for this. VegaDark (talk) 19:47, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - This is a major issue in some countries of the world, as well as some religious sects/groups/whatever. However, I can't tell if this is the intent of the category, or just a category of those who find long hair on women attractive, and are opposed to it being cut. Keep if the former is true, else Delete if the latter is true. - jc37 10:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
    • If that were the case (which there is no indication of either way), this category would still need a rename, so deletion looks like the best option. VegaDark (talk) 09:17, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Singaporean Misplaced Pages administrators

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The result of the debate was speedy delete per previous consensus on admins per country categories. Picaroon (Talk) 02:31, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

This one must have slipped through the cracks of the Administrators by country UCFD a while back. In either case, I think that established enough precedent for this to be speedyable. VegaDark (talk) 02:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Audio file editors

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The result of the debate was Speedy Rename - jc37 10:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Speedy Rename Category:Audio file editors to Category:Wikipedians who edit audio files - added Wikipedians and re-arrange order. - jc37 08:54, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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May 24

Category:Wikipedians Who Use gedit

Rename to Category:Wikipedians who use Gedit for proper capitalisation.

May 23

Category:Extra-terrestrial Wikipedians

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The result of the debate was speedy deleted per creator request below. VegaDark (talk) 23:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Can't be true, does not help Misplaced Pages in any way. Categories like these are explicitly mentioned in the essay on what categories not to make. VegaDark (talk) 23:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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May 21

Sony PlayStation

May 19

Category:User accounts for vandalism

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 19:47, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Can't possibly categorize all past accounts that have been used for vandalism. Attempting to maintain such a category would be futile. This is nonsense. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

  • If a user is in that category and they are posted to AIV, the bot will mention that the user is in the category. Should have no effect whatsoever on this debate. 01:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Wikipedians that are in Spy Force One

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 19:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

User category that added people to a now deleted group. Not useful to Misplaced Pages at all. Once again, I'll say that stuff like this should be speedyable. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Wikipedians who use Windows under duress

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The result of the debate was speedy delete per creator request below. VegaDark (talk) 07:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Does not help Misplaced Pages in any way I can think of. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Wikipedians who were in the Jeopardy! studio audience

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 22:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Do we want a category like this for every game show or talk show ever made? I don't see this being any more useful than its parent category, Category:Wikipedians who like Jeopardy!. I suppose it's possible such people saw some behind-the-scenes stuff, but adding any info they got from first-hand experience to articles would qualify as original research. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Wikipedians using Google Talk

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The result of the debate was Merge to Category:Wikipedians who use Google Talk - jc37 19:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Redundant to the correctly-named Category:Wikipedians who use Google Talk. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Wikipedians who are terribly frustrated about Bug ID 9213

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The result of the debate was Keep as semaphore to developers, I suppose? : ) - jc37 19:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

We don't need one of these for all 10,000 bug reports on BugZilla. Will become obsolete once it is fixed, anyway, and this category won't provide any benefit until then. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete as nominator. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • As the acknowleged impetus for this category, I'll be sorry to see it go. This isn't just any ol' bug, but probably one of the biggest current sources of frustration for those of us that spend significant time battling Misplaced Pages vandalism. This little bit of wiki-civil disobedience was meant to simply inform other users about this issue (I bet 98% of regular editors still don't know about this bug) and encourage our noble developers on their pathway towards a solution. At least it managed to pick up a little bit of attention. In any case, I'm sure this cat will be deleted, and for perfectly valid reasons...but I won't pretend to like it! Sigh. — Scientizzle 08:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep until bug is fixed. Scientizzle is right that this isn't "any ol' bug". Because of this bug, warning IP users for vandalism serves virtually no purpose since most IP users are not getting the messages. The problem is that most users on Misplaced Pages still don't know that this bug is preventing them from being able to communicate with IPs. This category was created to try to "get the word out" that there is a problem with this and that most IPs are not receiving messages they sent. I understand if the category is deleted but that doesn't mean that I will try other ways to inform people. -- Hdt83 08:25, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm fully aware of the bug and its effects. I don't see how increasing people's awareness of it any more will make the bug get fixed any faster. Every single Wikipedian could be in this category and I doubt it would make a difference, I'm sure the developers are working on it and the amount of people in this category isn't going to affect their speed. I also don't like the precedent this sets- Allowing a category like this for all bug reports on BugZilla (or at least all unsolved ones). Yes, this is more severe than most, but setting the threshhold for what is category-worthy or not is subjective. I also really don't like the temporary nature of this. I don't like the idea of any Wikipedian category that is expected to be obsolete within a few weeks or a couple months at most. VegaDark (talk) 08:47, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I perfectly understand and support the reasons for setting up this category. (And yes, I had forgotten about the bug again... and I'm currently trying to contact an IP, so I'm glad about the reminder.) And if it should help in the least to indicate to the developers that this is seen as a priority by many Wikipedians--all the better. I'm sure they have a lot to do, so it's a good idea to indicate the priorities that current users request. (And no, I don't care whether a category is set up for a day or a century. If it's useful when it's there and doesn't cause too much trouble to set it up and delete it--what's the problem?) Nonetheless, I also have to agree with the argument that this would set a precedent. And we'd soon have so many categories that the purpose (pointing out a major issue) would be made impossible to reach once the word spreads and users rally friends and sock puppets to send their favorite bug category to the top of the charts... For this reason, I hope this discussion will drag on a bit more, raise a lot of awareness... and end with the deletion of the category. Mission accomplished. --Ibn Battuta 01:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep This bug is pretty bad. (I'd support a cat for maybe bugzilla:57 too, but not the majority of bugs there.) I agree that this should be deleted if and when the bug is fixed, but the devs don't seem sure what's causing it. And awareness of the bug is good to avoid biting anons too. (Disclosure: I think it was me who reported the bug, but I'm not sure (/me checks: yes, it was me).) I'd add myself to the cat if I were the sort of user who used user cats. (Note that there is a method of 'voting' for a bug on Bugzilla, where you add your email address as a 'vote'; I'm not sure if the devs pay attention to it.) --ais523 14:14, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
    • By the way, I am aware that deleting a user cat has no effect on the presence or absence of an associated userbox. --ais523 16:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Wikipedians with over 5000 edits and Category:Wikipedians with over 5,000 edits

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The result of the debate was Deleted as empty by User:Anthony Appleyard. (And kind of hard to merge an empty category : ) - jc37 22:56, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

In this case, the former was a subcat of the latter. As these are redundant, they should be merged one into the other.

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Category:Wikipedians who like Zoo Tycoon

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Speedy Rename Category:Wikipedians who like Zoo Tycoon to Category:Wikipedians who play Zoo Tycoon. --Mike Selinker 07:56, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Userbox Creators

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The result of the debate was speedy delete, redundant. Picaroon (Talk) 01:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Redundant with the properly named Category:Wikipedians who create userboxes. VegaDark (talk) 01:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Spec-Chums

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The result of the debate was No consensus to delete - Rename to Category:Wikipedians who use ZX Spectrum computers. (The article suggests it's a personal computer rather than a video game console.) - jc37 19:26, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

"This category describes those who consider themselves to be fans of the Sinclair ZX Spectrum computer" - Wha? This is nonsense. No indication it is even a user category, so at minimum needs a rename, but even then this would have no benefit to the encyclopedia. VegaDark (talk) 01:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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