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Large portions of this are written in an uncited and overly praising tone of voice. 68.39.174.238 17:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. This article is almost unreadable. It should be improved.Biophys 02:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

It is also completely unsourced. Please provide sources. Otherwise, one can remove unsourced statements at any time.Biophys 02:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Some parts of the article look like advertisement. Please come and enroll!Biophys 02:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh really? Biophys have you ever seen CIA article? Or you are afraid of CIA and don't mess with their advertisement page? Vlad fedorov 03:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
No one provided any sources. So, I begin editing with sources that I have.Biophys 02:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Biophys, why not try the SVR homepage? It has an org chart. The Kouzminov book is good, but basically rehashes a bunch of warmed over stuff we already know about. He makes the same mistake many authors and so-called "experts" on Russian security services make concerning SVR's organizational structure in applying the old KGB structure to today's SVR. Since he has failed to read and thoroughly peruse the SVR web site and actually contact the SVR directly for information, it actually calls into question the timeliness of the information he provides in his book and thus its accuracy. Biophys, I think you seem to have some sort of chip on your shoulder concerning SVR and that might affect your objectivity. The information in the article can be found in the official RF sites (Kremlin and both the Federation Council and Duma) and on the SVR's official home page. So, at this point it is referenced. I recommend "Tag" be removed (that does not mean that as new information comes forth that we can't make edits as the need arises in the future).

When we are writing an article about a notable person, it is always important to use some outside sources about him, not something that he is telling about himself. Same thing with organizations. Secondary rather than "primary" sources are recommended by WP:SOURCE policy. This is especially the case, when this is not an ordinary organization, but organization that suppose to hide its work methods and intentions (budget is classified, etc.).Biophys 04:09, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Kouzminov provides several Appendices in his book. One for the former KGB First Directorate structure, and another about SVR. So, I am using his data for SVR. Biophys 04:13, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

This article has one huge problem. It does not tell anything concrete about work of SVR.Biophys 04:44, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Let's collect some information

It was claimed at The Intelligence Summit that "Russian intelligence operatives working for SVR in Damascus intercepted Israeli communications in the July, 2006 in Lebanon, to the advantage of Hezbollah".

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