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Why we are here
This project is here to  build an encyclopedia.  Please limit your actions here to things that help that goal.
    • A Man In Black (talk · contribs)   21:46, March 1 2007 (UTC)
You know it ain't easy
Oh, good grief, it took me 5 months to find the undo button on edits, you expect me to see the obvious alert you posted right above your message?
    • KP Botany (talk · contribs)   20:01, March 18 2007 (UTC)
Protect the encyclopedia
The volume of corporate vanity/vandalism which is showing up on Misplaced Pages is overwhelming.
If we are to  remain true to our encyclopedic mission,  this kind of nonsense cannot be tolerated. We are losing the battle for encyclopedic content in favor of people intent on hijacking Misplaced Pages for their own memes. This scourge is a serious waste of time and energy.
I am issuing a call to arms to the community to act in a much more draconian fashion in response to corporate self-editing and vanity page creation. This is simply out of hand, and we need your help.
    • BradPatrick (talk · contribs)   09:53, September 29 2006 (UTC)
Assume no clue
Has anyone else noticed how spammers and other conflict of interest editors think the guidelines are for the other guy and what they are doing is "useful" and shouldn't be questioned? And they are completely sincere about that.
It's entirely plausible that an editor can plow blithely on, unaware of guidelines. Perhaps we need a corollary to Assume good faith called Assume No Clue.
    • JonHarder (talk · contribs)   03:27, January 19 2007 (UTC)
Wonkish & Arbish
We have dialogues here in two languages. Let's for the purposes of discussion call them Wonkish and Arbish.
In Wonkish, discretion stands for certain vague and disreputable areas of policy where what should happen is not yet properly regulated.
In Arbish, you have always to look behind applications of policy to see intention and the application to  the mission of writing an encyclopedia. 
In other words, discretion in Arbish is read as saying that proactive admins are the main lines of defence of the project. It is much better to have them out there doing their best, taking the mop and bucket away from a few, than to do up the constraints ever tighter to preempt misuse of admin powers.
    • Charles Matthews (talk · contribs)   03:23, October 1 2006 (UTC)

Signature talk

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Apropos of nothing

Hi A, just wanted to say your curated signature collection inspired me to try being creative with my own. Ruhrfisch ><>° 21:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Wonderful fish, love the bubbles! — Athaenara 09:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! Ruhrfisch ><>° 11:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Miscellaneous

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You're a genius?

I hope this doesn't offend you, but you didn't seem like a genius. And you don't edit anything particularly brilliant, but rather, your edits seem to be just simple fixes here and there. How about completing the table of logic symbols? That's something I actually wrote on the article's talk page that I was going to do, but never did. Or how about "dumbing down," the articles on advanced mathematics and physics, so that, for example, the average reader can understand what the hell this means? At least maybe you can help me correct the article on Classical Liberalism. Robocracy 07:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC) aka HP_Owner in the IRC


No, I really cannot imagine why Mensa let me in. Given your low estimation of my intelligence, you won't be disappointed that I decline your offer of an assortment of ambitions in which you've lost interest. — Athaenara 14:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Wow

I don't think I've come across anyone on wiki that works as hard as you. You rock. Keep up the good work! I wish I could work the way you do, I'm serious. I've had a bad two days, suffered some personal attacks and stuff, and I've been thinking about quitting Wiki. I'm not going to do it. Looking at your edits was pretty inspiring. I've resolved not to let certain people get me down, and get back to fighting vandalism, something I'm pretty good at. Thanx for renewing my inspiration in Wiki. Sue Rangell 21:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, thank you, it is very kind of you to say so, and I'm glad you're back on the job. — Athaenara 09:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Un-Anonymizing and Spell-Correcting Faerie

Thank you very much for fixing the signature and spelling of my post in Talk:Scottish Enlightenment#Consequentialist inconsistency, you GoodWikiFairy you. Bob Stein - VisiBone 15:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome :-) — Athaenara 02:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Biographies of living persons

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Note: A mouse kindly retired me from March·April·June 2007 BLP/N archiving duties. — A. 22:00, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

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Third opinions

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Naming conventions · Talk pages · Pike disambig · Kingsmill massacre · Infobox · X Japan · Thanks for your intervention · Loudness war · House swapping · MedCab ·

Global tag on Anti-Europeanism

Hi, you seem more wiki-wise than I, however I added the global tag on Anti-Europeanism per your comments. Please feel free to remove if that tag seems in error. Benjiboi 19:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Conflicts of interest

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Note: A mouse kindly retired me from March·April·June 2007 COI/N archiving duties. — A. 22:00, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

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Question

Hi, I'm pretty new to COIN. I notice you closed some entries, including Overton Loyd. Is this something that any editor can do? If so, do you think I would have been justified in closing that one myself (since another editor had already reported that the situation was resolved?) And what exactly is the process for doing so? Thanks for any tips… -Pete 05:15, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm on my way out the door, but the first step is to read the instructions at the top of the Conflict of interest/Noticeboard page. — Athaenara 05:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I had looked through and missed that bit about closing. I think I understand it, but may be back with questions if/when I find one worthy of closing…appreciate the reply! -Pete 06:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
COI/N archiving so far

A discussion which has concluded may be boxed with top {{coit}} and bottom {{coib}} markup:

{{subst:coit | ] | Result. | ~~~~~ }}
==Section heading==
* {{article | articlename }}
* {{userlinks | username }}
Report and subsequent comments.
{{subst:coib}}

The article and result fields are filled in for each section. An example from COI/N Archive 14:

{{subst:coit | ] | Resolved. | ~~~~~ }}
==]==
( Report and subsequent comments. )
{{subst:coib}}

"Resolved" "Inactive" and "Article deleted" are typical but not universal results. The templates are {{subst}}ed (see template substitution) and will expand after a page save.

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But it could be changed
Questions and answers about archiving. – Hypothetical debate. – 22:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
The following is an archived debate of a possible conflict of interest related to the article below. Please do not modify it.

Questions and answers about archiving

See also: Misplaced Pages talk:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Show/hide boxes are unnecessary?

The Template:COI top and Template:COI bottom instructions are obscure and difficult to understand. Could they be made simpler and more straightforward?

EdJohnston's suggestion to abandon {{coit}} and {{coib}} and use something simpler like {{Discussion top}} and {{Discussion bottom}} instead is a good one. — Athaenara 22:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

The above is an archived debate of a possible conflict of interest. Please do not modify it.
Volunteers?

My mouse will no longer do massive copying and pasting. Fortunately, there are other editors with tougher ones. Maybe you're one of them? — Athaenara 22:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Most excellent, thank you for the detailed instructions! I will try to jump into these on occasion. I am a bit wary of potentially-contentious debates these days though - I've found they can reduce my wikifun a bit. But I'm definitely up for the challenge, just might be a little slow to take it on. My first COI/N experience was very positive, with an editor I chastised going out of his way to thank me for my input…so I'm definitely interested in sticking with it. Thanks! -Pete 22:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Great, I'm very glad you're interested. I don't expect much if any disagreement about changes because relatively few editors take on tasks such as noticeboard archiving. It comes down to a willingness to do the work. Note: when I first happened upon BLP/N in February, more than 140 of its 185 sections needed to be archived and had not been. — Athaenara 01:39, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Slavery-related Articles & External Links

(In re: Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#EServer.org & Special:Linksearch/*.antislavery.eserver.org)

Athaenara -- I shall pass on any further immediate address to deleted links in the slavery-related articles. The past several days have been interesting but diversionary, and attention needs to be paid elsewhere. Late this month I shall return to this matter via talk pages on the individual articles. When we get around to that, I shall notify you and look forward to working with you on review of these links. Cheers, --Jlockard 20:51, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

O.K. — Athaenara 22:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Problems with WP:LINKSPAM

Recently User:Dking has resumed this activity -- see and . Also see similar edits by User:Cberlet: , , and . --Don't lose that number 07:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

In re various COI discussions including, among others, the following:

Cberlet and Dking are both COI SPAs: single purpose accounts with very obvious conflicts of interest.
Note: as of June, I am not active on the noticeboards. — Athaenara 02:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)