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Creating Policies and Guidelines

• You appear to be a fairly new user. I suggest gaining some experience and understanding of the current policies and guidelines at WP before specifically proposing new policies. But fresh perspective is good and your ideas should be discussed perhaps you could share them at the Village Pump as Radiant suggests or seek a mentor who might be able to direct you to where these topics might already be discussed. I would be happy to help. --Kevin Murray 15:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

• Sorry to see that you are experiencing unfriendly attitudes. There does seem to be a bit of frustration. I got my head bit off yesterday on a minor edit of Charles Lindbergh, can you imagine how that got to be a sore spot? When you have time, please shoot me a list of where you think the policies need attention and I can get you to the right discussions. Thanks for your cheery response. --Kevin Murray 15:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Template help

Hey are you good at templates? I thought maybe you were because of your work on the NFL retired one. I want to create a new current NFL players one to propose to WikiProject NFL, based off the MLB player template, but I'm not good at this stuff and I don't know how to make them myself. Anyway, I know exactly how I want it to look in my head so can you help, and if so would you be willing?►Chris Nelson 04:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

PFR is probably the best, I don't think database football updates anymore. And sites like NFL.com don't show stats on player pages once they're retired. So do you think you could help me make a current player NFL infobox template like the MLB one? If I tell you exactly what I want it to look like?►Chris Nelson 05:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, hold on a minute and i'll start a sandbox for it on my user page. Jmfangio ► Talk 05:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, cool.►Chris Nelson 05:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey do you think you'll work on the current players template any today?►Chris Nelson 20:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Templates

I'm happy to help with templates to the extent of my knowledge. Feel free to ask anytime on my user talk, though it will sometimes take me a day or so to respond. Looks like you're off to a good start though! --JayHenry 13:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Bot creation

I have a question that you may be able to answer. I saw you post on the WT:EL page that you had created a bot. I have no idea how to create bots or i would know the answer to this question. Could a bot be built that would remove duplicate wiki links in an article? I'm trying to read up on what people think of repeatedly used WLs in articles, but it the meantime, was just a question that i thought you might be able to help answer. I'm watching here so you can either respond here or on my talk page and i'll see it. Jmfangio ► Talk 01:54, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

You aren't the first one to suggest the idea, see Repeated article-link bot and Wikilink bot. But a fully-automated bot would stir up a lot of controversy and likely never get approved. However, the proposal stand a lot more of a chance of being implemented in the AWB since all edits are "checked" by humans. —Dispenser 07:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Edits

I want to let you know that when you changed the infobox for Joe Montana, you put the year he was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame instead of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's.com id page #. I wanted to let you know before you change anyone elses template that's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Great work, I love the template and do you think the college that they went to should be added because the college that football players come out of is more noticed then the baseball players. Thanks --Phbasketball6 01:53, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Village pump discussion

Just a ping to let you know I responded to your question at the village pump, but to summarise, see Misplaced Pages:Banning policy. Steve block Talk 14:43, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Width

On Tom Bradys page I wasn't able to fix the image width, can you help me with this please? -- ThanksPhbasketball6 20:49, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for changing the color for Mark Brunell, I wanted to see what it would look like and when I saw it I hated it but forgot to switch it back. Outstanding work on those two templates. Thanks --Phbasketball6 01:20, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Instante Messaging

Do you have any IM programs? I'd like to talk to you about some things and it's so much easier to talk instantly rather than via talk pages.►Chris Nelson 23:23, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

• I don't give out that information. I'm happy to discuss this on here and you are welcome to continue the discussion, but if you would like to have an alternative version of the template, you can easily copy this to your subpages. I can do it for you if you are unfamiliar with the practice. Jmfangio| ►Chat  23:30, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

It's not that, I just wanted to iron out some issues and it's easier to do through IM, it feels more personal.►Chris Nelson 23:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

• That's fine, we can continue to use the discussion page. In the meantime, please stop adjusting content on the infoboxes that we are in discussion about. Jmfangio| ►Chat  23:34, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

New NFL Infobox

Whilst conducting a search to find the actual {{Infobox NFLactive}}, I came across your user page. I have a few questions about it, where should I ask them? The NFL project page, here, or the actual template talk page? :-p. PS, good work with the signature ;) -ShadowJester07 ► Talk 01:26, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Ask on the template talk page, we're all discussing issues there.►Chris Nelson 01:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

College football school page names ("American"?)

Please stop changing the names of college football school pages to include the word "American." "American" is clunky and redundant in this context. Should we change the page name for "college football" to "college American football," a phrase that no one ever uses? I think not. When you say "Michigan Wolverines football," that intrinsically defines it as American football, and not soccer or some other kind of football.

I am trying to have an administrator revert such page name changes that you have made.

Jweiss11 03:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

This isn't really my issue, but Jweiss is right. The University of Michigan, like all other universities in the U.S., refers to their football team as simply football and soccer as soccer. There is no need for American there, Jweiss is right in saying it is clunky and redundant.►Chris Nelson 03:31, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Jmfangio, to addess your comments on my talk page: I didn't mean to be overly bossy here, but what you are doing is major structural change, which you've partially executed; not only would each of the main school pages need to be changed, but also all of those for specific team year articles and other ancillary pages. I think before any of us does something like this, there should be some agreement and consensus. As you suggest, I am all for a discussion, forum, vote, etc on this matter. I see your point about the abiguity of the word "football", but the context of a "Michigan Wolverines" should sufficiently define it. Again, should we say "college American football"? Is the WikiProject College football misnamed? Again I think not. Along with non-abiguity, efficiency and succinctness should be virtues of equal consideration.

Jweiss11 03:50, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

• I tried to address this here but it seems that most people wanted to focus on the soccer issue. I made a brief reference to it, but my main point was that I wasn't dealing with the "soccer" v "football" issue and didn't have the heart to try and refocus the discussion. Within an article on the Michigan Wolverines, WP:MOS supports naming the topics "football" and "soccer" within, but seems to support American fotball on the specific articles. I agree that many things need to be considered. Which is what i tried to do before I made any changes. Perhaps we should redirect from Am football to football???? I'm not sure which is better, but i'm inclined to say football > Am. football is better. Also, I this example, I'm not sure what you mean by succinctness and efficiency. Are they separate issues here? I think they are the same thing. Jmfangio| ►Chat  04:01, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

• I saw your comment on WT:CFB and responded. I think that would be the place where the most people would see the discussion. It's a tricky subject, but I think we can get through it with some good, focused discussion. Jmfangio| ►Chat  04:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

The thing is... there's no need for discussion. Logically, there should be not "American" in any of those articles' names. It seems to me by changing these things you just caused a lot of problems.►Chris Nelson 04:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)