User talk:Gimmetrow - Misplaced Pages

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At some indeterminate time in the near future,
I will be taking a wikibreak for about two weeks

Well wishes

Gimme, I hope all is well. I'll miss you, and look forward to your return, safe and well. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Its funny how you don't miss bedrock editors until they are gone. Mr/Mrs/Ms Gimmetrow, thanks for all the great article work, and for keeping FAC / FAR moving nicely along. Hopefuly, you have taken a break for good reasons; looking forward to your, whenever you choose, return, and your daily reappearance on my watchlist. Ceoil 20:39, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Any chance you could mail me a copy of GimmeBot, or put it up here somewhere? user:Rick Bot uses pywikipediabot, run on a Mac. I'd be willing to run GimmeBot while you're away. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:04, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

The code is in multiple pieces and a bit of a mess. I don't want to make it public. I'll think about emailing it though, if you email me first. Gimmetrow 23:13, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, I would email you, but your email address is not enabled :( . -- Rick Block (talk) 01:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Populating GA template with topic data

Hello Gimmetrow,

Hope your wikibreak is going well. Alas, other editors conceive of ways of making your wiki life interesting while you are away. One matter I'm aware of is the {{GA}} template; I am part of a project to find all of the interesting ways this template has been (mis)used and clean them up so that they use the oldid and topic parameters. I gather from the discussion just above the '2000 article' milestone section that use of topic will have impact on GimmeBot. As of July 24, there have been about 150 GA tagged articles that have been set with an oldid and topic parameter; its slow, manual work. Perhaps, when dust settles and you have a moment, review the discussions here. I hope you might join in. Take care. — Gosgood 15:50, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Citing_sources#Straw_Poll

This relates to the text on the placement of footnotes which you helped to work out last month; you may wish to comment. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:57, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Strange tag situation

Hi, Gimmetrow. No hurry; I've temporarily fixed this, but perhaps you'll know why the {{Quote}} template is bombing out the top and bottom closing tags of FACs. Be Here Now FAC SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Another at Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/John Mayer; I've left this one alone so you can look at it. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:13, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I've also left a note asking Dr pda to look in here. If you're able to fix it, please revert my removal of the quote templates from Be Here Now. Thanks ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed those two cases. I don't think it's a problem with {{quote}}. {{quote}} is a shorthand for the HTML tags <blockquote></blockquote> (plus some formatting), which is used for a block quote. In terms of HTML <blockquote> is a block-level element, which means it can't be used within certain other HTML tags, including lists. The wiki markup *, # or : produces an element in an unordered, ordered or definition list respectively; if you try to use {{quote}} within any sort of indented comment the Mediawiki software adds the closing </blockquote> tag immediately, rather than at the end of the quote. This results in a stray </div> tag at the end of the quote, which has the effect of closing the <div> started by the {{Fa top}} template. There is also some discussion about a Mediawiki bug at Template talk:Quote, which may be related.

Bottom line: to avoid this problem, just start the {{quote}} on a new line (and really a blockquote shouldn't be inline in the text anyway). Dr pda 16:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Examples:

{{quote}} used in a sentence which doesn't have any indentation or other tags (no problems)

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Misplaced Pages talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was a test.

This is some text.

This is some text inside a blockquote.

This text is not in the quote

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{{quote}} used in a sentence with a * (i.e. unordered list) (problem)

The article was a test.

This is some text.
This is some text inside a blockquote in a sentence starting with a *
This text is not in the quote

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The workaround, {{quote}} on a new line

The article was a test.

This is some text.

This is some text inside a blockquote in a sentence starting with a *, but the quote is on a new line

This text is not in the quote

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Thanks, Dr pda. So I'll go back to those two FACs and start the quotes on a new line. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I see you already fixed them; thanks again ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Promotions

More promotions today; Raul has run a couple of shorter batches lately. I'll hold off on doing them manually, in case you're able to get to them. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:48, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Gimmetrow. Please let me know what you think of this. I added the star on promoted and a facfailed on not promoted, with a note that a bot would update the talk page. Hopefully, doing that will let people know the status until you can come through and botify. Will this idea work? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:30, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

PS, it sounds like Raul is available August. He's offered to run the bot if need be. Let me know. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

There was an issue at Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Chicago Board of Trade Building, so I went ahead and tagged it promoted; haven't done anything else. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:23, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I got most of the FARs botified, but there are two FARCs. Hope all is well, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

GA Article Count

The bot is undercalculating the number of good articles on Misplaced Pages, it seems by exactly the number of pages Category:Misplaced Pages good articles. The problem is the forward count through these pages differs from the backward count because the backward count misses out the article just after the cutoff. Centy – reply• contribs – 19:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

No, the bot is not undercounting. It's counting exactly the number of unique pages listed on WP:GA, as the page says. A few pages in the category are not listed on WP:GA. Gimmetrow 02:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

So why is it a month ago, when GimmeBot was counting (see Template_talk:GA_number), we discovered the numbering was off and could prove it by listing all the unique good articles. GimmeBot is undercounting. I've done another check with all the listed WP:GA. Centy – reply• contribs – 09:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

That person was looking at the category. The category and WP:GA are not usually aligned. That's not my problem. If you don't like how I'm doing it, you're welcome to the job. Gimmetrow 02:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Edit summary

Had to look :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Promotion/archival of 33 articles; a lot for me to get to manually, so I'm hoping you'll be able to do them. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Crazy-making stuff. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Something completely weird happened at Talk:Autism; I hope that wasn't because of the facfailed change I had you make last time. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Strange, the rest seem OK, including Talk:The Simpsons, which was also re-promoted. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe this edit of mine caused it ?? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:43, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

No, it's something else. Gimmetrow 01:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Something changed; four new errors in the error category that I can't figure out. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:23, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Reply to comment

Re:this edit - (1) See this. (2) I just wanted to say I think you do a bang up job and that I appreciate the work you put in. Raul654 05:32, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Is a break still coming?

Hi - I'm back from vacation and could presumably run GimmeBot while you're away (from my user:Rick Bot account) if you're still likely to be away for a bit. I haven't looked at the source or tried to run it yet - if I'm going to do this it might be easier for me to try a test run or two while you're still around (Python is like my 15th language - I mostly don't bother to actually learn them anymore). Just to be clear, I'm willing to run it while you're away but would rather not take it over permanently. Per Misplaced Pages talk:Bot policy/Archive 18#hourly/daily/weekly maintenance bots, I'm working on a generalized framework for running periodic bot tasks, allowing folks to add tasks by modifying the source (to be kept in protected pages). Real life work has kept me kind of busy lately so progress on this has been slower than I'd like (not to mention the DYK history stuff I'm also working on). In any event, let me know if you'd like me to take over running GimmeBot for a week or two. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

GimmeBot

Hey man, can you run the GimmeBot. I've just piped some changed on the GA articles listing page (changed from first to surnames in music), so can you run the bot to update the listing sequence? --linca 03:35, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Confused about GimmeBot

Hi! I'm confused as to why GimmeBot archived the FAC in progress for the article World Community Grid. Isn't the featured article director supposed to make the judgment about whether or not the article will be promoted? —Remember the dot 01:47, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

It was removed from WP:FAC by the featured article director. It's not a FAC in progress. Gimmetrow 02:40, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Archived by Raul654, the featured article director on August 14. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks for the info! —Remember the dot 04:07, 18 August 2007 (UTC)