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Hwacha

Good day.

Glad to see you are back from a wikibreak.

Well, the problem with game links being on Hwacha is I think such sections in general could be wiki-advertisement. But this is not true with all gaming links, so as a general rule, I delete gaming links that are not solidly relevant to an article. Although I agree, a single well writen sentence with a single link does not hurt the article, game developers who keep adding their games to what becomes a long list does hurt the article. So as a hard and fast rule of thumb, I remove them. In many cases though, removing the game references improves the article, reducing its total size and improving readability. I think removing the section in this case will help the article's readability. If not deleting the section, it should atleast be trimmed back to one example and an explanation as to why it is relevant. --OrbitOne 13:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I am strongly against such references in most cases, yes, and think such references should be made on the articles own page, saying the game features the weapon instead of saying on the weapons page which games feature the weapon. Few people who will read the article are looking for information about how it is featured in games. But I am willing to accept a short reference if it includes an explanation as to why it is relevant. Otherwise, I feel the information is most relevant on the games own article, where a person looking for information on a weapon they saw in the game will more likely look for it. --OrbitOne 13:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Hwacha assitance

Hi Goodfriend100, i am very glad you have left your comments on Hwacha's talk page. In fact i appreciate very much you are being positive about mention games as part of pop culture trive, if just keep at a minor level, which in fact i am in favor to.

Talking about numbers the section in question representes only about 4.68% (less then five percent) of the whole article and just summarizes an example where Hwachas appeared and how they were used, as an artillery piece in many cases. In my opinion this should be expanded a little bit not only games, in fact movies and books but unfortunatelly i haven't found this information. If you can it would be really helpful.

Talking about OrbitOne's arguments regarding to readability i think they really lack of sense, (considering the section in question is less then 5%!!) reader would identify Hwacha on many aspects not only because it is an artillery piece or antipersonel weapon, also as for its impact on korean culture as well, and i think popular culture and games are part of it.

It seems because of the weeks so far, this apparent easy-to-solve dispute will move into a more professional or formal level, as OrbitOne's wishes to. So talking from editor-to-editor, i would appreciate you can keep assisting me on this article, because i feel we can work together to make a great article, even much better than Samurai. I advice you keep "Hwacha" under "watch page" (if you haven't done so far). Thank you again, and i hope to see your soon response, Cheers!, :) HappyApple 18:07, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Probably the biggest reason why the popular culture section should be kept is because the hwacha was a significant step in Korean engineering. Not only that, it helped repel the Imjin War. It is one the most symbolic items in Korean history. Good friend100 18:13, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Amen, Goodfriend, Amen :) --HappyApple 18:20, 27 August 2006 (UTC). (By the way are you catholic? if in any case you arent, no offence, just an expression ). For me, i feel fascinated about this weapon in particular the skill of Korean engineers was so ahead of their time, to develop so operational and fully tactical weapon which obviously was much better compared to heavyweight cannons used in the west.--HappyApple 18:20, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

No, I am not Catholic. Good friend100 18:40, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh i see, i have read to your user's page it is informative but it doesn't say about your religion?, do you have one? I think it is positivism ~^^, because of your preferences towards to mathematics. I am not good at them but i am very glad to know someone who likes them, if you need further assitance on chemistry (in any topic from general chemistry to analytical chemistry) feel free to ask me a question about it and i would be glad to assist you on it.

As an advice from advoce i've contacted, he suggests editors involved on the dispute should take one week off' to think on the posible and plausible-to-all solutions which would solve informally the dispute. In other words, if we take a week off from today 'till next Monday from editing hwacha's talk page and the article would be better because we can think on better arguments to solve this dispute.

So, as a matter of fact i will take one week off from editing the article and as you are assiting me on the article i would advice you do too, we can be reasonable and maybe we can solve this dispute soonly.

I know it is difficult to do, but i wish you can keep patience as i will do too, Cheers, --HappyApple 18:59, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Please read first, talk second

Not sure why you left a notice on my page... perhaps you'd better get all the facts before you leave such questionable advice. Nihonjoe noticed that Taeguk was warring with one of my anti-vandalism scripts, since he was so intent on constantly vandalizing Misplaced Pages. I turned off the script so he could be properly blocked and have his page restored, as well as to help him stop vandalizing. Surely, you're not suggesting to leave vandals continue to break all rules? —LactoseTI 18:14, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Just trying to help, don't need to come out aggresively. If Taeguk warrior is such a frustration, then refer to an admin. Good friend100 18:17, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Please stay out of this, Good friend100. This was already taken care of more than a week ago, so there's no reason for you to be posting comments about a matter which has already been settled. ···日本穣 18:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

"Please stay out of this" OK!!! I will stay out of this is since it looks like a problem off in your own little world with Taeguk Warrior. Just trying to help so if you don't need it help yourself. Good friend100 01:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Award

award

Thank you for the barnstar, whoever awarded it. But I wonder about the reason for the award. Good friend100 14:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Hideyoshi's Invasions of Korea

Finally! Solution has come! Go to the discussion page. (Wikimachine 00:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC))

Response to your ideas on HappyApple's Page

You said the Korean articles are in bad shape because nobody edits them--I improved them a lot by removing the images with copyright problems, improving them so they are much closer to feature article status--they never would get there with bad images. I'm glad you think I did it consistently and with enough energy like it was my job.

English does not necessarily equal the United States... but English Misplaced Pages does revolve around English speakers, so it's important to stick to the concepts and phrases they are most likely to use. I'm not sure what you're complaining about--there are redirects getting them to the page if they search for your "obscure" term. Some foreign terms have made it into English, but that doesn't mean all foreign words are suddenly part of the English lexicon--the idea is we stick to what people know. By your own admission, "Imjin War" is "hardly used at all"--that means it's not a very good main title.

Your example of tome is a good one. Tome and book are both words describing similar things--but which would you choose for the main title of the article? Oei Invasion is different because people learn that term, not some other term.

I regret that you are disillusioned--but I'm even more disappointed that you'd let the fact that the fact that your pet name doesn't happen to be the main title stop you from wanting to edit at all! Please, stick with it--I know you can make some more good contributions if you keep trying. —LactoseTI 02:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Hah! My "pet name"! Good friend100 13:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Please tone it down; I meant no offense, and I really believe you are valuable to have working on this. Don't try to find a word or two you can take out of context--instead, read the whole idea and absorb it. —LactoseTI 13:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I was kidding. I understand what you wanted to say. Good friend100 20:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea

While it's good to be enthusiastic about improving the encyclopedia, your threat of beginning a revert war on the "Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea" article is not acceptable behavior here. Should you follow through on your threat, you will be blocked from participating on WIkipedia. Trying to force your opinion on others by threatening to engage in such tactics is not compatible with the official policies to assume good faith and to be civil. Please continue to make a concerted effort to resolve any disputes in a civil manner, especially as it seems that most of the other editors working on the article have begun coming around to a consensus. Thank you. ···日本穣 07:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

What threat? Did I make a threat to hurt somebody? So you think my rejection of the move is a threat?

I strongly disagree with the move and it is a persuasion which the others just avoid and instead argue with google searches. "Force my opinion"? The other editors don't even respond to what Wikimachine is giving to them on a silver plate. Wikimachine is literally waving a red flag in their face with all that stuff.

And how it is a consensus if a couple editors don't agree with it? And are you trying to isolate Wikimachine and I just because we don't "listen"? I disagree with the move and I am not going to explain why the move is false because I have already repeated myself at least 5 times and Wikimachine has already summarized the argument at least 2-3 times.

Can I ask what your opinion is on the article because you took the tag off the article and it was immediately changed to "Hideyoshi's Invasions of Korea". That didn't help because the article is fine the way it is. Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea should be used in the article and used as a description, or it can be stated as another name.

The other side complained first about the POVness of the name "Imjin War" and how it isn't an English word. Actually, the name is both an english word and NPOV. Right now they are insisting "Hideyoshi's" because it is more common, by definition of google. But their approach is inaccurate because there are other sources as well. Good friend100 12:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

The section title you opened on my talk page has an error: Hideyoshi invaded Korea not Japan Good friend100 12:25, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Oops. I was tired when I typed that. Thanks for catching it. ···日本穣 18:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

"POV pushing"/meaningless changes

Please refrain from making meaningless or superfluous changes to Misplaced Pages articles. , , , and you made meaningless changes to put Korea at the top of talk page banners. This kind of insignificant change is midly disruptive to users who are watching those pages. Please continue to edit and add content, but refrain from meaningless changes. Thank you! —LactoseTI 20:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

whatever Good friend100 23:14, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Try to remain civil. —LactoseTI 23:29, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

As a user mentioned some time before, do you really consider it civil to keep giving warnings on negligible things? You seem to jump at every chance to criticize and you patronize people by giving them wikilinks and dull, impersonal advice. Is this what you call constructive criticism? KiteString 04:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Why I support Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea

(Response to your message on my talk page.) First, please don't forget that Korea was invaded and many, many were killed in the invasions. I know the image is unpleasant, but it's important to remember it the way it happened (as much as we can--so much history from that time is permanently lost). Second, Hideyoshi deserves the largest share of blame (or credit, I suppose) for the invasions. I think this is why most books do actually refer to it this way, and this is why most know it by this name. You can't have the heroes without having the troubles. On the surface, you might think people are arguing for a Japanese point of view title, but in reality they are actually painting the picture of what happened--and they are not trying to avoid saying that it was an outright invasion by Hideyoshi. When you actually have people admitting this is the most common name of the event, I don't see why you are trying to obscure the title. All too often (rightly or wrongly) Japanese are accused of whitewashing the truth with pretty words, but this time it seems we are doing it for them. Part of what makes me proud of Korean history is how people overcame the obstacles to become, for the most part, a respectable nation today.

Good friend100, I never called you a biggot--you were advocating fighting "fire with fire." You were basically suggesting to combat POV edits with POV edits. This clearly is not in the spirit of Misplaced Pages and isn't going to work. Komdori 13:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I understand your reason. But, even if Hideyoshi's deserves almost all the blame, it is already clear that the point is a "Japan invade Korea", not neccesarily Hideyoshi. I still disagree with "Hideyoshi's Invasions of Korea". It is POV, not a title but a description, and I just noticed that the title itself has a typo. "Invasions" should be capitalized, not "invasions". "Of" should be kept the way it is. Good friend100 01:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I think Hideyoshi belongs in the title since he was, in fact, the main character. I think it become very obvious to anyone who reads the article that Japan and Korea were involved--it's in the first sentence. Incidently, there is no typo--"invasions" was initially capitalized and then the consensus was to change it to a lowercase "i." Komdori 14:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

A man doesn't automatically become a main charecter of a war if he starts it. And whats so great about Hideyoshi? So what if he rose in rank and so what if he united Japan? He simply waved his hand for the assault and thats it. As I said, he didn't even go to Korea. His plan of conquest was just a pet plan and it wasn't realistic.

Hideyoshi is NOT the main charecter! What did he do? He didn't alter the course of the war, nor did he fight in the war. Imjin War is the best and most clear option. I don't understand why when there already is a perfectly fine title to use, somebody decides to make things ugly. Good friend100 22:06, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Comments on my talk page

You mentioned on my talk page that I, "think all edits and comments are right while others don't." I acknowledge many don't realize the edits are right--that's what's great about Misplaced Pages. For example, when you didn't seem to know that Hideyoshi had ordered the withdraw (you mentioned this several times and reverted the change repeatedly) I added an easy-to-find reference. In this way, the articles grow in referencs and accuracy, and help reduce the gap between those who have a wealth of knowledge and those who have little. It's important to clear up a lot of historical misconceptions based on legend or propaganda--some of these things may never be settled completely, but by sticking to sourced facts we can make up our own minds.

You also said, "hen you make comments that are not nice, you think that they are perfectly fine and always respond 'I didn't hurt your feelings'. How do you know what the other person thinks?" As far as I know, I've never presumed to tell anyone how they felt. Please don't mischaracterize my actions.

Certainly, some people get offended when their idea is shown to be wrong, or that in such a situation someone didn't coddle them a bit more. It's hard because such efforts are oftentimes largely wasted--being too nice when telling someone they're wrong can be seen as being sarcastic or "looking down" to them. It's why we have the good faith and civility policies--if someone puts something incorrect in the article, no big deal--in most cases it's probably just a simple mistake they made. I don't think any more deeply than that about their motivations (usually) and just help them fix it. If I ever make an incorrect change, I hope someone would act the same way. —LactoseTI 16:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

People don't get offended just because their idea is wrong. Your tone isnt great either. I always feel looked down from you because of that archived argumnent with your insulting words that gave the impression that you look down on me just because I'm a "freshman" and I should be chastised by somebody older, more wise, and more knowledgeable. I don't care if you are 10 years older then me. And the problem is, you don't think you did anything wrong.

My comments and arguments are not beneath your shoes. Good friend100 03:04, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

As I mentioned, you can never please everyone with tone. Coddling too much can leave some feeling patronized, not at all can leave them feeling like you are being harsh, etc. I repeatedly mentioned that I never meant anything as "chastisement." Don't hold grudges for old notices/warnings, just move on. I think I did little real wrong--I would have toned it down a bit if I had it to do over again, but the basic message would have been the same. —LactoseTI 11:58, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Wikiproject

Ask here! :-) Kirill Lokshin 01:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

↑ Did you try asking there? If all else fails, read WP:PROJGUIDE. Kirill Lokshin 01:06, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I asked a couple days ago but nobody answered so.. Good friend100 03:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Mr, Lokshin, there is no wikiproject Korea right? I hope there already isn't one because i'm making one. Good friend100 03:17, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

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It is severely imcomplete. Could you help me get off to a good start? Thank you. Good friend100 03:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I know we've had (and continue to have) some disagreements, but I'd like to help with your project, too, if I could (though I admit I know not a whole lot about many of the topics). I added a link for Lotte; I think perhaps you'd still like to extend this article? —LactoseTI 03:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: how to make template

Just start using it; if anyone has ideas for improvement, they'll drop by once they see it. Kirill Lokshin 18:55, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Too big, in my opinion. Kirill Lokshin 16:46, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

What picture should I use to represent Korea? Good friend100 19:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

As long as it means something to your expected contributors (who are presumably familiar with Korean topics), it shouldn't really matter. Kirill Lokshin 12:40, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Korea

Good friend100: Thanks for your hard work on the WikiProject Korea template. I noticed that you had used this image of a Silla Crown and I was wondering if you might change it to any other example of a Silla Crown or any other image found here at Misplaced Pages Commons because they have better licenses: . The reason why I ask is because the image that you used is under a fair use license and while most European crown images in other Misplaced Pages articles are under the same license, I was thinking of deleting the image you used because now that there are many other images of Korean crowns available we can use those better licensed images (although, unfortunately, none have the visual impact of the image you used). If you wanted any suggestions, how about any of the Baekje Crowns, or the Baekje incense burner here:, or the Seokgruam Buddha . Have a good wikibreak and thanks for your time. Tortfeasor 04:47, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I would be very pleased to contribute to Wikiproject Korea, I think you did great in making it. =KiteString= 00:36, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

thanks, Good friend100 18:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Dokdo article

Regarding Dokdo article, I changed the introduction to look like that of Senkaku islands article. Some Japanese editors insist on using the word 'control' over 'administer' and making the first sentence of the article "Dokdo is one of the several terms that refer to .. " instead of "Dokdo is a group of ...". Last time I did that was about a year ago, and a flock of Japanese editors (i think about 5-6) who were active in Japwiki (but not Engwiki) came over to Engwiki to constantly revert. Seems doubly hypocritic to me that some would insist on different standards on "disputed" islands. Just wanted to hear your opinion. Deiaemeth 05:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree, check talk page on Dokdo to see what I wrote. It should be consistent in the English Misplaced Pages. Good friend100 18:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Front page

In case you haven't suspected, it was a joke. My user page was created to make a point. At varioius points at one time or another, I have been accused of either being a Chinese nationalist, anti-China and pro-Hong Kong independence, an imperialist, a nationalist revisionist, and various other things. The accusation that the Chinatowns were being used to secretly colonize North America was made by someone else (discussion linked in that userbox), not by me. But all those userboxes are there to make a point. Since I have at one point or another been accused of being in favor of some agenda or another, I thought having userboxes endorsing and supporting all those accusations would show how silly they are. The other point I wanted to show was this: despite whatever my personal or political opinions may be, my edits shouldn't be judged by my supposed agenda, but on their own merit, by whether or not they're factually accurate, by whether or not they're verifiable by sources, whether or not they try to push one viewpoint over another, etc. I don't see how I'm being rude to anyone, since the userpage is mine. Only people who are interested in me would click my userpage, and I'm not forcing anyone to do that. --Yuje 05:49, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

replied on your talk page. Good friend100 18:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

The accuracy tag on the front page should be enough for those with a sense of humor. I don't agree that controversial opinions shouldn't be allowed on userpages. Many userpages involve statements of cultural affiliation or political opinion, no reason why only politically correct ones should be allowed and others banned. If I understand policy correctly, users should edit articles in an unbiased and NPOV manner, but are perfectly free to express their (real or fictional) opinions in their own talk pages. --Yuje 23:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I understand. Anyone is free to opinion what they think. I am just commenting how others might give a negative impression towards you. Good friend100 01:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

imjin war

Hello Mr. Stifle,

The Imjin War has been moved to "Hideyoshi's Invasions of Korea" a couple months ago when another admin suddenly took the move tag off. Could you please take a look again at the discussions? The other side doesn't seem to be listening to my argument but I believe that Imjin War should be used because I have several strong points.

The other side says Imjin War is not an English word, it is not commonly used, and that it is POV. Please take a look at this bogged down argument. It is heavily setting back the progress of the article. thank you. Good friend100 01:59, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Please link me to the exact page. Stifle (talk) 19:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

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Please stop posting garbage on closed RFCU entries

Your comment on the main page of the RFCU was already deleted, and now you've posted nonsense on the talk page for the same RFCU. Please stop, especially as you should know better than to do things like that given the time you've been active here. ···日本穣 22:38, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I'm just trying to help. Are you angry that LactoseTI might be a sockpuppeteer? I posted one comment because I have been observing the case for a while. Good friend100 22:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Posting question marks is hardly helping, and I don't care one way or the other if someone turns out to be a sock or a puppeteer (though it would be sad given the number of good, non-controversial edits he's made). My request was simply for you to stop posting garbage. There's no need to argue about anything else as it's irrelevant. ···日本穣 23:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

garbage? Offensive language? Out there, there are editors who constantly vandalize and reedit information from the Japan article regarding Baekje, etc. Are those vandalizers punished at all? If you think that I am not helping properly, thats not true.

Please check the Dokdo article, which has now been moved to Takeshima, Shimane by a new user who has not actively participated in the discussion. Please revert the move and post a move block on there. It is becoming very frustrating to see anoymous editors comments that are racial and exxagerated, or altogether false. It is angry to see that this article is being vandalized and picked around with while no admins are helping. The Dokdo article must be reverted back to its original position. Good friend100 23:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Please stay on topic

Please don't post messages on pages that are completely irrelevant to the topic of the page. It can be seen as spam and Misplaced Pages regards adding spam to articles or talk pages as a form of vandalism. Thank you.

Again, please at least try to stay on topic; posting about how I delete images, or how you don't understand the arguments on an unrelated talk page article hardly contributes to the discussion of removal of copyrighted text (see ]). Unless you have something to contribute to the topic at hand, just keep your unrelated comments in a different section, or post them to my talk page where I'll gladly respond. —LactoseTI 15:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, so you're now going to accuse me of vandalism and then post some tag onto my page? My first goal on Misplaced Pages is to move an article to Imjin War. I will stay on topic, sorry if there is a bother. Good friend100 12:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

To that end, keep your comments on the talk page of Hideyoshi's invasions of Korea, one of our talk pages, etc. Don't go on someone else's talk page when discussing a completely different topic and push your agenda. This is exactly why I posted the notice here. —LactoseTI 14:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Print Screen

In response to your query on how to use print screen--are you in Windows or some other OS? If you are in Windows, Ctrl-Print Scrn and Alt-Print Scrn will give you two different effects. Both put an image from the screen into the clipboard--one does the full screen, the other the currently selected window. From there, you can paste into Photoshop or whatever editing program you care to use. Hope this helps; let me know if you need more details or if you need instructions for a different operating system. —LactoseTI 14:46, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Where can I find the clipboard? After I press "prnt scrn", where do I go to find the image? Thanks, I'm not so hot with advanced buttons on my laptop. Good friend100 14:49, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

In Windows, the clipboard is just a "common area" between programs. To access it, inside a paint program, Word, etc., just hit Edit->Paste (the shortcut is usually Ctrl-V). If you have trouble post again; laptops are often a little trickier because the keyboard is compressed/characters share the same key. —LactoseTI 17:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Good friend100 21:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep Going!

Hi!

Hi, I'm General Tiger. I've looked over your articles, and have to admit that you did an excellent job! I'm currently living in Korea, so if you want to ask me stuff, be free to talk in my talk page.

Oh, I've already joined.

General Tiger (talk • contribs) I'm a extreme Korean nationalist, but also rational. I currently live in Korea, and I'll look over Korean articles. Also, I'll be backing up the Korean nationalist view of history (although in a NPOV way) Currently gathering maps for Gando (from wikiptoject korea)

Remember to sign your name with four tildes Good friend100 14:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

yo sup. 만나서 방갑습니다. 몃학년이세요? 난 현제 고2가 됬습니다. i live in ATL. nice meeting you. i guess you're very interested in 조선 or 임진외란 in particular. 난 그레도 삼국시대와 발해.. 그 부분들이 좋읍니다. 광개토 대왕, 주몽. u get the idea. anyways, thanks for all of ur contributions for the increase of knowledge of our proud nation. I look forward to reading ur edits. --Kprideboi 20:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Where is ATL? I live in Michigan. I hope we can both make Korea related articles much better and more informative. Check out WP:KO and Portal:Korea to help Korea related articles. 전 지금 미국에서 고1 (9th grade). Good friend100 20:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

well well well what is this?

Good friend100 01:47, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Mediation cabal case

Due to the move taking place, I'm assuming that the issue is completed. I'm closing the case; I hope I did a good job. If you have any feedback on how I did, I'd be very grateful for it. Thank you. —Xyrael / 20:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem, that's what I'm here for :) —Xyrael / 18:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello

I'm just leaving this note for you cause I'm tired of the revert wars and would like more input from other people to prevent revert wars.

Would you please look at this:

This version is the only one allowed to stand in the Japan Kofun period and Kofun section, but if you actually read the references this is not exactly accurate. I'm so tired of the lop-sided POV. If you read the actual reference some of the people misinterperted it and if you look at additional references you can see counter arguements, but that keeps getting deleted:

• Japanese Archaeology: Kofun Culture

This reference which is used in the Kofun sit definately states that Koreans think Gaya influenced Japan in the Keyhole tombs. Someone keeps deleteing that sentence if I put it in, even though the reference they provided is the source of that statement.

Current version of kofun:

Whether keyhole Kofun in Gaya was for local chieftain influenced by Japanese culture or for immigrated Japanese aristocrat is also argued. Korea doesn't want to recognize the culture inflows from Japan to Korea in the ancient times. But it can't be denied that the burial mounds with square fronts and round backs in the Korean Peninsura were formed strongly affected by Japan.

My modifications which keep getting reverted for POV, I think it is more neutral or at least summarizes the actual reference better:

Whether keyhole Kofun in Gaya was for local chieftain influenced by Japanese culture or for immigrated Japanese aristocrat or flow of culture from Gaya to Japan is also argued. Korea doesn't want to recognize the culture inflows from Japan to Korea in the ancient times. But it can't be denied that the burial mounds with square fronts and round backs in the Korean Peninsura were formed strongly affected by Japan. Similarly Japan dislikes adding more cultural inflow from Korea to Japan's ancient history. This lead to Japan refusing to open the tombs after a couple of the tombs they opened had definate Korean artifacts in them. Horse shaped artifacts and Korean style pottery were initially excuvated, then the Imperial family stated the tombs will not be disturbed because they are sacred to our people. No further excuvation has been done on these tombs leading many to speculate and both sides insist on their version of theory.

Here is another weird interpertation, and if I bring in counter arguements with references it is deleted. Look at this counter arguement reference, why do people keep deleteing it.

• From Paekche to Origin of Yamato

Here is the current version in the kofun period section

According to the Book of Song, of the Liu Song Dynasty, the Chinese emperor appointed his king of Yamato to also be ruler of Silla, Baekje, and the Gaya confederacy.　According to the Book of Sui, Silla and Baekje needed the power of Yamato Japan. According to the Samguk Sagi (Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms), Baekje and Silla sent their princes as hostages to the Yamato court to ensure military support; King Asin of Baekje sent his son Jeonji in 397 and King Silseong of Silla sent his son Misaheun in 402.

You can see this current verion is definately biased There are reasons why you can't find certain Japanese references in english cause most historians have nullified or discredited those references for lack of evidence or confusion in interpertation. But someone keeps using these Japanese references and will delete other references that counter their arguements.

Here is my version, I thought this was more neutral than the current one:

According to the Book of Song, of the Liu Song Dynasty, the Chinese emperor appointed his king of Yamato to also be ruler of Silla, Baekje, and the Gaya confederacy.　According to the Book of Sui, Silla and Baekje needed the power of Yamato Japan. According to the Samguk Sagi (Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms), Baekje and Silla sent their princes as hostages to the Yamato court to ensure military support; King Asin of Baekje sent his son Jeonji in 397 and King Silseong of Silla sent his son Misaheun in 402. Baekje's influence on Japanese culture has been a contentious issue in contemporary relations between South Korea and Japan. The exact nature of the relationship is always investigated. The above interpretations are not exactly accurate because ancient Chinese writing are difficult to deciper. People do not know when a sentence ends and where the puncutation such as commas are suppose to be. Even more confusing is one character can have multiple meaning depending on the context. The same sentence in the Book of Song can be translated to Yamato being an colony of Baekje's expansion efforts. Then if this sentence structure is followed, the Book of Sui would show that Koreans were already the rulers of Yamato. Another point of arguement for contemporary historians is whether the Silla and Baekje princes were hostages or guest teacher who came to transmit culture. In addition, the Korean rulers were always put ahead of Japanese rulers, but below the Chinese rulers in all the text, leading people to see this order as the confucian rank. This situation has lead to both nations to further investigate the situation.

I'm not as jumpy on reverts on these theories as I am with the definate misrepresentation reverts in the Japanese War Crime section and WWII/Korea section. Most of my info are from the East Asian studies courses I took and I try not to be POV. I'm only trying to correct the current POV. Any ways I hope you can provide more input.4.23.83.100 10:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with your edits and the sources you have (which by far are the best I've seen. I have never seen such detailed books on the history of Korea by English authors).

Probably the best way to solve this problem would be to take your case to an admin. Present your case like above and give your sources that the information is correct.

I understand that it is frustrating that editors at the Japan and japan related articles remove information about Korea all the time. I can see it. If you keep editing the article, they will keep reverting it so, as I said, request support for your case.

I'm not a master of Japanese history, but I do know that Baekje and Korea itself has greatly influenced Japan, its culture and language. That cannot be denied and the Japan article must have that information whether Japanese editors like it or not. Good friend100 19:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Take your information and links to the Kofun period talk page and argue there as well. Make sure they know why it is not POV. All the editors that reverted your edits say that you are POV. How is a fact POV? =) Good friend100 19:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

반갑습니다, 無文_멘입니다...

만나서 반갑습니다, 굳 프렌드씨. Thank you for your greeting. I can do prehistory ok, but as for more recent times, uh...I can always try to help. ^^ Mumun 02:44, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

굳 프렌드씨 ~~ 인사 잘 받았습니다. I was impressed with the 임진왜란 stuff on which you've been working. As you are probably aware, the mission of the 국립진주박물관 changed several years back and it is now dedicated exclusively to Japanese invasions. The website pursues a modern museological approach and there are little things to do and check there. One fun thing is that they have prepared 임진왜란 'factlets' on a daily basis in the '임진왜란의 오늘' section. Mumun 10:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

인사차

님께서 Kprideboi에게 보낸 제 인사에 답글단거보고 왔어요... 그런데 어느나라 분이신지요..^^ 정말 헷갈립니다.

전 한국인입니다. 지금은 미국에서 살고, 일본어 공부하고있음니다. Good friend100 21:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

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백제 토의란에다 엔드로이든지 뭔지 하는 애한테 말해줘서 고마워요. ^^ 아~ 위키에 한국사람 없어서 힘듭니다. 요즘전 nangnang nation땜에 미칩니다 ㅠ.ㅠ 한사군인 낙랑군에 반대하여 최씨낙랑국이라고 있는데 반대가 너무 심하군요. --Hairwizard91 13:32, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

충고

감사합니다. ^6--Hairwizard91 02:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

언재든지 도와 줄게요. Good friend100 03:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

hoeryong

hi, did you translate the summery about hoeryong?? Superzohar 15:55, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Its long time no see. What have you edited for a while ? I have paid attention to Joseonsa Pyeonsuhoe and Nangnang nation. --Hairwizard91 23:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey Hairwizard I haven't had much time editing Misplaced Pages. I have been paying attention mostly to the Dokdo article for vandalizers and on Three Kingdoms of Korea related articles in the time I've spent on Misplaced Pages. Good friend100 20:14, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

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You like German Technology? How about helping out with a technology section in WikiProject Munich? Kingjeff 08:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll help if I can. I'm not strong in German history, but I enjoy and read about German technology, especially during WWII. Good friend100 00:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The Goryeo Section

There's currently a debate raging in the Goryeo section. You are quite active in Korean history threads and would probably be able to contribute greatly to the discussion in hopes of resolution. Thank you! justinpak 9:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh yes, I will do all in my power to conclude the discussion. Good friend100 00:31, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The Scope of Wikiproject Korea

I think we should bring comfort women into the more high-priority categories of Wikiproject Korea. It's a very significant topic and the article needs improvement. =KiteString= 04:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, comfort women is a very sensitive article. You do not have to ask me if it should be in the high priority list. If you believe so, put it up there so others can take a look and help. Do freely as you wish, just so long as it isn't vandalism. =) Good friend100 00:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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thanks, Are there articles related to German technology? I am interested to help. Good friend100 18:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

(copied over your response from the Template) What are you looking for? I would suggest you start looking in Category:Science and technology in Germany and its subcategories and check out if there is anything you feel like improving. Misplaced Pages's coverage is usually quite good already, but if I can think of technological things that we don't have articles about, I will list it in the project's To do template. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 18:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Good friend100 18:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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seeing you like PC Games do you play Final Fantasy 11 or Guild Wars? IMO im not sure this is the proper place to ask but oh well. anyway happy editing.

Yes, I play several PC games including Starcraft, Warcraft 3, Call of Duty, etc. Good friend100 20:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks a lot! That really made my day. :-) Thank you very much for your own efforts, and especially for putting WikiProject Korea together.

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Dokdo Article

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I want your feed back right away and help us in Dokdo Talk Page. Thank you.--Jamesshin92 02:38, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I am monitering the talk page. Good friend100 04:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hey Good friend100! What do you think about this regarding HSR-350x article? Happy New Year! (Wikimachine 21:05, 1 January 2007 (UTC))

I dunno. My family goes to Korea almost every summer and I'm waiting until I can go to the national museum of Korea and take pictures of the drawings of Imjin War battles, Korean weapons, etc. I thought doing that was ok since I took the image myself. I think you are right because its one of many many images depicting the same thing, which, in this case is the HSR 350x. I think the image is fine for fair use. Good friend100 23:32, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Oyo321

CHING CHANG CHONG!!!

Move to HSR-350x

Should I move Korean G-7 to HSR-350x?

Search results for "Korean G7" by 69.245.43.115 show

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while search results for "HSR-350x" show

• 6 on 1st Google pg
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• with 162 total pages and 575 similar pages.--User:Kingj123 09:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Ironclad

Thanks for your support.Let's fight off the Eurocentrism--Ksyrie 23:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I do support that the Turtle Ship was the first ironclad in the world. The problem is how people define "ironclad". I'm not against Western culture or its ideals though but I will support keeping a balance between Western and Eastern emphasis. Good friend100 02:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

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글-남김

독도에 대해서 지금 치혈한 싸움이 진행되고 있지요. 님은 어떤쪽을 선택할것입니까? 같이 더욱 더 독도가 우리의 것이라는걸 알려줍시다. 당연히 독도는 한국것이지요. 원래 독도는 수처년 전부터 우리나라의 땅이였습니다. 그런데, 일본사람들이 1990년대쯤 우리나라를 식민지로 만들었지요. 그때, 일본이 우리의땅인 독도도 같이 빼어갔답니다.

님, 우리쪽에 명을걸고 같이 합의하시지옵소서!

younilha 드림.

Michigan

Hi, nice to meet you Im Korean and I live in Rochester Hills ^_^.

-User:Easternknight

How do you

How do you Send a Warning to other editors or is that only what Admin/Mods do? Jegal 17:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

글-남김 二章

안녕하세요, 다시 뵜습니다. 저는 위키백과를 알은지 겨우 일년도 채 넘지 않았습니다. 그래서, 님께 많을 가르침을 부탁드립니다. 감사합니다. 아참, 그리고, 제 이름은 윤일하 (尹一荷) 입니다. 저번에 제 토크페이지에 유닐하라고 불러서요... 햐튼, 우리같이 좋은사이가 됬으면 합니다. 같이 독도와 우리나라의 역사를 날리자고요!

必勝!

그리고 削際人 (삭제인, deletionist)가 되세요.

Younilha 17:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

글을 남기고 갑니다.

안녕하십니까. 한국 Misplaced Pages에서 활동중인, 한국 토박이(=Native) "크래니져('Cranezyer' in English)"입니다. 어쩌다가 독도 문서까지 보고, 님을 뵈는 일까지 생겼네요... 하하하하하하하... 그보다, 언제부터 미국에서 사시게 되었는지요? 맞춤법이 과거의 맞춤법에 미국식 방언의 형태가 들어간 것 처럼 보여서 말이지요. 아무튼, 이국의 동포를 보는 마음으로써 반갑습니다.

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Goodfriend, I won't spend a ton of time editing "The Battle" section of this article since I'm still in the process of significantly reworking it. If you want to make significant changes after I'm done, please discuss it with me on my page. Thanks. WangKon936 01:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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How do you do that? Good friend100 00:25, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Please change the licensing template {{PD-self}} to something compatible to the GFDL. As I have suggested, {{GFDL-retouched}} is a suitable license. As for attribution, please provide the source (URL) and the author of the original image. --Kusunose 02:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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도와주세요.. Help!!

엔앨류가 아무리 저랑 다르다는 이유로 저를 고립시키려고 합니다.(harass the me.) 제 놈도 중국 기록 중심으로 글쓰면서 제가 한국 기록 중심으로 글쓰면 자꾸 비난하네요... 영어를 잘 못해서 그러니 좀 도와 주십시오. I entreat this favor of you. Korea history (Talk) 13:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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Hi!

Hey Good friend100, I was surprised by your comments @ Talk:Goguryeo. I was just exaggerating a bit when I said that my high school was better than most colleges. No way, but I was really pissed when Nlu was saying that I wasn't @ college & therefore not as qualified as he.

And all that weird stuffs I say, like "turn links", "risk of impact", "academia", etc... they're really simple words that philosophical writers made up (& in debate rounds, we have to read what they write). Usually you'd assume that if the words sound unfamiliar or complex, then they must have really deep meaning. If you're talking about rocketry, that might be true, but here no.

You said you were @ middle~ high school, right? I'm on the same page as you are. So, gl hf! (Wikimachine 02:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC))

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I have already given a fair use reason according to Misplaced Pages:Image description page. Good friend100 20:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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"Thank you" Good friend100 14:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Japanese invasions of Korea (1592-1598)

Hey, here's a really good news.

I got around 8~10 different refs on the topic from a college library that I happened to visit!

You know all those academic journal websites where you have to pay special fees to have access to?

I had access to all of them!

So, let's change our objective from the Noryang Daechup to Japanese invasions of Korea! (I'm almost done reviewing Sakhalin Koreans). (Wikimachine 16:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC))

Thats great if you have access to college' material. I'm currently adding images and editing grammer problems in the article. If you check the peer review at the talk page, unfortunately I am not getting too much out of it, but a warning to make sure it is NPOV. As for NPOV, the article is definitely stable so I am sure we are good on that. Good friend100 16:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

We have several Korean related articles that I am considering to apply for FA status. It includes the Japanese invasions of Korea (1592-1598), Hwacha, Battle of Noryang, and maybe some others. Good friend100 16:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

HappyApple contact

Hi, Goodfriend100 its been long time since contact. I have seen your recent edit in Hwacha and i am glad to see a picture of the siege weapon firing its projectiles, however i advise you to be careful on adding this kind of pictures because i tried also do the same but some other editors deleted the same imaging arguing it was not covered by the fair use policy so, wish you good luck on that.

By the way you stated in the article that the coriolis effect does not affect the projectiles. After a brief seach in my University Physics book (Sears, Semansky, Young, Freedman) ], i found that all kinds of projectiles as well are affected by the coriolis effect at higher or lesser extend depending of the range and the position, although the range it is not fairly good affected by the effect on short distances, it rather deviated the projectile from its normal trajectory few inches or centimeters. I am not as good in physics because my major is chemistry however after review in the book i think it has been claryfied. If you have any question about it, or about the picture left me a note, by the way, did you spend a happy new year? I think you call it seol nal right?, i hope so =D.. cheers, --HappyApple 17:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

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Response/Fair Use Description

I replied on my talk page as well:

There is no point of view issue with these images. Those specific images from that same site were removed before due to similar issues. The websites you grabbed them from are not the creators of the images, and don't have information about the original source or copyright status (that I could see). This kind of copyrighted painting or drawing is not allowed. See the fair use page (an example of things that are not fair use being, "A work of art, not so famous as to be iconic, whose theme happens to be the Spanish Civil War, to illustrate an article on the war.") Images help the articles, but it's important to get free ones. —LactoseTI 13:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

sign your name. Good friend100 13:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

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Turtle Ship

Hey I just wanted to let you know that I tracked down the references in the iron cladding subsection. THere's no controversy whatsoever. All the primary sources are from an article written in 1977 by a SNU prof in the Korea Journal and none of it doubts iron cladding. In fact there is no reference that claims this "controversy". Unless the anti-iron cladding editors come up with references that supports their view, any such claims of doubt and "controversy" is original research and violates WP:A. I've explained this in the talk page and made appropriate changes. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.melonbarmonster 20:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I've left a final request for references regarding doubts or referenced "controversy" about iron cladding on the turtle boat. It's my hope that those who offer no references will not instigate another revert war. If you have the time and interest, I would appreciate your investigation and commentary on the matter.melonbarmonster 17:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

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Seven Years War

Hey Good friend100! In art class, Im planning to draw a scene for the Noryang Daechup - where Admiral Yi dies & his nephew comes to hold him (& later Admiral tells him to keep on drumming).... I remember a pretty neat pic that you probably uploaded long time ago.... was that really you? If not, do you have neat pics related to the war? Anything will help even ones not related to the Noryang Daechup b/c Im creating this really on no photographic reference. Could you send them to my e-mail address (on my user page)? Thanks a lot! : ) (Wikimachine 20:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC))

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thank you for the reminder. Good friend100 00:24, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Three images

Hi, I deleted the following three images Image:Battleofnoryang.jpg Image:Battleofhansan.jpg and Image:Battleoftadaejin.jpg which were listed on WP:PUI. If you find a source for those images, I can undelete them, if they pass our non-free content criteria. Although perhaps they pictures are already much older and are already in the Public Domain. However without a source (who was the painter for instance) we don't know that. Garion96 (talk) 15:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I had a source on all of them. Good friend100 20:16, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Proceeding with the Goguryeo mediation

Hello! : )

This is Daniel Bryant and Armed Blowfish from the Mediation Committee, and as you may be aware, we are mediating the Goguryeo Mediation Committee case.

We are sending you this message as you are one of the involved parties in this dispute. Recently, a private wiki was set up for private mediation by the Mediation Committee. As noted by the Mediation Committee policy on confidentiality, mediation is confidential, and therefore the Committee has decided in this case to hold all mediation discussions in this case on the private wiki. Therefore, we need you to get an account so the case can proceed.

To request an account on the private Mediation Wiki, please click this link to email Armed Blowfish. Please include "Goguryeo" somewhere in the subject, e.g. "Private wiki account request for Goguryeo mediation", to note that this email has highest priority. If you do not have email enabled on your account and are unable to use the mail feature, please let us know on Armed Blowfish's talk page.

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Hello, I responded to you on my talk page. Thanks letting me know, Armed Blowfish (mail) 07:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Hello! Since you have not picked another method for creating an account, here is your account information:

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I put the current mediation pages on your Watchlist, but pay attention to the Noticeboard, as there will be more in the future.

Note that you will need to change your password as soon as possible, and then confirm on Misplaced Pages that you have in fact taken your account, as a security measure.

Thanks,
Armed Blowfish (mail) 03:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Modern Politics (Gaogouli article)

I have a few problems with your recent edits on the Gaogouli article concerning the Modern Politics section of the Gaogouli/Goguryeo article. Here's what I think:

1) "In historiography , Goguryeo has been conventionally viewed as a Korean state" would be incorrect considering past historical sources do not incorporate modern constructs such as "Korea" into their language use.

2) Assimilating into a "Dynasty" (the Tang in this case) is grammatically incorrect, so I suggest reverting it back to Han Chinese.

3) "A state established in what is now China does not neccessarily mean it is Chinese." - This, I have no particular problems with (spelling error aside - necessarily), but would be more legitimate if you included this as its source.

4) "Simply because more Goguryeo people were assimilated into the Tang than Silla or Balhae does not make it Chinese." - I have a big problem with this argument. For one, this statement brings about a preconceived idea that Bohai is a Korean state - which is heavily disputed, perhaps much more so than Gaogouli itself. The fact that Bohai was a predominantly ethnic Mohe (ancestor of Northeast Chinese Tungusic tribes such as the Nu Zhen/Man Zu) and its territory largely in what is now Heilongjiang province of Northeast China, I really don't see how this has anything to do with migration into the Korean peninsula.

5) "Goguryeo repelled the Sui and Tang Dynasties of China several times before finally being destroyed by a Tang and Silla alliance." - I removed this part because it is a very weak argument considering it could be applied to Silla as well. Assault11 23:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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nice try. Good friend100 14:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Personal Attacks (again)

Since you asked why, as mentioned in the other warning, repeatedly saying someone is "wimpy" and "pathetic" is a personal attack. Komdori 22:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I have every right to argue. We have been going through a ton of discussion and mediation stuff and after everything seems finally ok to lift the lock, we get another frigging edit that creates another uproar in the talk page. I'm sure thats not fair. It certainly seems like the Chinese side is putting everything in their effort to put a foothold on this issue here in Misplaced Pages. Good friend100 22:40, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

You don't have a right to make personal attacks on Misplaced Pages. Anyway, I made that map. I'm Korean... but before you were calling me a Japanese side and now you are calling me a Chinese side. Finally a little discussion has started on that talk page, if it didn't I was about to request protection myself. It might get the mediation case going along, everyone seems to be dragging their heels. Komdori 22:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

The map clearly was going to create another argument, or did you not see that? Good friend100 23:07, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

No, I didn't--there was going to be no picture soon, since the other one was unfree. I tried to make one that would show as much information and be as informative as possible for someone trying to know where the heck this thing was. Komdori 23:11, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that was a problem before the block. Good friend100 23:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

You didn't think what was a problem? Komdori 23:28, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

About the map, actually there was a tomb picture before that too. Good friend100 23:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Before the map I put there was an unfree map; it's been reverted to a tomb photo. Komdori 23:32, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Komdori 01:02, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Your welcome and I hope you are having fun. Good friend100 14:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks!

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On Topic

Don't take this the wrong way, but could you try to stay on topic on the talk page? I don't see what my personal life or who I know how has anything to do with the edit in question. To answer you, we are employed at the same university but in different departments. If you have a personal question ask me, don't put it on some article's talk page. Komdori 03:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Happy Mother's day

Hi Good friend100 it's long time no see, how are you?. I hope all things are going fine to you. It seems you had battled a long way with wikipedia copyright issues, i think that's normal, it also happened to me.

For some reason some people, delete content basing themselves in copyright, but in fact they are letting their personal prejudices and intellectual snobbery to persuade that many other members' contributions are worthless.

That's the point i think- So i wish you do not step back in your quest to put images of korean history, which i believe they are great. I have seen some of them and i really enjoy to see the middle ages korean art, among many other things related to korean culture.

Finnally i wanted to wish you a happy mother's day, i dont know how do you people celebrate this in korean fashion; however i wish you, as a son spend good season with your mom, and don't forget to study very well to become greater than those people who are just trying to let you sometimes down. Have a nice day, and good luck.

"What's a real friend?, someone who give you his or her hand to stand up you from falling down or assisting you in adversity."-anonymous ~! --HappyApple 16:43, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Chinju.jpg

Does it look like I care at all? Nice of you to root through all the Japanese invasions of Korea (1592-1598) battles to look for that eh?

If you think its a way to pin me down with these annoying and dumbshit tags, think again. If you didn't realize already, I stopped paying attention to these images a long time ago.

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away... Good friend100 20:21, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

It seems to me that you are acting in an uncivil manner. Please remain civil and don't resort to making personal attacks or instigate edit wars. Komdori 20:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I might add that I'd prefer to not leave the tags on your page, but it is required by the procedure to remove these images. Komdori 20:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Then leave it to others to post the tags. And calling the tags as "dumbshit" isn't personal, unless you think putting the tags on is a personal job. Good friend100 20:32, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't really mean to cause an argument with you, you're obviously feeling raw over something, but it is really incivil to tell another editor "not to edit" (leave it to others to post the tags). After noticing an image offending Misplaced Pages policy and tagging it, I'm the one who needs to leave the tag on your page. Please, just calm down and don't let your emotions get the better of you (throwing vulgarities left and right, on your user page, talk page, towards others, me, etc.). It is supposed to be fun. Komdori 20:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

And for the record, I thought the images you posted were very good. But you had to do little work in finding out who painted them, or what their source was. If you can do this now, maybe we can get some of these back! Komdori 20:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll go back to those images maybe later. Check this out copyright paranoia. Good friend100 20:44, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I've seen that. I agree in general, but a picture is really worth thousand words, and we have to be careful about them when we don't know from where they were scanned. I really doubt those images you scanned were made so long ago. To me, they look like something that came out of a history book, maybe a school book. I think a lot of publishers might give permission, but many might not. Some of the images, in fact, I think were found to be recent paintings. Others, like the one I just linked, I have no clue. So if you get time, please try to find somewhere that has these or others, they add a lot to the article, and it is a shame that zero of your images are surviving, you added many. When I tagged them, I thought that you'd be able to get some data about at least some of them. At least with Misplaced Pages, almost no action cannot be undone! So maybe we can undo the deletes soon. Komdori 20:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

WP:SOAP

For your information, WP:SOAP is applicable to user space as well. --Kusunose 02:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Is it "extremely offensive"? Its simply my own viewpoint on things and it is insignificant to what is happening in the talk pages. Good friend100 02:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not advertising it or endorsing it either. Good friend100 02:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Comments like "Japan agreed to give up all their territories after WWII, right? Then do so and stop being a pain in the ass." and "The PRC has nothing to add to their claim besides some silly little tribute Goguryeo paid a bit and some stupid claim over land in Manchuria and how its their land today." are clearly not NPOV comments. If you really wish to publish these comments in your "Misplaced Pages Sucks" essay somewhere, you might follow the advice given on the user page guide: "In general, if you have material that you do not wish for others to edit, or that is otherwise inappropriate for Misplaced Pages, it should be placed on a personal web site. Many free and low-cost web hosting, email, and weblog services are widely available, and are a good alternative for content unrelated to Misplaced Pages." --Cheers, Komdori 14:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I see, thanks for the advice, and I'm glad you could have picked up the topic of my essay. Good friend100 18:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

And btw, I'm not writing all this up because I'm angry about the discussion at the Dokdo talk page, I have been thinking about this over the last couple months. Ha! Good friend100 20:26, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Goguryeo

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Goguryeo. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. --Endroit 02:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see that you are only accusing me. User Jiejunkong has disrupted the relative stability of the article by making edits that may be original research and pasting "no source" tags all over the article. It is obvious that he doesn't understand Misplaced Pages rules, giving me a "warning" thats not even done in the proper way on something that I did not even violate.

Simply because you agree with him doesn't mean that he does not violate WP:3RR or WP:NPOV. He has made provocative edits and added an image that seems to be original research. I have not used my.goguryeo.net to source the controversial section of the article, only the "Goguryeo-China wars" part.

Jiejunkong has also made funny claims about how Silla is the "real" enemy of Goguryeo and something about how Silla is connected to modern Korea more than Goguryeo.

Jiejunkong has also been rude to other editors he disagrees with, calling sources that agree with Goguryeo as "fascist". He also named others that they are "amatuers" and are not "capable of contributing verifiable facts". He has also said that he "doesn't want to touch my talk pages", implying that he hates me or is disgusted with me.

I think you Endroit, yes you need to apologize to me and see that Jiejunkong is the editor that first disrupted the article (I'm not accusing him of "starting it first". I'm not 10 years old). Good friend100 03:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I believe I have just started my discussion with Jiejunkong in Talk:Goguryeo, and you are incorrect to assume that I agree with him. In your case, Good friend100, you have completely deleted his material without even trying to understand what the material contained. I believe that yours is a bigger disruption than Jiejunkong's, and if there's anyone who needs to appologize, it's you Good friend100. Please read up on WP:AGF before you start accusing people again.--Endroit 03:38, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Pasting tags all over the article, writing down nonsense that is sourced by something contradicting itself, making rude comments, and uploading provocative and possible originally researched image are stuff I have seen him do. And I should assume good faith after seeing him do this?

I am reverting back to the neutral version of the article, unlike him, who is reverting back to his version. Tagging the "Goguryeo-China Wars" section as POV simply doesn't make sense to me. No straightfoward discussion and claiming that Goguryeo's main enemy was Silla is definitely mind boggling.

I do not feel that I need to apologize. The article has been relatively stable until he started to make provocative edits without discussion. Maybe you should hit up on Jiejunkong's edits on the talk page and see his accusations of Cydevil's "twisted arguments". Good friend100 03:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

You can't just remove the "factual accuracy" tag without discussion, like you did. That's the part you need to exercise WP:AGF with the utmost caution. We are still in discussion, so please do not delete complete texts without consensus to do so. Thank you.--Endroit 04:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Jiejunkong cannot just add the "factual accuracy" simply because he thinks theres something wrong with the article. He has had no standing discussion about it. The article was fine until he slammed into it, pasting tags all over the article simply because he doesn't like the article and claims Goguryeo is Chinese. I don't think I needed to "assume faith" after seeing what he did to the article. I reverted his edits and then the fun started from there.

And the complete text you are talking about, I explained that the source on it was totally messed up. The source did not support the section, it actually is about a Chinese historian refuting the Northeast project. Either the writer of the section does not know English or it is supposed to be a joke. Good friend100 12:24, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you are a good detective to label other people without even knowing what you are talking about. Northeast project is just like mygoguryeo.com, only taking a different side. So I have never cited the project as reliable reference. Before you claim who is on whose side, make sure you have read and thought more about the proofs of the claim. I follow all WP's, and I agree to the current wikipedia consensus of reliable source. BTW, I come here because it seems that you are smearing my user talk page with some unsupported slogan templates. This is not good and I believe you do owe me an apology.--Jiejunkong 16:31, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Wrote my reply and other stuff in the file you reported against me. Again, you don't seem to fully understand Misplaced Pages policy. The warnings are not "slogans". It doesn't matter whether or not they have "support" and can be posted onto anybody's talk page when they violate something. Good friend100 00:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

It is a good thing that you are blocked. Your comments and edits are all POV and many of them do not have good sources. Gaogouli is Chinese and stop trying to make up claims that it is Korean. Chinapride 19:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Report of 3RR violation

I happened to notice you have been reported for two 3RR violations here, and thought it would be good form to give you a link. --Cheers, Komdori 20:43, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Good friend100 00:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem, it would suck to get blocked and not even know the report was filed. I assume the reporter forgot/didn't know to leave you a message when it was actually filed. Just as some friendly advice, even if the version the editor reverts to is terrible, it's not really going to damage anything for a day or two, especially on an article like Goguryeo where not many see it. I was offline today for a lot of the day so I didn't even see it happening. --Cheers, Komdori 01:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Thats awesome. Good friend100 02:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

3RR

Please do not allow your content disputes to spill over onto the Administrators' noticeboard for 3 revert rule violations. The complaint is now moot. Please use the two days for which the article is protected as an opportunity to work out a version satisfactory to all parties on Talk:Goguryeo. Do not discuss the article content further on WP:AN3. --Selket 06:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

unblock request

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Request reason:

I in fact wrote down my reason before I got blocked on Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. I won't start listing why I shouldn't be blocked, but I'll apologize due to the fact that I carried on the edit war without filing a case first, like I should have done. However, the reverts I did were reverts to keep Goguryeo and its related articles from being POV. I already explained how user:Jiejunkong's edits were both violating WP:V and WP:NPOV. Again, I apologize (and did before) how it is my fault for edit warring. However, I strongly feel that Jiejunkong has participated in edit warring as well and has made numerous other violations which can be observed on Talk:Goguryeo. Please reconsider the block, or decrease the time blocked. Good friend100 22:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Your block expires in like three hours. — -- John Reaves (talk) 05:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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having fun with the block

what did you do during your block? I hope you had a fun time.

And I hope you learned your lesson. This fully shows that Gaogouli is Chinese and that you should not try to make Gaogouli look Korean. Even Selket agrees with you. Chinesepride 18:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Dictionary

I gave you a link to "administer" in the dictionary before. Please learn the English meaning for this term. The fact is both sides are administering the island in the sense of the template (it doesn't give us an option for "claimant"). If you have a problem with it, talk on the template page, not on the Dokdo page. --Cheers, Komdori 20:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Check Kuril Islands dispute. Does Japan monitor and patrol around the islands? I'm sure they do, like Dokdo but does that justify that the article can be written "administered by Russia and Japan"? Maybe you should make your argument there. Good friend100 20:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Since you seem very familiar with it, perhaps you could. We treat articles individually. If I propose a change there and they say "look at the Dokdo page" then neither can be changed. It doesn't work that way. --Cheers, Komdori 21:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I thought you are retired Good friend? Anyways, I have a little suspicion that Kodori is actually a Japanese acting as a Korean, because, he says exactly what Japanese users would say, and have very little loyalty towards Korea but Japan. I know that it is immportant to be neutral, but he is too pro-Japanese. I hate to feel it this way, but, I have a great suspicion that Komdori is Japanese. Also, wife do not normally say "Komdori" to her husband.

If he is a Japanese User:

He named his user a Korean name to trick. 
 
He pretends that he is an american just to act like as if he is neutral.. 

If he is not:

He must moved to USA when he was young. 

He must not have any Korean education. 

He had some American and Japanese influence while he was at USA.

He must not know his identity.

I hope you take this seriously. I am extremly sorry Komdori if you are reading this, but I have a little suspicion. Prove yourself that you are not Japanese, then I will be really glad.--Kingj123 21:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

After discussing with Wikimachine, I'll try to take the initiative toward working toward some more positive changes on Korean articles. I had originally thought that other Koreans might rather have a fellow Korean help get them acceptable (for example, removing bad photos, and so on).

My wife does call me Komdori, it's just a pet name. If it was not unique I could not use it as my Misplaced Pages name. I will not tell you my nickname for her, although it is also a Korean word *smile*. Try to assume good faith. If I was a Japanese person I would not care about Goguryeo, for example or other issues like this. --Cheers, Komdori 22:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

No really! I am actually French and I am claiming to be Korean. Userboxes, in my opinion, are just a waste of space and users can make any claims they would like. Yes, I suspect Komdori is not Korean. I have not seen him fully agree with any of the Korean parties. But Kingj123, you shouldn't care. Don't gripe about Misplaced Pages because you don't agree with something. I simply see Komdori as another editor who disagrees with me often. Now isn't that easy to do.

As for consistency, a poll at Senkaku Islands was held, affected by what was happening at Dokdo. Misplaced Pages calls for consistency. That is why Senkaku Islands is aptly named for its commoness. I'm sure the current government that administers Senkaku had a role in the poll. Good friend100 23:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

So in your opinion, both are locked at their respective positions (Senkaku and Dokdo) forever, no way to fix it unless we do a joint poll? Read up on Misplaced Pages policies... that's not how it's supposed to work. --Cheers, Komdori 23:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Not locked forever, it just doesn't make sense how the Senkaku poll was caused by the events at Dokdo, but Dokdo must be isolated by itself. You say this article has to be isolated and dealt with alone, yet you support using "Dokdo/Takeshima", which is modeled after another article, and something not recommended by Misplaced Pages. Good friend100 00:22, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

re:Regarding Wikimachine

You missed my point, Good Friend. I said it was bias that he/she ignored socks that support his/her own position. You and I both know that if it were the other way around, Wikimachine would've been the first to notice it. Parsecboy 03:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Notice of 3RR violation report

Unless I miscounted, you had at least six reverts in the last 24 hours on Goguryeo, which has been noted on the 3RR noticeboard here. If they are not reverts, etc., please clarify on that page. --Cheers, Komdori 18:29, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

So...I don't care, have fun finding my reverts. Good friend100 18:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

You might as well tell me that you filed a report against me. If you think my feelings get hurt or something, stop making ur comments on my talk page like somebody else reported me. I personally don't care that you reported me and I'm not surprised you would report me. Good friend100 18:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I did say, "unless I miscounted." I didn't mean to try to hide anything. Last time it wasn't me who reported you; that time I just happened to notice and thought you might like the heads up. --Cheers, Komdori 18:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah Good friend100 16:43, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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Request reason:

Users like Jiejunkong, Naus, and Wikipokemon have made rude comments and have a generally bad attitude. I have warned them but they do not heed. I am requesting unblock because I feel I have not done anything except revert their edits on Goguryeo which I find to be very annoying. i.e. pasting "no reference" tags all over the article. They are also adding POV edits.

Decline reason:

Your opinion of other editors is irrelevant for the purposes of this review. WP:3RR was clearly violated and for that alone your block is upheld. --  Netsnipe  ►  18:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

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PS: Please archive your talk page because you're wasting our bandwidth and yours keeping it this long and redownloading it in full each time you read or edit it. --  Netsnipe  ►  18:58, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Well I can't archive it while I'm blocked =\ Good friend100 19:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

update

Hi! You have made edits regarding the position of an individual scholar at Harvard University in the USA. That scholar finished his post-doc in 2005 and is now the director of the Early Korean Project at the same university. Mumun 無文 20:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, when I first saw the article, I jumped at the word "Harvard" and thought he was a professor. 100% my fault on that one. Good friend100 20:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

No worries, eh. Keep on keeping on! The EKP website actually does not list his current position. ^-^ Mumun 無文 20:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

This is your third 3RR block in a week and second in two days, so the block length is longer than the standard twenty-four hours. -- tariqabjotu 21:10, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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Request reason:

It was a misunderstanding because the sentence I changed was confusing and the grammar was wrong and I simply wished to make it clearly. I don't have any intentions to vandalize Misplaced Pages or cause trouble.

Decline reason:

You are well aware of WP:3RR, this block is valid. — Yamla 21:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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removed trolling containing veiled threat

Some troll left a very hostile message here. I have removed it -- hope you won't mind. Mumun 無文 19:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

STOP vandalizing wikipedia

Did you make that announcement at the Silkroad Forums that wikipedia sucks and that people should vandalize wikipedia?

If you did, you should leave wikipedia forever because that is unacceptable. Telling people to vandalize wikipedia means that you vandalized it yourself. Just because you got blocked doesn't mean you can go around and rant that wikipedia sucks.

Nationalistic people like you who violate wikipedia policies like 3RR need to be blocked indef. Gaogouli is chinese and most editors agree with that. Only because you and the stupid POV Korean editors manipulate the place, the article stays at Goguryeo. Please stop vandalizing wikipedia and stop spreading words that wikipedia sucks. This is your last warning. Zhang123 18:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I have done nothing wrong, and I think you should end the personal attacks. I did not make that account on the forums. And I am positive that this is a malicious attempt to simply degrade my image here. Good friend100 23:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that anyone who reads the post over at Silkroad can tell that it's someone trying to do what you suspect, set you up. We've disagreed how many times in the past, and I have never seen you have the hatred toward the project that the post over there suggests. You may have violated 3RR, but it was mostly because you were getting caught up in the moment or whatever. If you read the post on Silkroad, it's clear that someone's trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. I suppose we can never be certain who is leaving the strongly anti-whatever messages, but the safest thing to do is just ignore them. Your edit history speaks for itself. Probably I'm the last person you want defending you, but don't let a guy like this (with all vandal/trollish edits) get to you. PS, now that your block is over maybe consider archiving your talk page (it is pretty big). You might want to consider leaving a link either on your user or talk page to that particular post and saying that it was not you who left it in case someone stumbled across it or sees a link to it somewhere else (Goguryeo talk page, for example). --Cheers, Komdori 23:54, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm ignoring these people and I'm letting nobody get to me. I'm not weak and I don't cry when people make me look bad or add crap all over this page. You never even give an ounce of a support to the Goguryeo/Dokdo/Korea side while claiming to be Korean so I'm just going to ignore all the trolls. Good friend100 23:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad you're not letting anyone get to you. I guess you missed all the vandalism I've undone to those articles by the guys like who left the message here. I also give significant support to Goguryeo and Korean articles. As for Liancourt Rocks, that's really the best name, who knows what happens tomorrow, and this way the article is at least semi-stable. I know we've disagreed in the past, but I hope we can work more evenly on an article sometime, you have a lot of energy. When the article is about a controversial topic, though, it seems everyone wastes a lot of that good energy arguing. Maybe we'll do better on a purely Korean article. --Cheers, Komdori 23:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Gaogouli tribute

Where does it say that tributary relations ended in 106?

According to Samguk Sagi (Korean primary source):

Year fifteen (656), summer, fifth month, iron fell like rain. Winter, twelfth month, envoys were sent to Tang to offer congratulations to the imperial crown prince.

Also, do not vandalism my talk page, thanks. Assault11 22:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

That is not vandalism, only a warning. Its highly offensive that you think warnings are vandalism, or if it were true I would be filing reports on Endroit and Komdori.

Again, Misplaced Pages leans more on other sources than primary sources for articles. And again your interpretation can be different from others. I see that sentence you put as a present to the imperial crown prince (for reasons I do not know why) and that it is "congratulating".

I am proceeding to revert your edits again. If you continue this, I will file a report against you. Good friend100 02:40, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I am fully aware of the 3RR rules of Misplaced Pages. Since this "warning" came from the same person involved in the editing dispute, I don't believe you are in a position to issue out warnings.

Regarding the primary sources, keep in mind that ALL secondary sources are derivatives of primary sources. If you read the footnotes on the bottom of the article, you would realize that these were indeed, forms of tribute paid to the Tang.

If you are still not convinced, here's a secondary source to confirm it:

Peace was maintained with the Koguryo after they sent tribute to the Tang in 619 until the Tang vassal state Silla complained that Koguryo and Paekche attacked them in 643. Assault11 03:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

My source is still valid. What do you make of this contradiction between authors? It simply shows that people are uninformed and that we do not know enough about Goguryeo to make any assumptions, even if they are sourced. Good friend100 21:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

The reason why I believe that my source is correct (and that Goguryeo did not pay tribute to China for a long time) is because of the endless wars they fought. Now, do you think its reasonable that Goguryeo would give money to its enemy? It simply does not make sense. I find that China has very flimsy claims on tributary statuses, agreeing with historians' papers. Good friend100 21:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Your source only made reference to the ending of tributes the Han Dynasty. Gaogouli continued to sent tributes to Han's successors. Assault11 23:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Here it says that Throughout Koguryo’s existence as a state, its kings typically engaged Chinese leaders in warfare rather than as allies. Again, it does not make any sense that Goguryeo gave China money or gifts while they were an enemy. Goguryeo did not pay any tributes to China after 106 AD. Gifts or money sent to China were probably signs of friendship or agreement to trade, etc during peacetime. Good friend100 23:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Re. Regarding Liancourt Rocks & Senkaku Islands

Hello. It's true that I'm still re-reviewing the move proposal, but as I've already stated before I find it very unlikely that I decide to overturn it again. Answering to your concerns:

• My decision to close the poll and move was not abrupt at all. Move proposals listed at WP:RM have a 5-day period for the discussions to occur, after which they are to be closed by an admin. This particular move proposal had entered the backlog for 2 days already and just couldn't stay there forever.
• I listened to the opinions of those who contacted me and found their arguments sound. I'm also listening to the opinions of users who dispute my second decision. Their arguments are also sound, which doesn't make things easier.
• Sock abuse happened on both sides, and I've already disregarded it. I'm currently finishing reviewing arguments from both sides, where Dokdo supporters claim that the rocks are under Korean control, and where Liancourt Rocks supporters claim that the latter is a title that conforms to WP:NPOV.

I've checked the Senkaku move proposal and I do not agree with its closure. A user who participated in the discussion should not have closed it. A new discussion on the matter should most definitely take place. Regards, Húsönd 01:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Leaving Misplaced Pages

Hey Good friend100, are you leaving Misplaced Pages?

I understand perfectly how Misplaced Pages has diverted your focus from school & most likely have caused your grades to drop, and absolutely, if you feel so, you must leave.

Like I said at the Liancourt Rocks talk page, it was a good fight to the finish. Regardless of what these self-esteemed "NPOV" users say, we know what we are talking about. And no, I won't say any cliches. I'll make it definite and clear so that everyone visiting your talk page can read this.

You are not a nationalist and POV extremist. But you want to let other people know of your country & culture. Because, to the many eyes around the world, Korea is a 3rd world country, uncivilized, remote, and filled with cheap labor and factory workers. The superior western people can determine the neutral point of view for Korea. They can speak for us. The shear arrogance has allowed these people to determine the neutral viewpoint on all controversial matters that could not be solved by even the wisest and the most cooperative men on Earth.

And what are you supposed to do? Sit around and do nothing? No, you came to Misplaced Pages to develop Korea-related articles, so that at worst people with will can have the resources to learn about Korea and speak for Korea that it really is. It was a good fight to the finish.

After you graduate college & get a job, come back. Reopen your account. We'll have many more members by then. Good luck, high five. (Wikimachine 02:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC))

Yeah, I actually brought that up long time ago in our WP:KO talk - about keeping cool in heated discussions. No, I was never angry, just frustrated. But you're right too. The amount of frustration can make you go crazy. My parents are also telling me to quit Misplaced Pages because my grades have gone down significantly. So, I think it's best for you to stay away. I'll continue a bit more and see. But come back whenever. Again, good luck high five. Remember that my e-mail address is on my user page. Contact me whenever things fit. (Wikimachine 02:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC))

도와주세요

Please help me to expand an article concerning Balhae i'have found that Balhae previously controlled region located on the west of Sungari/Songhua river those are named 약홀주(若忽州),목저주(木底州) and 현도주 (玄兎州). i need further infos about those provinces which were probably lost during Balhae history maybe between 750-820 because i'm sure that :

- Under 대무예/무왕 reign, 장문휴 launched a naval campaign against Tang at 등주(登州) in the Shandong Peninsula in 732 (maybe from 약홀주 ). I dont think that Balhae navy skirt/bypass the Korean peninsula controlled at this time by Silla but rather left 약홀주 (corresponding to the actual Dandong,the only "window" (port/city) located on the Yellow) shores to lauch it.

- In addition to that Balhae lost those regions before 820 (see List of Provinces of Balhae in 820).

My Korean proficiency level is a bit low to allow me to write 2/3 setences on those 3 former provinces of Balhae.감사합니다.Whlee 08:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I found a list of links :

• http://www.eurasianhistory.com/data/articles/m1/1672.html
• http://www.eurasianhistory.com/data/articles/m1/1670.html
• http://www.koreandb.net/dictionaries/Viewframe.aspx?id=4111&ser=2
• http://www.newmurim.net/newmurim/main300/x1-4.htm
• http://mahan.wonkwang.ac.kr/source/Balhea/10.htm
• http://www.thinkpool.com/mini/bbs/pdsRead.jsp?hid=think2001&ctg=3&slt=&key=&page=5&number=366712&i_max=00005588599999
• http://blog.joins.com/media/folderListSlide.asp?uid=shim4707&folder=35&list_id=8043592
• http://enc.daum.net/dic100//viewContents.do?articleID=b12s0311a
• http://www.reportnet.co.kr/detail/150/149519.html
• http://www.encyber.com/search_w/ctdetail.php?gs=ws&gd=&cd=&q=&p=&masterno=71185&contentno=71185

Give me some time for the Balhae sources. Good friend100 11:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

알개습니다 고마워요!Whlee 12:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

On tributary relations

Goodfriend, I too think you should stop your edits on Goguryeo's tributary relations. I know what Assault11 doing is wrong and that the "Political connections..." section should be removed, but your eidts are not very well-grounded either. What Byington refers to in the source is a client state relationship, not a tributary relationship. The two relationships are entirely differnet political relationships. Tributary relationships were the means to cultural exchange and trade in the ancient past under the Chinese world order. Of course, using those relationships to assume some kind of a special "political connections" is factually incorrect, but that Goguryeo engaged in tributary relationship with Chinese kingdoms is a fact. Cydevil38 21:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

If you didn't know, I'm not denying the fact. The site says "Although Chinese histories treat Koguryo during these times as a tributary of the Chinese emperor, in reality the emperor was powerless to exercise any direct control over Koguryo or its kings" Good friend100 21:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd rather see that as a clarification of the nature of tributary relationship rather than as a denial of the existense of a tributary relationship. Again, that section should be rewritten, and will be, but it will take some time to get other matters sorted out first. Cydevil38 22:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

List of tributaries of Imperial China

is repeatedly reverting sourced information on this article.

The information is clearly cited yet he deletes it. He seems to delete information that he doesn't like, whether they are unsourced or sourced.

Assault is also deleting warning tags calling them vandalism, and is breaking Misplaced Pages policies.

I am tired of his stubborness and I am requesting administrative action against him, thank you. Good friend100 21:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Source clearly does not support his claim. No where in the source has there been any indication that tributes ended in 106 CE. I have provided sources (both primary and secondary) that confirms the exact opposite (see talk page). Good friend100 has been criticized by other editors regarding this issue . Assault11 21:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution. There's no blocking needed here unless the revert-warring continues. -- tariqabjotu 21:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

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Takeshima on the map

The map actually has the word Takeshima on it; that's why it needs to be reported that way. If a map says Dokdo on it, we'll report that, too. It's important to stick to what the maps say rather than putting our own interpretation on them. —LactoseTI 20:28, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I stand by my comment from the 3RR incident report page. Good friend100 20:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Well try to stand by Misplaced Pages policy instead. Censoring what maps say isn't going to be tolerated or accepted, and if you continue to remove verifiable information, you will be blocked. —LactoseTI 20:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

It says that it is unclear whether or not the Japanese government fabricated the map or not. And how do you know if it says "Takeshima" on the map? Its too small for me to read. Good friend100 20:51, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

That "fabricated" comment is just left by some POV editor. Someone will get around to removing it eventually. As for the size, zoom in on it, it's tiny, but readable. I agree we shouldn't use Takeshima unless it's actually on a map, but on a Japanese map when it does appear, it's perfectly appropriate (and essential) to mention it. —LactoseTI 20:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Thats all your interpretation on who left the comment. Do you know how to read Japanese? Good friend100 20:56, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Manchuria Debate

Hiya. After I offered my 3rd Opinion and got smacked int he chops for it, I decided that there were better ways to spend my day rather than deal with people who were either racist or taking the article far too personally for anyone's good. User:Cydevil38 has also contacted me on this topic as well, and you can see how I advised him as to the process to move along the path to resolution, the last option being ArbCom. You will want to work with him in this matter, as he appears to be concerned over the toxic nature the discussion has taken on.

I have recommended that those people who are being the most disruptive can be watched very closely for 3RR or uncivility violations, for which they can be blocked (it will be important to make sure that they actually violate this policy very clearly). This should only be used on the most disruptive editors on both sides, as it is almost always the case that the people in the middle are the ones who actually find a compromise and consensus, without the polarizing influences of one side or the other.

The next step after "helping" these people garner 3RR blocks is to pursue an RfC in the matter. This is the logical next step, as discussion on the page, and private discussion betweeen editors, and 3rd Opinion have not served to resolve the issue. An RfC will ask for the comment from one or more admins. Those people who have accumulated a poor reputation (say, from uncivility or 3RR blocks) are looked upon poorly by admins, who will see the edit-warring for what it is, and block those most guilty of interfering with the editing of the article.

If that doesn't do the trick, ArbCom is the final destination. There, they will not look at the point in contention. They will look at everyone's behavior in the article, and their penalties for those who have been impolite or have accumulated infractions will be dealt with in exceeedingly stringent methods, up to and including being banned permanently from editing WP.

It is for this reason that you must not engage in edit-warring or 3RR violation over this matter. Revert as necessary, but don't break the rules. Tomorrow is another day, and all that. Try very, very hard to stay above the fray (this from someone who has learned the hard way about that). This protects you when the matter escalates, as you can claim honestly to be on the side of right.

I will take a look at the discussion, and maybe offer some comments on the User talk pages to cvalm things down. It quite likely will have no effect, but it may be worth the attempt. - Arcayne () 21:01, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I understand, you are right about the weight of an editor's comment according to his/her history. As for myself, I got 4 blocks under my belt. I got filed again, but I'll try to not edit war, thank you for the information. Good friend100 21:04, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

On Wikiquette alert

Goodfriend, I think it's better if you just stop revert warring and take Hong Qi Gong's proposal here and cooperate on that new article on Tributary Relations in East Asia(or Asia) which can clarify the nature of tributary relationships. Perhaps in that article, you can take Goguryeo as an example to show readers how tributary relations functioned. Cydevil38 00:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd disagree. Nlu recently signed a RfC User Conduct on Assault11. I doubt he had the authority to deal with Assault11 back then, though I do think it would've been better had RfC User Conduct on Assault11 been filed earlier on before all this ruckus started. And Endroit is trying to put a stop to the current RfC User Conduct for reasons I think we both are well aware of. Cydevil38 00:44, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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Request for Mediation

You have been blocked

Per your continued edit warring, most recently at Goguryeo-China wars, you have been blocked for 1 week. As always, you may contest the block with {{unblock|Reason here}}. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 18:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Good friend100 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

No reason

Decline reason:

No reason given to unblock. — Yamla 18:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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Good friend100 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

The only thing you going to say is either that I am already aware of 3RR, my block is justified for 1 week because I have been blocked before. Let me just say this that I am not the only one at fault, if you admins would even pay attention to my calls for RfC and third opinions(which you miserably failed to do) and RfC's on users like one, although Arcayne told me that he "got smacked" by the CPOV editors for commenting. We have no help to compromise Goguryeo related articles because there are not enough third opinions. Anyhow, thats your decision, since you don't know what else is going on behind there. Oh, your also going to say that this request template is not a way for more complaints by me. Anyways, thanks for the block! I need a wikibreak anyways and I'm studying for testing out (on Health from my school) later this week so whoever timed the 1 week was pretty good at it. =) Good friend100 18:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You are already aware of 3RR, your block is justified because you have been blocked before, and this request template is not a way for complaints. Enjoy your break, and good luck on your test. — Kafziel 17:56, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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That's all good. Well done :D G1ggy /_Contribs 00:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

No idea who the next admin will be. Could be anyone. As for persuasion, you gotta just have a stronger argument and signs that your view is the consensus. Goes for both sides of the issue. --Woohookitty 00:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Probably not a bad idea. --Woohookitty 02:38, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Your comments on my talk page

In response to your comments on my talk page, I get no amusement from you being blocked. It doesn't matter whether you are "right" or "wrong," or whether or not you had good intentions with your reverts. Reverting 5 times in 8 hours is disruptive and a clear violation of the 3RR. I'm not sure what you mean that you're "not going to put up with this," but I suggest you keep a cool head and refrain from this kind of disruptive behavior, and you won't have to worry at all about being blocked. —LactoseTI 06:53, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

What the administrator did is what he did and theres not much I can do about it. And I don't care what you want to say to me, you certainly don't help with anything here either, like not warning editors who make personal attacks. Note that your friend Komdori has been edit warring too and its not fair how I only get blocked and he's happy with his edits. Oh, well, no point screaming "its not fair" now, is there? The mighty administrators must do their job, right? I'm not going to file a report on him because theres no point in it and theres no point playing at that level you like to play at.

Happy editing!!! For some reason, the administrators are really good at timing their blocks on me (three days, if you didn't already gleefully check the noticboard). I'm going to Korea (south, just to clarify) on 6/25/07 (which is almost three days away) and hopefully I can take some pictures there anbd upload them here and not get my talk page filled up with your/Komdori's tags on them. Talk to you and the other editors when I get back, which is probably in late August or something. Have fun editing and maybe there will be some improvement around here when I get back. Good friend100 13:58, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Now that I'm out of the way for 2 months you can have fun. Keep a cool head right? Yeah, sure, I'll do that. In fact, I'll apologize. And in fact, I'll refrain from this kind of disruptive behavior. Just know that I'm not an idiot and I'm going to make sure that other editors who need to be punished will be punished. And your right, it doesn't matter whether I'm "right" or "wrong", (politics don't really matter here) just join the rat race and bow down to the rules here, and your fine. Hahaha! Again, I'll be gone for 2 months, so if you leave a message or something I won't get back to it. Good friend100 14:15, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Good friend100, you left a note on my talk page asking me to look into various matters concerning Goguryeo-China Wars. What is immediately apparent to me is that you and other editors are very stressed by this historical topic. Reviewing your edit history I see you've been entirely engaged in the subject of Korean history. Since you've asked my advice I suggest that you avoid conflict in this topic, and that you find some less contentious subjects to edit as well. When we only edit articles with disputes the process can seem like a battle that only has winners and losers. Misplaced Pages is a collaboration, one in which everyone should be a winner. Achieving consensus may mean we won't get our way on everything, or that we have to settle for something which is only acceptable but not ideal. That's OK too.

Since you are taking a short involuntary break, and a long voluntary one, I urge you to put Misplaced Pages and it's disputes out of your mind. When you come back, I urge you to find some new interests to supplement Korean history. Meanwhile I'll see what help I can bring to Goguryeo-China Wars. Cheers, ·:· Will Beback ·:· 18:43, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

re:personal attacks

Saying that I've heard some "fucking outlandish stuff " is not a personal attack, so don't falsely accuse me of that. Moreover, Misplaced Pages is not censored. Parsecboy 11:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not angry with Ksyrie at all. It's just mind blowing that someone actually thinks that government censorship of free thought is a good thing. It really is 1984 over there. Parsecboy 12:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Blocks

Hey good friend, remember that you can bring in more people into a dispute. I think that you've been blocked for absolutely no reasons other than 3RR - which you could have easily avoided. Reverting is a form of testing consensus. As long as you have more consensus, you can avoid 3RR. (Wikimachine 18:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC))

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Rfc

See Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Jiejunkong. (Wikimachine 03:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC))

Umm, Good friend, I'm sure you've had enough trouble w/ these guys. Could you approve? It'll get deleted in ~24 hours. (Wikimachine 14:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC))

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Thank you for your contribution

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Hmm.....

Are you really retired?Kfc1864 07:11, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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welcome back

welcome back, I'm glad you changed your mind. However, you do owe the community an apology for inciting vandalism on Misplaced Pages. Odst 00:46, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

1. http://www.t-net.ne.jp/~keally/kofun.html
2. ^ Chinese History Record Book of Song : 宋書 列傳第五十七 夷蠻 : 詔除武使持節、都督倭新羅任那加羅秦韓慕韓六國諸軍事、安東大將軍、倭王。興死，弟武立，自稱使持節、都督倭百濟新羅任那加羅秦韓慕韓七國諸軍事、安東大將軍、倭國王
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6. From Paekche to Origin of Yamato
7. George Sanson (1961) A History of Japan 1334-1615, Stanford University Press, p. 352, based on the archives of Mōri clan
8. George Sanson (1961) A History of Japan 1334-1615, Stanford University Press, p. 352, based on the archives of Mōri clan