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Regarding the "Vintagekits affair" I want to set some thoughts and diffs on paper so that I can be clear how I see this problem. I doing it here rather than on a processor file because it is easier and clearer with diffs etc. Some of these diffs may prove to be important many others a waste of time.

The case is very complicated indeed on first sight and appears to be all about a highly disruptive editor Vintagekits (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and another group of editors who claim their sole objective was to legitimately restrain him. We then have a variety of subjects from the Anglo-Irish problem, football, boxing and, at first, surprisingly the British baronets. However on closer inspection these subjects are not surprising, the first three are all common interests in Ireland and the British baronets at least on wikipedia has been seen as the British Establishment seen in Ireland as the common oppressor. This is because these baronets have been mostly written by a limited group of editors who also share an anti-Irish republican POV.

The problems defined in this case are in fact, at their hub, political and little different to the ongoing fights on Misplaced Pages between the former Soviet/Polish editors, or those on other Wikipedias between separatists and nationalists. This is a common and probably unsolvable wikipedia problem. The Anglo-Irish problem will always be festering somewhere on wikipedia as this very recent thread proves Here is an earlier diff from Feb 07 The whole crowd are fighting over an Irish page on WP:ANI - Kittybrewster was blocked for insulting Vintagekits at the conclusion of this episode. There seems little to choose between them.

However, we are here so we have to examine this specific little case within the larger unsolvable problem. Let us forget for a moment the numerous allegations of sock puppetry and concentrate on the hub of the problem. We have two warring groups of editors for the sake of ease let us call them the "Irish" and the "Establishment".

The present problem rose to flash-point with this block . However the problem has been ongoing and prolonged

Those involved

The Irish

These include good and sound editors who have never been in any form of wiki-trouble, however this group have become personified by one editor - Vintagekits (VK). VK likes boxing and football and writing about the Irish troubles which not unnaturally he occasionally sees from an Irish viewpoint. VK's has a huge personal problem - he opens his mouth before engaging his brain. He is impetuous and volatile, quick to anger and easily provoked. He is also probably dyslexic, which has lead some, very wrongly, to think he is not that bright - as a result he is sometimes patronised - then caught up in his anger and inability to put proper words quickly on paper he lashes out. When he does so he uses the language of the gutter. While no excuse such words do not have the same shock value on the streets of Belfast as they do in some other places. Equally hard to understand is that VK threatened an editor in a real life situation. We need to examine why this happened, and while this is rightly a huge Misplaced Pages crime, are there any mitigating circumstances at all. Is there any remote reason why the usual sanctions for such a serious crime such not be levelled upon him and a lesser sanction imposed?

The Establishment

A group of editors whose leaders appear to be User: Kittybrewster, User: Major Bonkers, User: David Lauder and User: Counter-revolutionary They disclose a lot of personal information about themselves on wikipedia. We know in real life that Kittybrewster is a second generation baronet and the son of a conservative politician and brother of another. Hence he has deliberately portrayed himself as a member of what is known as the British establishment. Major Bonkers on his talk page tells us "I am an old mucker of Kittybrewster" so we know they are known to each other in real life. We are also told Bonkers was educated at Harrow - one of Britain's most renowned and prestigious public school, known for educating many members of the British establishment (Kittybrewster went to Eton). Then we have David Lauder, he and Kittybrewster are the almost exclusive editors of Lauder Baronets. So what is wrong with establishment group so far? Nothing at all. They are a group or editors who write chiefly small stubs about little known baronets, there is also a detectable interest in the Anglo-Irish side of the British gentry. The portray themselves as upper-class and educated. All of this is perfectly normal and acceptable wikipedia behaviour but they have deliberately portrayed themselves as Establishment figures - they have also deliberately blurred their true identities with their wiki-selves. We know so much about them - that accusations of POV are more easily levelled than is possible concerning more anonymous editors.

In addition to but not part of the group we have User:W. Frank. A different kettle of fish altogether. He has also been plagued by accusations of account abuse, a charge which User: Fred Bauder has absolved following a private phone call. W Frank also like to edit anonymously.

The problem

So where is the true problem? In both real life and in Misplaced Pages Vintagekits hates the Establishment, and the Establishment hate Vintagekits. It is not surprisingly very political. Vintagekits - like many many of his compatriots, with some justification, feels that Ireland has been oppressed by the British establishment. He sees then as having murdered freedom fighters, and being responsible for huge amounts of death, murder and civil unrest in his country. In turn the Establishment feel that VK symbolises a group who are responsible for the deaths of thousands of Britons - servicemen, women and children, and indeed the IRA was responsible for such actions. In my experience the Irish republican supporters do not hate the British people per se, but that section of society that has always, they feel, oppressed them, this is the Ango-Irish aristocracy and the more right wing British governments and their supporters. Misplaced Pages's "Establishment group" have deliberately and openly identified themselves with both these sections of society. They are allowed to be so. However there is a question to be answered have they been provocatively so? Have their edits been always been for the good of wikipedia or the good of their own agenda? Or has VK just decided - here are a bunch of British toffs, I'm going to give them a good kicking?

Is it fair for the Establishment to view Vintagekits in this light and is it fair for VK to view the Establishment in this way so we need to look at the diffs that have brought about this situation.

Diffs showing VK and Co provoking the Establishment

These are clever edits. Seemingly harmless, they infuriate and embarrass the recipient as they are mostly justified.

• 26 April 2007. Irish editors accuse the establishment of sockpuppetry.
• and again accusations of sock puppetry and vote stacking. However unfortunately for "The Establishment" their guilt is confirmed by a member of the arbcom User: Matthew Brown (T:C) 03:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
• 23 May 207. VK planning to nominate one of Kittybrewster's Arbuthnots for deletion. I don't think VK is that interested in the Arbuthnots but he new they were all being scrutinised and many found lacking and being deleted, so I suspect he was just jumping on the bandwagon. VK did nominate the page and it was subsequently deleted . I and another highly respected admin were looking individually at the all the Arbuthnot pages, and checking the references of all. Had VK not nominated that page it would certainly have been nominated eventually as part of that procedure. However, by this time many others were nominating these pages completely unconnected with Kittybrewster or the Irish editors. The "Kittybrewster page" were seen as a Misplaced Pages problem.
• 10 August 2007. VK edits one of David Lauder's pages. Asking for a cite, not a bad edit but probably made to irritate rather than a genuine thirst for knowledge. He had been asked by User: Rockpocket to stay away from them at the time

Diffs showing the Establishment provoking VK and co

• 1 February 2007. Kittybrewster is banned for attacking Vintagekits. He claims it was a spelling error but "T" and "K" are far apart on a keyboard. It seems VK is not the only one capable of crude behaviour. Kittybrewster cannot have the high moral ground and behave like this.
• 12 March. David Lauder was blocked for this attack on Vintagekits.
• Counter-revolutionary attacks an irish editor for voting delete on a page.
• 13 March 2007 and here 10 August VK asks a polite and reasonable question and is attacked in response by the Establishment editors.
• 8 May 2007. This time Kittybrewster has made a template to denote editors he considered Irish Republican, it took the form of " is a member of the Irish Republican Cabal" (ironically named the IRC Template) it had a link to the Irish Republicanism WikiProject, and it was added next to editor's names in an AfD debate.
• 4 August 2007. Astrotrain who has been asked to stay away from VKs page
• 5 August 2007. David Lauder making an attack on Vintagekits.
• 20 August 2007 As the storm rages already David Lauder decided to instigate a conversation insulting VK
• 20 August 2007. Kittybrewster arrives, with no reason, to gloat over VK and his latest block. Doubtless trying to provoke another outburst.
• 22 August 2007. VK in deep trouble already, but still they cannot stay away.
• 23 August 2007. A particularly foul and unpleasant remark from Kittybrewster kicking VK when he is already down

General, but interesting, diffs and links

• 11 April 2007. An anon claiming to be W Frank gives information on his true name following allegations that he is in fact the late Gaimhreadhan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log).
• Gaimhreadhan's block log showing multiple blocks and accusations of sock puppetry
• 26 July 2007. VK at his very worst. Edits such as this VK needs to learn are totally unacceptable. He needs a very official warning that one more such edit from today onwards, whatever the provocation, and he is out with no return ticket.
• 27 July 2007. and again this time to Rockpocket. He later apologised.
• 20th August 2007. VK calm and collected, as he can and often is, gives his view on the matter.
• 22 August 2007. A more humble VK assuming the role in which the Establishment like to cast him
• 21 August 2007. Edit by Aatomic1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) an editor whose edits seem to annoy the Irish.
• A section from Aatomic's talk page. This is typical of an ongoing and probably perpetual wiki-battle between English and Irish editors.
• 23 August 2007. BHG's assessment of the affair.
• Gaimhreadhan's page. Not sure what this one is about, probably just Kittybrewster having a dig at me .Giano 14:21, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

On the evening of 24 August 2007, as I tell W Frank I will bot be sidetracked or give up on this , there is a sudden marshalling/spamming session from both Kittybrewster and W Frank - now why should that be?

Kittybrewster This is the edit posted to those below

1. 21:56, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Galloglass (?Hi) (top)
2. 21:50, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Stramash (?Editing) (top)
3. 21:48, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Ginggangsgoolies (?Scattering discussions) (top)
4. 21:47, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Betacommand (?Your Bot Is Being Disruptive)
5. 21:46, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Badgerpatrol (?personal attacks)
6. 21:45, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Quick Reference (?Dundalk) (top)
7. 21:44, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Thepiper (?Time to swot up on our policies) (top)
8. 21:43, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Scolaire (?Back, sort of)
9. 21:42, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Theoldanarchist (Arbcom case) (top)
10. 21:41, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Derry Boi (?Irish articles assessments) (top)
11. 21:40, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Scalpfarmer (?A Request) (top)
12. 21:39, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Domer48 (?Cheers) (top)
13. 21:38, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Brixton Busters (?M62 coach bombing) (top)
14. 21:34, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration (?Involved parties)

W. Frank This is the edit posted to those below

1. 22:14, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Badgerpatrol (?Arbcom case) (top)
2. 22:13, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Betacommand (?Arbcom case)
3. 22:10, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Astrotrain (?Arbcom case) (top)
4. 22:09, 24 August 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:David Lauder (?Arbcom case) (top)

The both have in common

• Badgerpatrol (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) who is far from happy and has a less that satisfactory reply .
• Astrotrain (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Others such as Scolaire (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) seem perplexed at being approached by Kittybrewster

Ginggangsgoolies (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is almost certainly a sock. Counter-revolutionary has asked with some justification if it Vintagekits. I have wondered that too but the style and use of language does not sound like the VK .

My own interactions with both groups

Irish

Very little interaction with this group. I have written a few Irish pages, which include, Richard Cassels, Edward Lovett Pearce, James Gandon and Simon Byrne. During the writing of which I received help from the Irish editors - they don't seem to have ever objected to anything I have written concerned with Ireland but then I've never touched a controversial subject. I have though on a few occasions bollocked VK for some of his more outlandish edits and behaviour but so far have never received any abuse in return, in fact he is usually so contrite I regret being so blunt and it is me left feeling guilty.

Vinagekits like his "opponents" has used sock-puppets, interestingly though others have tried to frame him by pretending to be his sockpuppet .

• 21 August 2007. I give VK some advice
• 21 August. I tell VK to stop squabbling
• 20 August 2007. Advice to all and my first comment on the current problem

Establishment

Kittybrewster

This group of editors I first came across when I was looking into a series of stubs written by Kittybrewster (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) concerning his own family. My initial thoughts were that this was an interesting subject which was being attacked by a group of editors unfairly. I offered to help Kitytybrewster and we exchanged two or three emails to that effect. It was clear that he felt beleaguered and in need of support. His pages were of poor quality and I was not surprised that they were being nominated for deletion I explained this too him and offered to help. Even after it was obvious that he was a problem editor . In order to show him how stubs could be expanded I turned one if his stubs Harriet Arbuthnot into a mediocre featured article. Sadly it soon became clear to me that he did not want help improving his pages, in fact he wanted other people to improve them, while he wrote little more than the title. This is not a real problem, it happens all the time and "from little acorns mighty oaks do grow" The difference here was that Kittybrewster wanted his entire extended family represented on Misplaced Pages without deference to notability or indeed accurate references. This is a problem. He is also seemed to want power of veto over the way in which others expanded his stubs. Kittybrewster claimed all of this was personal, and accused multiple editors who had been nominating the pages for deletion of harassment VK had nominated one of Kittybrewster's pages for deletion, and it was subsequently deleted . When one of Kittybrewster's accusations received a response he did not like then he always blanked his page.

It was about this time that I realised Kittybrewster was part of a wider group all with shared ,if limited, interests. None of them wrote pages to what I consider a decent standard, but again that is not a problem to anyone except me. I have very high standards and try to only apply them to myself. I became concerned however that some of Kittybrewster's facts and information did not stand up to too much verification and with many others I soon became caught up in the "Arbuthnots for deletion" campaign which saw many of Kittybrewster's pages deleted for varying reasons, some pages started off looking credible, but slowly as the unsourced and dodgy facts were removed at times one was left with an almost blank page.

There were also many problem with his surviving pages, as I attempted to expand them, more and more became apparent, family houses were not just placed in the wrong county ut often the wrong country . One branch of the family were credited with living in well known castle, research showed they did not and so it went on. There are too many diffs to mention, but this one is important as it is a good example of their black is white gang-attitude . As is evident from the preceding diff when I did find obvious errors, it was always the same the whole Establishment crowd turned up to argue black was white in the face of growing evidence. Anyone who dared to point out an error was an enemy - and the enemy were always republicans, anti-monarchists, terrorists you name it out came the insults. Their behaviour brings out the worst in everyone.

What was most unpleasant was the accusations which were thrown by Kittybrewster's supporters at some of those who voted oppose. Some Irish editors turned up to vote oppose, admittedly probably happy to give a kick to am establishment figure. However these Irish opposers were there legitimately, they only opposed with sound argument but they were attacked with insults and accusations or belonging to terrorist organizations. The arbcom or a senior admin. should have stepped in there and then. As it was Kittybrewster was repeatedly blocked for various misconduct throughout this affair. His insults though could often be on the crude level of that to which they relegate VK . Perhaps most interestingly of all Kittybrewster admits to using multiple sock-puppets

12 Sept 2007 Copyvio message instantly removed

Major Bonkers

Of this group, perhaps the easiest to understand is Major Bonkers (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) he was once blocked for being crude in the ongoing disputes, but basically he is harmless, and just turns up to support the others. His own views seem to be limited in the controversy to writing quite factually can be a little partisan as demonstrated here but murder versus assassination or killed in battle will always prevail depending on what side one is on. It has been a vexatious subject between the two groups . Every now and again he makes though an edit such as this "why not post a message at the top (Kittybrewster's page) that only those who attended Aytong or Arrer are permitted to post here?" "Aytong or Arrer" being how he imagines the Irish, or the lower classes, pronounce Eton and Harrow the British public schools that this crowd claim to have attended. Interestingly this sort of behaviour and reference is far from stereotype of it's former pupils, in fact far from it. Here he is again "outraged" that the late Gaimhreadhan has been blocked for edit warring with Vintagekits Interestingly the blocking admin is VK's mentor, and of course Gaimhreadhan and W Frank are very close friends. I

Counter-revolutionary

Counter-revolutionary (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is totally in awe of the others. Here he comes across as a little buffoonish. Mackensen a member of the arbcom is asking why Kittybrewster's own biography should not be deleted, and receives an answer from Bonkers which probably surprised him

"Is anyone prepared to make a specific assertion of notability for Sir William as an individual, independent of his title?" Mackensen (talk) 16:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

"Prominent banker, charity worker and wikipedian!" --Counter-revolutionary 16:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Like his friends though he too attacks the Irish editors at every opportunity here belittling User: Domer48 for voting delete on a page later found to be non-notable. He was blocked for these edits.

He writes stubs on Anglo-Irish baronets. Most notably the Stronge Baronets one of whom with his son was murdered by the IRA in the 1970s. So there is controversy between the two groups here also.

However, on the whole Counter-Rev plays a supporting role - though his writing style is very similar to that of David Lauder - it is probably just the similarity of their subjects that makes me think this.

Then after a long run of name page moving deliberatly ignored he makes this high profile edit - interesting

David Lauder

David Lauder (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). He concerns me. Again he has his own little group of Baronet stubs, probably related to him Lauder Baronets all pretty harmless. However he has laid claim to educational qualifications which he may not possess . In my book this is a wiki-crime above all others as it discredits the encyclopedia. He is accused here of using false qualifications to score a point (8 June 2007 -"claimed to have received an MBA from Oxford University over thirty years ago, which, as has been pointed out, is impossible.")This debate rambled on and became more embarrassing to read as he squirmed and twisted as it became more and more obvious that it was impossible for him to have the degree he claimed from the College he claimed to attend . He later emailed me claiming "age" as an excuse. It was all too embarrassing at the time to pursue. However his recent malice and undeserved hostility towards Vintagekits in all this has made me think again on all of this. His memory seems quite good when it suits him.

Lauder also attacks indiscriminately all who fail to agree with him as having Irish sympathies . Anyone who does not agree with Lauder is insulted tis was to a respected admin who had been helping him, he then pursues the matter 25 August 2007 attacking her further with slurring reference to Vintagekits. How much of this is VK expected to put up with? Lauder then becomes almost hysterical with anger and tells the unfortunates admim "no longer an administrator to be relied upon". The recipient of his ire is actually the admin who has been trying to sort the mess out. Kittybrewster says in his statement to the arbcom she has been doing a good job. Now he decides to attack all in sight. Full of self pity lamenting the situation. No effort is made to see anyone other's point of view

David Lauder's philosophy of attack all who do not appear to agree with him continues - my moving a comment of his pertaining to this arbcom case, which he had placed in the wrong place on the arbitration page was cause for him to attack . He appears determined not to let Vintagekits off his hook . Admins trying to explain the procedure to him are too deleted unarchived.

• I bet he did.
• His politics

W. Frank

W. Frank (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Was a close friend of the late Gaimhreadhan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) who too posted on irish related subjects which he felt were biased. Frank is not part of the quartette above bit on occasions he interacts with them. He is far brighter than them and more of a loner (especially as Gaimhreadhan is now late). Frank tells us on his user page that he is a German with the forename Frank and that he lives in Glasgow. Elsewhere he has given us his full name too. He also has said that he feels the many of Misplaced Pages Irish pages are one sided and biased against the British.

He has become very quiet since the VK affair truly hit the fan. Franks has been the subject of:

• Multiple allegations of shared account with Gaimhreadhan and or being the sock of above. Both have received blocks regarding this subject.
• 1 May he is blocked indefinitely for being the sock of Gaimhreadhan. A personal phone call to User: Fred Bauder and he is unblocked.
• Has edited as 89.240.90.169
• in which he gives his real name.
• And if ever there were an "Oh hit!" moment it is here 4 December 2006
• 11 April 2007 Here he gives his town of residence, and an explanation of how disgusted he is by the way he feels that IRA related pages have been POV's by the Irish. Also is an explanation of how he and his friend were both editing from the same computer, but his friend did not realise he was logged in a W. Frank when he signed his name.
• 01 August 2007. Frank again warned for personal attack.
• 10 August 2007 check user report on W. Frank comparing him with edits by 84.13.156.208
• 25 August. Conversation between Frank and VK's blocking admin Alison. Frank is asked to explain his behaviour.
• 11 September 2007 Now what does one make of that, he causes all this fuss, and then decides to dissapear when the going gets tough. He also seems from other comments on that page very territorial of the late Gaimhreadhan's page - why I wonder.
• 11 April 2007. Now what sort of person pesters someone on their deathbed for their passport just so they can continue to edit Misplaced Pages. Would someone that ill be "willing to have me send copies of his Passport, Driving Licence, etc" could they be bothered, why would frank have copies of someone elses's driving licence and passport, he would have to obtain them from the next-of-kin. they would think that all very strange - most wives in that position would tell him to bugger off. Something is not right here - none of this rings true

Below are some IPs known to be W Frank and some suspected of being him, all connected with this case.

• 86.155.106.255 anon. made this edit urging VK to be reported to the police for the current crime.
• 89.240.90.169 known to be W Frank.
• 84.13.156.208 anon but has been suspected as W Frank. Scolaire in his statement to the arbcom feels this IP has a lot to answer for
• 84.13.10.123 24 August 2007 Nervous edits to this talk page . User has made frequent edits here . One may feel conclusions can be drawn. He edits again here and then does much further manic posting, presumably with a view to this page being deleted. Now why should an anon be so worried? Later W Frank confirmed the IP is him &
• 80.169.129.163 Just 2 edits concerning VK. Nothing much probably just a passer by who edits on Irish subjects.

• It now seems these IPs are in fact W Frank.

• Link to very interesting thread with a disgruntles Alabamaboy - why the hurry to have the thread deleted?

Things I need to ponder

Astrotrain (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

• blocked for edit warring with the Irish group. VK has reported him!
• 10 April 2007 blocked for branding 4 editors and 4 admins as terrorist supporters. Tyrenius is again the blocking admin.
• 19 August 2007. Blocked for edit warring on an Irish related page List of Northern Irish flags. Lauder feels this is unjust

Gaimhreadhan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

• Recently deceased Wikipedian
• Blocked for 7 hours at 20:04, 5 August 2007 for breaking 3r
• Final edit 8 August 2007 to a page about the shooting of an IRA member. He seems to have set himself up as POV warrior on that page to protect British interests.
• blocked for dispute over edit waring with Vintagekits.
• He was also blocked for classifying the Provisional IRA/SF as "Green Nazis". A very inflammatory comment indeed (Green was a reference to Ireland's national colour rather than environmental activities).

NORAID

Socks

• 10 August 2007. A sock (84.13.156.208) attacking Vintagekits. User:Rockpocket seems to know who it is. The same sock is here accused by a respected admin of goading Vintagekits, and here is is blocked again for further goading Vintagekits on 10th August. Here he accuses User: Tyrenius of being an Insurgent sympathiser So who is this mysterious sock?

These accusations towards Tyrenius seem to be fairly frequent and varied why?

Conclusions

Solutions

It is against this background of anger, insults and venom that Vintagekits snapped and momentarily gave full rein to his feelings. He should not have done it. He knows that and admits it. Is he though any worse than the more educated and erudite David lauder, Kittybrewster or any of their friends? The attitude and behaviour of this group is best summed up by themselves in their mocking and gloating comments here. They feel they have a right to insult the banned Vintagkits If he hits back then again he is in the wrong. I think in real life even I may feel pretty angry and frustrated. Vintagekits had to endure this for months.

3 August. VK has one of his own.request "I am aloud back but not to edit on republican articles for a further six months". I would be much tougher on him than that. However, he does deserve to be protected from his antagonists so a few other blocks or at least bans from page may be called for.

Things I may mention should I comment in the Arbcom case

• So under what name has Kittybrewster been editing.

Notes

1. This is a British term, derived from sharing time together in an "Officer's Mess" - although here it could mean the two were at school together, or even shared rooms at an education establishment
2. "Orange" probably refers to .