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Barnstars and related
- Please do not feed the trolls
- The Original Barnstar For being bold and because I can't believe you haven't got one yet! Sophia 16:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- The E=mc² Barnstar You might not know me, but I know you. I've seen you editing articles about evolution, and I just wanted to say thank you so much for contributing so much to Evolution articles and reverting vandalism and original research, among other things. I love you! Keep up the good fight! Ķĩřβȳ♥♥♥ŤįɱéØ 17:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- The Undeniable Mechanism Award For arguing the undeniable mechanism, upholding intellectual rigour, and expanding evolution topics, it is my pleasure to pin this badge upon your most evolved chest. Samsara (talk • contribs) 08:51, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- The Original Barnstar For your dedicated work on scientific articles, keeping the pseudo out of science, I hereby award you, Orangemarlin, this Barnstar. Your work on Good and Featured articles like Evolution and Minoan eruption has greatly improved Misplaced Pages. Thank you. Firsfron of Ronchester 07:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- To Orangemarlin for exceptional work on herpes zoster. JFW | T@lk 10:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- You are retentive and obsesive. Now have a cookie. Tim Vickers 23:12, 6 July 2007 (UTC)]]
- For unbelievable efforts to bring Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event to FA status. Filll 22:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC) For unbelievable efforts to bring Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event to FA status. Filll 22:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- Have a squeaky rubber Tiktaalik for services to mass extinctions! Thanks for your persistence and hard work, .. dave souza, talk 20:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Scary articles
Below are articles articles, mostly medical but some in the sciences, that promote ideas or POV's that might endanger human life. Feel free to add your own, but I'm watching and cleaning up these articles. Please sign if you add something.
- List of medicinal herbs-lacks any references, and implies these drugs can help.Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Herbalism-same as above Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Homeopathy-ridiculous Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Attachment therapy-don't let your children go there Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Medicinal plants of the American West-more unsourced POV edits Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Alternative medicine-more of the same Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Naturopathic medicine-Actually not completely off the wall, but some parts are bad. Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Er, Duesberg hypothesis and poppers could both use more work, and talk about endangering lives... especially the former. MastCell 18:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'd also add ephedra to the list... I did a lot of work cleaning it up and it's not so bad anymore (it actually references the serious harms and deaths associated with ephedra supplements in a way that goes beyond referring to the FDA as jackbooted thugs, now). But much of the same material is duplicated in ECA stack, which I haven't been as successful with, and which I fear gives an erroneous impression as to the safety record of ephedra-containing dietary supplements. MastCell 19:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Arguably, Reflexology, though that's probably not actually dangerous, just ridiculously oversold. Adam Cuerden 00:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Mac Stuff
Hi there! Sorry it took so long to get back to you, but I've been on a knitting bender, making socks for Christmas gifts, then the archiving bot took your post to my talk page archive before I saw it.
Anyway, if there's a program to help lose weight, I haven't found it, but I'm optimistic. When I had my first child, I lost 24 pounds in six days, so I've done it once and can do it again. That was expensive, though. And I had to take a baby boy home with me too. ;-) You could always turn to the myriad 'supplements,' like the ones that use chitin to bind cholesterol or some other such nonsense. (If that really worked, why not just eat lobster shells with a nice sauce and a lot of liquor and be done with it?)
Can't help you with the women, though. OTOH, it _is_ July, and you could always go over to a hospital near you and check out the brand new crop of wide-eyed interns. You know it's July when we have to dust off the "Ventilator Settings and IV Orders In The Real World" class and give it to them every damn morning until it sinks into their skulls. No software to teach them the difference between medical school and reality, and I'm _not_ optimistic about that. I guess I can't have everything.
Seriously, though, the apps/scripts I use most often, besides Butler, for Wiki-stuff (apologies if I've told you about these before):
- My monobook.js file has Lupin's popups, Misza13's Status Switcher, and Twinkle.
- TextExpander - a preference pane (accessed through System Preferences) allows me to type shortcuts - like "kk" for the four tildes, "citenews" to put in the {{cite news}} template, "oldafd" for {{Oldafdfull}}, and so on. It keeps track of how much time it saves you, and I'm at 2.86 hours of typing time saved. TextExpander was developed originally by the same guy who wrote Butler, Peter Maurer. He sold it to SmileOnMyMac last year sometime.
- PTHPasteboard PRO - Butler allows custom pasteboards, which is good, but I've run into problems with instability if I ask it to save more than 50 pasteboards. PTHPasteboard is another preference pane that holds as many as I want and lets me do more things with them. I can name them, use hot keys for pasting each particular thing, and I can even publish and share pasteboards with other users (I haven't done that yet). There's a free version that I used for a long time, but I'm glad I paid the $20 for the pro version.
- Sidenote - Sidenote is a tiny little memo app that hides on the side of your window and slides out when you need to jot something down. It's freeware, and you can create as many little notes as you like, format them with color, font, text size, and titles, name them, email them, export them, and more. It's very handy for numbers, phrases, instructions, quick reminders, grocery lists, and so on. For admin duties, I use it to hold blocks of text while editing, and for AFDs that I've relisted - each relisted AFD has to be manually removed from the old log and inserted into the new date, and I do that in batches of four or five, so I list their titles there so I can make sure I handle each one correctly.
- browseback - another SmileOnMyMac app that runs in the background and saves my browser history. I used to use HistoryHound, but it didn't save the page as it's viewed, and browseback does. There have been some complaints about the app's CPU usage, but Camino uses more than browseback does, and I'm on a 15" PowerBook G4 with 1.5GB of RAM. If you use Application Enhancer, browseback has to be on its Master Exclude List because it crashes otherwise, but don't worry about it if you don't use anything that requires Application Enhancer to run.
- Saft - I use Camino as my default browser, but when I do use Safari I use Saft. Saft is an input manager that lets me customize features of Safari. There's at least 50 different things it does, so go to VersionTracker if you want to check it out. The developer is a Chinese guy living in Sweden and his English isn't perfect, but he's really quick with support if you need it.
Okay, I'll shut up now. Email me if you have any questions, so I don't clutter up your talk page. It's time to eat some ice cream. See ya - KrakatoaKatie 22:52, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
You always catch me when I'm gone for a few days. Suspicious minds would wonder if I'm being watched... ;-)
I was coming to recommend Twinkle, but I see you've already got it. You can take a look at my monobook.js page if you want to see how it can be configured, 'cause I don't have the whole script imported like you do. AzaToth is pretty responsive to questions and bugs, and the Twinkle talk page is lively if help is needed.
I must go knit now. Christmas is coming... so much yarn to buy, so much to knit and so little time. I'll be in and out of here, mainly 'out' with brief bursts of 'in', until I'm sure everything will be completed. See ya – :-) KrakatoaKatie 15:30, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I added the piece that gives non-admins the rollback buttons - twinklefluff.js. You can add other modules as noted on the Twinkle page. I try new or revised scripts from time to time to see if I like them, then I remove the ones that don't float my boat. I've decided to test twinkleprod.js, twinklediff.js, and twinklesalt.js for a few days. You might like twinklearv.js, but it's useless to me because I don't have to report vandals anymore.
- As for the nice neat edit summaries... it depends on what you're doing at the time. For some functions, the edit summary is given automagically when you use the buttons, and you can have it say whatever you want. When you use the buttons, a dropdown box will appear so you can state your reason for restoration or rollback. You can add the suffix 'using Twinkle' or 'eating Oreos' or whatever by changing the text in the 'summaryAd' line of TwinkleConfig, and you can also customize it for tagging pages for deletion or protection. (I don't use Twinkle for deletion or protection, so 'deletionSummaryAd' and 'protectionSummaryAd' are blank in my config.) For other tasks, like reverting vandalism, the edit summary is in the JavaScript and can't be changed _unless_ you decide to import the script/code itself into one of your subpages, find the text line somewhere in there, change it to something else you like, then use that page as a substitute for AzaToth's page. In other words, it's not easily modified by folks who don't speak JavaScript.
- As an example, I futzed a bit with my own user talk page. Take a look at the page history and note the edit summaries.
- First, I reverted your messages to my talk page using the 'rollback AGF' button. The 'reverting good faith edits' is Twinkle automagic. The 'testing for Orangemarlin...' line is what I added in the dropdown box, which will appear when you make this kind of edit, and 'using Twinkle' is the text in 'summaryAd' in my config (and yours).
- Next, I reverted back using the 'rollback vandal' button. The edit summary was provided automagically by Twinkle, and I didn't add anything to it.
- Questions, grasshopper? I'll check back later tonight or tomorrow. Play with your own talk page the same way I did to get a feel for the buttons. It's all trial and error. – KrakatoaKatie 02:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Questions--Yes, I'm about to jump off the roof! What buttons???????? Do you hear that scream of pain from California. That's me!!!!! ArrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhOrangeMarlin 04:26, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
NOR
Hi. I've just been popping around a bit and after a few of your comments on the NOR discussion page, I though that I should probably say that some of your comments there appear to reflect the exact opposite of what you were trying to say on Badgerpatrol's page. I would ask that (even though it's extremely long and convoluted) you at least give us over there the same courtesy that you expected from Badgerpatrol. Many of us (far more than 3 or 4) have been working long and hard in an attempt to make the policy better, not weaken it. To paraphrase what you said to Badgerpatrol, if you can willingly participate in helping to make our proposals better or otherwise more coherent, fine. But please don't pop in occasionally to impugn the integrity of the perticipants just because you either don't understand what we are trying to do (since it is so convoluted), or because you sense that what we are attempting is a weakneing of a crucial policy. Many of us fail to see how a definition of primary, secondary, etc. has anything to do with what OR is, or how moving (not deleting) the problemmatic definitions someplace else would weaken the policy. Any constructive participation in the discussions would be greatly appreciated, but please, don't just come in and criticize the hard work many people have done with false statements just because the issue is so convoluted it takes a while to digess. Thanks. wbfergus 15:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- Please supply diffs. I have no clue about what you are speaking. I do not agree with any changes to this policy, and I fundamentally believe through observation and being a fairly astute individual, it is clear that any change in this policy will be used by POV-warriors to fundamentally change the POV of numerous articles by referring to sources that are neither reliable or verifiable. What this has to do with Badgerpatrol is beyond my concern or knowledge. OrangeMarlin 16:44, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comments from NOR:
- My only problem with changing this policy is Evolution. The second the policy is gone (and it doesn't matter if it's the slightest change), POV warriors will be swarming in, and "upgrading" the article to Evolution is bad theory without any scientific support with references to some Creationist website. Holding this hard-fought ground is fine. So, there are no good reasons to change this policy. None. Yes, I've kept up with the discussion, as convoluted, confusing, and confounding as it is.
- followed later by:
- Without a strong policy and vigilant editors, the article gets messed up. We have to spend hours just finding the crap articles that people try to sneak into the project. So yeah, I am totally worried that POV-warriors will use any change in policy to lead a charge towards complete and utter entropy of the article.
- So, we can agree on these statements. Many people (including those proposing some sort of change), are in agreement on this point (POV-pushers), though your wording seems to reflect otherwise. However, I would beg to differ about "no good reasons to change this policy". I would think that sevral good reasons have been brought up, but none of them weaken the existing policy, which is structly NOR. The changes that are being proposed have to do with the "Sources" section, which has been a point of disagreement by policy editors since at least January 2005. NOR can still be strictly enforced and defined without the "Sources" section (more specifically the PSTS section) included in the policy. That particular section has absolutely nothing to do with NOR, though some people seem to think they are instrinsically entwined.
- Another:
- Consensus? It's more like 2-3 editors want some change for some unknown and undecipherable reason, and want us to agree? Uh, but pardon me if I don't agree.
- This statement is just blatantly and obviously false. It would be far closer if you perhaps had missed the trailing zero from both numbers, but I feel that was not the case. A simple perusal of the current talk page and the preceeding two archives shows that the numbers of active participants is closer to the 40-50 range, with it being mostly people for some sort of change and additional clarification. The types of source don't clarify any issue, as those definitions can't even be agreed upon by academia, due to the context (discipline) to which they are being applied.
- Then, taking an objective look at your comments here (from NOR), please consider how ironic they sound when compared to your commenst on Badgerpatrol's page:
- "First, I'm insulted by your comments. You wrote on Firs page about confirming the references. Like I'm an idiot and incapable of reading references? I read the references, and I hate it when Alternative medicine fuckheads misquote references in medical articles. I don't misquote references, simple as that. If you want to rewrite your insulting comment about my writing and apologize, I'm all for that. Am I perfect, no, but I'm not exactly an idiot either. Second, you obviously missed the point about K-T boundary vs. the extinction. This article discusses the extinction itself, and only gives brief mention to what causes the extinction, because I don't think it's been figured out, and more than that, it's complicated, deserving its own article. As for not contributing, either help or don't help, but throwing out a bunch of comments without helping is not helping at all. I'd prefer your help, but I don't like your attitude. Yes, you're smarter than me about paleontology, but that's not why we're here. I spent hours upon hours on this article, begging for help from anyone who would listen. You come along, fling a bunch of crap at the editors, and it takes Filll's vitriolic commentary to get you to actually be someone who helps as opposes to someone who complains. Help, don't help, it's up to you. But your attitude sucks, especially for those of us who have contributed to making this a better article. I want it to be FA, and if you can get it there, I'd kiss you. If you're going to be like a few others who drive-by the FAC, and complain without helping then no thanks. Oh yeah, I'm a little pissed, because I've put in a lot of time trying to improve this article (go back in the history and look at it the minute before Firs and I attacked it)--how about a little thanks to us for getting it close, and helping getting it over the top. That's why I'm pissed, not because it was criticized".
- The sentiments you expressed so vehemently to Badgerpatrol are how many of us feel on the NOR discussion, with the roles reversed, though as far as I know, nobody has gone to the extreme that you did in trying to get some help with working out editorial problems, which is how I see our discussions progressing on NOR. I haven't seen anybody propose to delete the policy, or allow in any way, shape or form, OR into any article, past, present or future. We also fail somehow to see how moving the PSTS section someplace else (another policy, a new policy, a guideline) would in any way dilute the effictiveness of the current NOR policy. Can you please give some examples as to how that could happen? We do not want dilute the policy, so any concrete examples would help keep us focused on ensuring those specific problems will still be avoided. Thanks. wbfergus 17:32, 28 September 2007 (UTC)