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The Protocols of Zion (imprints)

The Protocols of Zion (imprints) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

This series of repetitive and duplicate articles violates Misplaced Pages:Content forking; WP:NOT#REPOSITORY; and cumulatively borders on WP:NOR. There has always been one very good featured article about the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and the articles here could easily be summarized and even WP:LISTified into it, but for some bizarre reason the creator of these "articles" User: Ludvikus seems to think that Misplaced Pages needs an article about every version of this abominable book that was ever thought of or written in any language. Most of the articles here are just bloated paragraphs with publication information. These "articles" should be combined and merged into the main article The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (minus the bulk of the "publication information" drivel) or transferred to Wikisource (the multiple images of the texts should be transferred to Misplaced Pages:Wikimedia Commons). Then all the article names here should be redirected to the main The Protocols of the Elders of Zion article. The following related pages are included in this nomination for deletion for the above reasons:

Protocols of the wise men of Zion (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Velikoe v malom i antikhrist (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Vragi roda cheloviecheskago (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The Cause of World Unrest (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The Jewish Peril (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
World Conquest Through World Government (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The Protocols and World Revolution (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Praemonitus Praemunitus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The International Jew (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
"The Protocols" (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Thank you, IZAK 08:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


  • Strong Keep As the author of many of these alleged "bizarre" articles, why do you think it is not proper for me to add my point of view here - for the convenience of the reader? I do not believe you are respecting the spirit and purpose of Misplaced Pages rules by deleting, reverting, and otherwise censoring my position regarding these articles. It is unfair to Misplaced Pages editors not to have before them the alternative opinion - an opinion which immediately tells them why there is nothing bizarre about the inclusion of the items listed by you above as bizarre. I want Misplaced Pages editors to have immediately the other point of view - that's all I want to do - right here, in this space. Yours truly, --Ludvikus 16:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Ludvikus: Is there anything that you have not managed to say yet? Have you never participated in a procedure like this? Once the nominator has created the page to nominate an article for deletion/merging or whatver, no-one can come along and change it, as you tried to do a few times already and that is a violation of Misplaced Pages:Vandalism. Anyone can present their points as part of voting for or against the deletion/merge or whatever is being suggested. One can even come up with a new solutionas some other users are doing here, IN THE MIDST OF THEIR VOTE BUT NOT IN THE BODY OF THE NOMINATION. But how can you have the audacity to claim that you, or anyone, is "deleting, reverting, and otherwise censoring my position regarding these articles" when so far no one has done anything to "your" articles. They have merely been nominated for delition/merging or whatever, and you are free to add your reasons here why they should be kept or not. But remember the rule of Misplaced Pages:Ownership of articles, that everyone is subject to. You will have to make a better case than this griping. Just look at the reasoning of others below and feel free to add comments. But honestly, how mush more do you wish to state without falling into overkill and violating Misplaced Pages:No climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man which you may have already done? IZAK 16:37, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
    • You are not being truthful about my conduct. While you - a very experience WP Deletion Master - have your discriptive paragraph above, you have repeatedly, and recklessly, removed my position, expressed in a similar paragraph. And it appears that you do not even have the decency and respect for me to keep my word Keep in the above. You imply that I've already managed to say a lot. But the fact is that you've Vandalized my comments. It seems to me that you only wish Wikipedians to be informed that what I've done is bizarre. But you keep deleting my position that your views is one of ignorance. Now I will not restore what I have written. I expect you to do that. After that, I hope you have the capacity to apologize to me - but not before you come down from the top of the Reichstag. Yours truly, --Ludvikus 22:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Neither are your Red herrings any good here, except to distract editors from your position of ignorance. Why you accuse me of claim that any of these article are "mine" is an utterly dishonest attack on my integrity. It seems you will not stop at anything to make me appear bizarre. I'm not talking here about changing ANYTHING which you wrote. I'm asking you to let me write a descriptive paragraph of my own explaining to Wikipedians why what you claim is Bizarre is a view which clearly comes out of ignorance. Why do you refuse to let me do that? I want Wikipedians to have another view besides your own. What is wrong with that? --Ludvikus 22:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Keep but Delete the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. There is no such book called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. To write as if there is - is to fall into an antisemitic trap created by the Warrant for Genocide. Yours truly, --Ludvikus 13:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
    • There is no such thing as a single book here. So to claim that there is to manifest ignorance - something these articles attempt to show. This Warrant for Genocide has been, and continues to be used, by antisemites to attack Jews & Israelis. After WWI it was believed that by many descent Jews that "if we just keep quiet about this, it will go away." It did not go away and 6,000,000 Jews paid the price for that. I believe that we should and must flood the world with the Truth behind that Lie to the point where no one will want to have anything to do with it. That is the only way to fight this nonesense and garbage. Let me repeat: there is no such thing as the Protocols of Zion. There only are all the many different imprints of the same SHIT which too many people believe. That is why all these articles must be kept. If you want something deleted you should delete the following: Jewish Bolshevism and Żydokomuna (which also is supported by the Warrant for Genocide), as well as it's current version in Polish which is being put up by true believers in The Protocols. I'm sorry you find this distasteful. But you should think of my job on Misplaced Pages as a Doctor trying to cut out a cancer. And since you cannot stand to handle it, you should let me do your dirty work for you. Yours truly, --Ludvikus 13:29, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
    • The accusation that there is here "Misplaced Pages:Content forking; WP:NOT#REPOSITORY; and cumulatively borders on WP:NOR" is simply arbitrary, capricious, unreasonable, reckless, and unfair. --Ludvikus 14:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I notice that everyone (but me) is also for Merge. That's good. I'm only interested in identifying the exact imprints of this antisemitic SHIT. But the current {{Main}} article is yet inadequate to support these subordinate articles of the actual antisemitic imprints, articles, pamplets, books, etc. Yours truly, --Ludvikus 14:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
    • All these subordinate articles send the reader to the Main Article (which unfortunately is still inadequate). I wish (through these subordinate titles) to educate the readers that there is no such thing as a single book. There even is no single title. And there is no single author. Its really a collection of antisemitic events spread over time. And it's all about The Non-Existent Manuscript, as Cesare G. De Michelis has so ably put it. --Ludvikus 14:29, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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