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NYC meetup change of schedule

It's been agreed that we should have a 2-hour formal meeting period to start organizing meta:Wikimedia New York City, and this will be held at the Pacific Library (note this is different from the Brooklyn Central Library, which was discussed earlier) from 2:00 PM – 4:00 PM.

This shouldn't affect you directly since you can't come till later anyway, but if you have any topics or proposals (or any updates on CYCO), I'll be glad to present them at the formal meeting on your behalf. And of course there will still be more informal discussions later in the evening at the museum. Next time I promise we'll find a time and place for a formal meeting that is accessible to everyone.--Pharos 21:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

thanks for the note, regarding CYCO they don't seem to have a problem with giving it out for the free and open medium, the volunteers will have to come from the colleges and universities where Yiddish is teach, since they have the tools of scanning and converting it into text.--יודל 15:02, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

So, I presume you talked with them, then. Did you get a chance to look at their books? Thanks.--Pharos 18:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Cover mishpatei k.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Cover mishpatei k.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Misplaced Pages:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Misplaced Pages policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 04:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks i will now make better use of the templates.--יודל 15:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with the templates, per se. You are in violation of WP:NFCC#8 and WP:NFCC#Unacceptable images. Fair-use only applies to the image itself. You may only claim fair-use about the book cover if you are discussing the book. You may not claim fair-use of the book cover to discuss the organization that publishes the book. -- Avi 21:31, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

the organization is defined by printing this book--יודל 12:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

You seem to be misunderstanding Misplaced Pages's fair-use policy. Please review it, and note the portions that I specifically highlighted above. It is incorrect to say that the "organization is defined by its books." If the article specifically discusses a particular book, then you may have a fair-use case. Otherwise, there is no valid fair use here. Sorry. -- Avi 14:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

u don't have to be sorry just don't be a the fair use prosecutor and everything will be alright. this image is clearly within fair use, since the article is all about the image and we cannot understand fully the subject without it, this org is specifically and exclusively about this book.--יודל 15:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Part of my responsibilities as a sysop is to protect wikipedia against claims of copyright violation, which this seems to be. The article is perfectly understandable without the image; whether the article's subject is notable enough for wikipedia is an andere shayla L'Gamri. Part of what you, and every editor, agrees to when editing wikipedia is to abide by its rules, which you currently seem not to be doing. It is no longer a question of chisaron Yediya (lack of knowledge) as I have supplied you with both the references and the explanations. -- Avi 16:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

u r totally mixed up with the meaning of a sysop, u have no other obligation and job more than the ordinary user, other than safe guarding vandalism and other policys, yes u have used the tools as u wished against others but doing it does not make it right. u r wrong and please stop arguing that u know better becaouse that does not give any leverage to the argument, this article is written by me and i tell u that it is about the image, and in such a case an image is needed and allowed within the fair use ratinale.--יודל 16:42, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Once again you demonstrate a severe lack of knowledge and understanding of wikipedia policies and guidelines. You have misread, misunderstood, or ignored WP:FAIR, WP:HOAX, WP:NPA, WP:CANVASS, and now Misplaced Pages:Administrators. Continued refusal to conform to wikipedia policies and guidelines, be it through negligence and apathy, or intentional maliciousness, will be met with steps taken to protect the integrity of the wikipedia project. Thank you. -- Avi 18:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Amah.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Amah.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Misplaced Pages:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Misplaced Pages policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 09:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks i will now make better use of the templates.--יודל 15:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

See above. -- Avi 21:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

ok but the whole idea of the man is his accomplishment in the book.--יודל 12:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

See above. Misplaced Pages's rules are very strict in this area, I am afraid. -- Avi 14:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

i am sorry u r so afraid but this is indeed within the fair use rationale so there is no need to be scared.--יודל 15:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I am not certain you are correct. -- Avi 16:27, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Than let others who are certain deal with it. thanks--יודל 16:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I was being polite; this is a violation. -- Avi 18:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Should have kept

I hope you archived or kept the discussion with our friend somewhere. If he edits any Israel articles in a COI way, there is much evidence there that can demonstrate a determined and unrepentant COI that he admits to puting above the rules of wikipedia. Basejumper2 16:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I put in the archives and i will label it by dates so it would be easy to find. thanks--יודל 16:12, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Sure guys, as if the two of you are "saints", and I'll be keeping an eye out if I come across any funny edits from either of your ends, count on hearing from me. "Love" is a two-way street. But I cannot waste all this time here when there is so much editing to be done. Try it, instead of trying to lay "traps" and other such childish "tricks". IZAK 03:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

thanks--יודל 13:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello badge

Hi. I made a Wiki Hello badge in case anyone's interested in using it for the Meetup. It's on the Meetup page. Nightscream 16:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

CYCO Encyclopedia

So, I presume you talked with them, then. Did you get a chance to look at their books? Thanks. (apologies for posting this twice, it seems you missed my message in the section above)--Pharos 17:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

yes i looked at it, it is phenomenal work, but they have not decided yet to give it away, once we have a project of volunteers and the tools we should be able to have it.--יודל 17:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Personal attacks and incivility

Unsubstantiated personal attacks and incivil comments, such as you made here are forbidden in wikipedia. Please desist; otherwise, measures will be taken to protect the project. Thank you. -- Avi 21:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)