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Your new article

Hello! I'd like to thank you for contributing to wikipedia, and complement you on a good looking page! I did want to make a few constructive criticisms, however:

• Article doesn't cite sources. This is an easy problem to solve, although it might be hard to find english pages on this. Just check the guides on referencing, and it should be pretty easy to find some sources you can use.
• Pictures are always nice. While they're of course not a requirement, when used in moderation, they make pages look better. If you have a digital camera, you could easily take a picture of people playing, upload it under public license, and use that for the page's main picture.
• External Links: sort of fall into the same category as references. Again, probably can find this with a quick google search.

Well, that's about all I have to say. I checked your user page and saw that you marked yourself as having a basic level of english. If this article was written all by you, i'd say that's at least a notch or two too low! But, if you need want any help with it, leave a note on my talk page, and i'll be happy to do some proofreading when I get around to it (Probably 10-12hrs from the time on this message, as i'm starting to get dizzy from lack of sleep...) Nice job again on the page! -- feb 10:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, i've noticed that as a problem with non-native english speakers. Usually, the english they're taught is more 'stuffy' than day-to-day english, although that's not as notable on wikipedia. As far as the accent over the 'o', what I usually do in that case is make an article with standard english letters, and set it to redirect, as I've just done with Valencian fronto. The article should be with the correct spelling, but also easy to access. I'll clean up Valencian fronto for now, Could you make me a list of other articles you've made so I can clean those up too? Thanks! -- feb 17:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem! Thanks for making the pages nice and orderly too. From what I picked up in editing fronto, it sounds kinda like racquetball here in the states, though i've never played it. -- feb 18:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Maurice27

Maurice27 (talk · contribs) has been blocked for 48 hours for violating Misplaced Pages's No Personal Attacks (NPA) policy. Please do not decsend to his/her level in replying to his/her edits... Physchim62 (talk) 15:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The "referee" Mountolive

He is not connected 24 hours, you know? he is busy in real life and also quite busy discussing in the talk page of Valencia (autonomous community) while other editors fan el que volen in the article without looking for consensus as I'm trying to. He is also busy translating articles and doesn't have time to revert the blaverist edits which he is sure you or any other use would revert, because that is all some editors do, just revert blaverist edits. I have nothing against you, but just per favor no em toques els collons massa, ok? Mountolive | Talk 21:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

By the way, you did a great job with the pilota article. Mountolive | Talk 22:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

If you want to play the role of a referee, then you could at least try to look non-partial. In this case, if Maurice27 is pushing to the limit with his uncivil comments you could warn him instead of scolding me for replying him politely.

Good faith, I'll believe you revert non-scientifical vandalisms wherever it comes from, too.

per favor no em toques els collons massa. Is that a threat? I don't think I deserve it, just watch my comments (very civil), and my edits (very neutral).

Thx for yor congrats regarding my job at the Valencian pilota articles. Have you noticed I'm not into flag wars? I prefer to explain in my bad English the few things I know than wasting my time with stupid wars. Try to find any clue for my political ideas in any of my articles and I'll clean up them.

Pilota is a Valencian sport, no matter what language players talk or what their political ideas are. I could name Álvaro Navarro Serra as Àlvar, but he regards himself as Álvaro, so who am I to contradict him?

Be fair, my friend. --Casaforra (parlem-ne) 10:19, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Who said taht I want "to play the role of a referee"? I just want to reach consensus and I'm hoping that we all enter this mood, because actually it is possible if we all abandon the maximalist proposals. I don't want to start a debate about this, but, Casaforra, you know that "politely" doesn't exactly define your reply to Maurice...

I don't know why I am doing this because I am free to do what I want (as you are free not to translate articles yourself) but I just reverted one of those blaverists edits in the Kingdom of Valencia article. As for the Comunitat Valenciana article, I know there are many candidates to do this kind of reverts so you guys don't need me that much, right? ;)

Per favor no em toques els collons massa is a request. A request to, for example, not make edits summaries like "where is referee Mountolive" or similar. On the other side, I can't imagine how someone would feel threatened in wikipedia. At least that would not be my case.

What you're saying about pilota being sportive no matter political considerations is the perfect example of what we should do in the rest of the articles. Again, congrats for that interesting contribution. Mountolive | Talk 07:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Images

I was just looking at the above post and looks like things are quite better these days ;)

Anyway, the motive of this post is that I am trying to upload the covers of the Radio Futura records in this article but I just find the whole thing quite confusing. I opened an account in commons and I uploaded these covers only to be warned some minutes after that "copyright bla bla". I said that they are only record covers, which means that they are eminently public, but they said that no way, that most record covers are subjected to copyright...so am I supposed to swallow that B.S. when I see all the other bands articles displaying the covers of their records?...

I don't know if the problem is that I am supposed to make a picture myself of the record cover and then upload it, instead of copying the cover from any other website. But, in any case I don't have these records here with me.

Now, do you know if there is a way to "smuggle" these covers without meeting "the copyright police"? I understand that there are copyright policies but in this particular case looks to me like non sense to claim that these covers are protected by copyright.

I see here above that you have had similar experiences, so I am just wondering if you have any suggestion.

Thanks! Mountolive | Talk 00:10, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Pelota Players

Hola.

Sorry I haven't written you sooner, but I haven't visited the Misplaced Pages for some time. No problem with the change on the Julián Retegi page, and thanks a lot for being interested in it. I will try to write new Basque pelotaris pages, but it will be a slow work, since I don't have much time to visit the Misplaced Pages with my current situation, and it takes my a lot of time to write a simple phrase in English. However, I will try to do it, but I don't promise anything, sorry.

Adeu. Likirman 12:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

About to be reported

After editing the Balearic Islands and after reading quite some times the statute of autonomy of the balears (where it says that the catalan Illes Balears is to be used, something I'm obeying each and every time), you are reverting me. So, If after proving you the facts in the talk page for the correctness of my edits(see: ] and ]) you keep reverting, you will be reported for allegedly vandalizing WP:VAN. --Maurice27 21:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Request for mediation

I have filed a Request for Mediation concerning the article Valencia (autonomous community) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). The issues for which I have requested mediation are:

• Should the header to the infobox contain the Spanish name of the region as well as the Valencian/Catalan name?
• Should the lead section contain the comment: "Valencian (as Catalan is known in this territory)"?
• Should the the proportions of the Valencian flag used in this article be 1:2 or 2:3?

If you feel that there are other issues which require mediation, you may add them in the "Additional issues to be mediated" section.

If you agree to formal, non-binding mediation on these issues, please sign on the RfM page. I hope that you will agree, as mediation will be impossible without your help.

Best wishes, Physchim62 (talk) 15:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

He presentat una petició de mediació sobre l'article Valencia (autonomous community) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Les disputes per les quals he preguntat la mediació són:

• Comunidad Valenciana hauria d'aparèixer en el cap de l'infobox de la mateixa manera que Comunitat Valenciana?
• El commentari ""Valencian (as Catalan is known in this territory)" hauria d'aparèixer en la primera secció?
• Les proporcions de la Senyera valenciana serien 1:2 o 2:3?

Si volguessis discutir altres assumptes sobre l'article, les pots afegir en la secció "Additional issues to be mediated" de la pàgina de RfM.

Si acceptes aquesta mediació formal i no-constrenyedora, et prego de firmar a la pàgina de RfM. Espero que accepteràs perquè la mediació no serà possible sense la teva ajuda.

Disculpe'm pel meu català! Physchim62 (talk) 15:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

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Request for arbitration

A request for arbitration has been filed concerning the articles Catalonia and Valencian Community. You may, if you wish, make a statement as to whether this request should be accepted or not, although the final decision rests with the Arbitration Committee. Physchim62 (talk) 16:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The more discussion you add to the "Request for arbitration", worst for you, better for us...

As I always tell you, ¡¡¡READ!!! hehehehehe. you are adding more and more discussion in a page where it clearly states:"This is not a page for discussion. Arbitrators or Clerks may summarily remove or refactor discussion without comment. Please do not open cases; only an Arbitrator or Clerk may do so."

But you keep on doing it... Hehehehehehe... Thanks! --Maurice27 18:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, yes, I edited a reply (1 more time). But you should also warn Physchim62 (who edited 4 more times), Boynamedsue (3 more times), Mountolive (2 more times) and, finally, yourself, who edited 2 more times!

What disturbed you, Maurice27? Are you annoyed that I described your uncivility with some random examples?

"* Andorra, Antoni Gaudí or Northern Catalonia: Diarrhea talk pages plenty of trollings (by you) and insults (by you) with your lack of sense to reach any consensus that doesn't fit your POV.

* And compare them with the way two different POVed users (Mountolive and me) resolve differences: Valencian Nationalist Bloc or Valencian pilota.

I could name many more examples where your posts begin a war-edit because of your bad behaviour.

We all have proved that we can debate with different sources, arguments and reasonings, you haven't. You only disrupt by lying (I never edited in the Catalonia article as you claim ), crying aloud , laughing at others , trolling or insulting . It's you who, in last term, is causing all this."

Naah! Don't worry! I don't use to feed trolls! :D

Oops! I qualified you as a troll!!

Is that an insult? No way!

You've been previously blocked for trolling . (Just one more of your previous blocks )

So, Maurice27, refrain yourself from trying to teach me anything, thanks.

--Casaforra (parlem-ne) 19:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Tú mismo, machote... --Maurice27 19:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Controversial matters for the Request for arbitration

I have created a page where we can all expose our controversial matters in each of the articles filled in the request for arbitration. You are invited to contribute in it in order to explain our POVs to the comittee in a clear way. --Maurice27 13:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Catalonia

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An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Catalonia. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Catalonia/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Catalonia/Workshop.

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pilota

Hi Cas. I've been looking at the Valencian pilota article and have done a bit of a rewrite. There were a few phrases that were a bit off, so I fixed them, nothing factual has been changed.

One question though, when you say "modality", do you mean a variety always played in one place (in that case I would use the words "variety", "version" and "variant") or a set of rules that are agreed on and played in different places (in which case it could be signalled as such in the article, and referred to as "the BENICASIM code" or "ALICANTE rules": code=countable, rules=uncountable)?

cheers BNSBoynamedsue 15:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey!  :)

You know that's something I won't discuss.  ;-)

The native speaker of English it's you, not me, so if you tell me "modality" is miss-used I'll trust you, of course. Actually, I said "modality" as I do in Spanish "Modalidad", so I guess your first choice is better: variety, version, variant.

Eventually, you'll notice that throughout my articles I tend to use the words "modality" and "variant" alternatively. I did so in order not to repeat the same term. But gimme a break and in a few days I'll proofread all the articles regarding Valencian pilota and I'll replace "modality" for "variant".

What about "variety"? Such a sentence as "Gaelic football is a variety of football" would be right?

(I looked at that article and it begins with "G.f. is a form of football...")

Anyway, thx for proofreading the new section about pilota's history. If you happen to read any other of the articles I write, feel free to correct them, please. I have no problem at all with property, as I already thanked Mountolive and L to do that.

--Casaforra (parlem-ne) 18:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

PD: By the way, how would you translate into Spanish or Catalan your sentence "Have a look for facts" ? As I understand it it looks like I misleaded any fact, but your edition is only regarding grammar...  :-/

Hi again, we should avoid modality, it's not really used in this context, more in Science.

Variant, Version, Form, Variety all ok. I would initially say "form of the game", then use the rest as synonyms, without "of the game".

I would translate it as "echa un vistazo pa asegurar que yo no haya cambiado alguna informacion sin darme cuenta", but I've just looked again and I can't see where that might have happened

Boynamedsue 08:25, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, perfect then. I was just a bit sensitive.  ;-)

The problem with the "History" section is that it's very poor and not properly explained. There are so many unknown facts for political, social and linguistical reasons we all know, so it's difficult to write a proper article, also my English is not good enough to translate some Catalan slang. That's why I don't dare to translate the ca:Història de la pilota valenciana article. which is otherwise very improvable.

Anyway, I added a link to the main article, Valencian pilota, a PDF in English about history from the Valencian Pilota Federation webpage . Not so much encyclopedical, by the way.  :-P

--Casaforra (parlem-ne) 10:10, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

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Edit warring

You have recently been engaged in an edit war at Catalan Countries. While you haven't technically violated the three-revert rule, please note that editors who repeatedly revert may be blocked, even if they don't technically exceed three reverts in 24 hours. Pursue dispute resolution if necessary. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 04:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Blocked without reason nor warning by Physchim62

Casaforra (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Admin Physchim62 has blocked me for edit warring. I disagree this since I was reverting 4 times in 3 times a known disruptive editor, Maurice27, who actually DID 4RR in 1 day. Physchim62 hasn't blocked Maurice27, of course, since he agrees with his POV and behaviour, as was noticed in the recent Request for Arbitration about Catalonia which resulted in Maurice27's blocking while proving Physchim62's lenience about him. I stand that this Admin is not fair and has open cases against me. --Casaforra (parlem-ne) 09:39, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Sorry, but reverting someone over content, even a disruptive POVer, doesn't make edit warring right. The block stands. —  Avec nat...Wikipédia Prends Des Forces.  09:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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Maurice27's case was dealt with by another admin, LaraLove (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) who also participates in informal admin coaching. He was blocked for one week by this admin, then unblocked after discussion with other administrators (I didn't take part in that discussion as I was teaching at the time, but I have seen the record of it). Your edit warring is more serious than that of Maurice, as you were removing the maintenance template which Maurice was trying to place on the article, hence restricting the possibility of discussion. You have been told by ArbCom to play by the rules when editing Catalonia related articles, you have seen what happens if you don't. Physchim62 (talk) 11:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)