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GeorgeMoney ☺ (talk) ☺ (Help Desk) ☺ (Reference Desk) ☺ (Help Channel) 20:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

WCS page

Hey Steve, I just wanted to say thank you for the edits and sources you've been adding to West Coast Swing. I've been hoping that someone could come and clean up that page! I also wanted to mention a few things that will make your editing experiences easier:

  1. You can add the date and your username to our comments by simply typing ~~~~ after your comments. It will also add the time, which is helpful for other editors.
  2. Article "Talk" pages are typically formatted with the newest discussions on the bottom of the page so that readers can read sequentially down page. I just reformatted the Talk:West Coast Swing page to fit this format, and added some headers (feel free to change the header I placed over your comments if you feel it inappopriate). If you add more comments there and want to add your own header, just add ==My topic== and it will come out with the correct formatting if you hit preview or save.

Happy editing, and we'll see you around!--Will.i.am 10:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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Bob Wills

I've been working on Bob Wills, and all of a sudden a contents box showed up. Neat. But I don't see it in the edit box anywhere. It would look a lot better at the top of the article. Do I have to start a new section to get the box ABOVE the 1st section? Thanks Steve Pastor 19:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, hold on a second and I'll look into that article. --Flying Canuck 19:15, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, the way the content box works is that it adds itself after the first section is created. In the case of Bob Wills there is a rather long introduction paragraph. (The box assumes that first paragraph is an introduction.) So yes, you need to create anothe section above the one already there. I added a section called entering music, please change to something more appropiate I haven't read the article, but it shows how the content box changes. Hope this helps. --Flying Canuck 19:20, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

When the "merge with the Texas Playboys Discuss" box was removed the "This article may need to be wikified to meet Misplaced Pages's quality standards. Please help improve this article, especially its introduction, section layout, and relevant internal links. (help)" box started showing up. I've added sections, references, etc. Is that box really needed at this point? Thanks in advance. Steve Pastor 21:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi! If you feel that the article has been improved enough, go ahead and remove it :) Bjelleklang - talk 21:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Use of Google for selecting terms to use

Hi. You changed my "cape position" on the line dance page to "sweetheart position", based on a Google search with 846 hits for the former and 1290 hits for the latter. It doesn't matter to me which term is used, but I wanted to point out that while showing that one terms gets 100,000 hits and the other gets 6 is probably significant, 846 versus 1290 doesn't give any kind of indication that one is "right" and the other "wrong", or that one is in any way preferable to the other.

It could mean that one person uses the one of the terms on his website, and he has 500 pages that refer to it. It could mean nothing at all, because half the hits for one term or the other could be situations where one sentence ends with the first word and the next sentence begins with the second word, or where the term is being used in an entirely different context from the one under discussion. Even if a thorough study were to show that the number of people who use Term X exceeds the number of people who use Term Y, it doesn't mean that Term Y is an inferior term whose replacement everywhere it's been used in Misplaced Pages is justified.

It's a general Misplaced Pages principal, I believe, that changing someone else's perfectly good text merely because you like your terminology better shows a lack of courtesy and respect. It demonstrates a competitiveness that isn't what Misplaced Pages isn't about. Changing text because a Google search gives a larger number of hits to one term than to the other, where both of them are obviously in common use, is similarly unwarranted. Not the end of the world—this is hardly a major offense—but I just wanted to bring it to your attention. --Largo Plazo 00:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, got your response. It's a case of my going by your comment without looking at the actual change. Sorry about that. Two sorries in three days, I need to be more careful.
Hakuna matata (There is no problem. They actually say that in Tanzania.) Steve Pastor 23:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Ride 'Em Cowboy

Hi, and thanks for your contributions to the Abbott and Costello film, Ride 'Em Cowboy. However, the first line you added, "Elle Fitzgerald plays Ruby, who fills several roles as one of the employees of the ranch, and comes to the aid of the ." is an incomplete sentence. I am sure you meant to finish it, but were somehow sidetracked. Please return to the page and finish your thoughts on who Elle "comes to the aid of the..." Thanks again for helping to make the article better. Donaldd23 20:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC) Wow, are you on top of it! Thanks, I don't think I would have seen that one for a while. And here I was feeling bright eyed and bushy tailed today. Looks like I forgot to save the last page I worked on. Thanks again.Steve Pastor 20:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. That page is on my watchlist and I happened to be online at the time. Don't forget to go back and finish the sentence. Thanks! Donaldd23 00:46, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

boogie woogie contribution

Do you have a date or any other info on Johanssons boogie-woogie-vals? It would be good if you could add a reference to that sentence so we could better intergrate it into the article. Thanks Steve Pastor 21:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

It became a hit in 1944, but he wrote it earlier. Anyway I've added that is was in 1944 to the article. I found the chords and you can probably find an MP3 at some torrent if you want to listen to it. // Liftarn

Alan Freed: TV

Hi Steve: As per your request for "Alan Freed, TV," I just added what info. I have on the episode I taped and watched last week . . . "." Thanks and all the best, Bill Keane, aka Keane4.

Bill Haley

Thanks for the edits to the Bill Haley article. However you shouldn't remove so-called "redlinks". These are vital to Misplaced Pages as they indicate articles that need to be written. I have put the Down Homers link back accordingly, as well as Kenny Roberts (but good catch that it was linking to the wrong individual, so it now links to Kenny Roberts (musician). 23skidoo 18:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

So, how long do you think that non functioning links should be kept?Certainly not indefinatly?Steve Pastor 21:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in replying but I didn't realize you had posted this question. My understanding is redlinks have no expiry because you never know when someone will get around to making an article. I've "de-redlinked" articles that I personally had wikilinked 2 years or more previously. To more recent matters, thanks for uploading the link to Sonny Dae's version of Rock Around the Clock. Are we allowed to hotlink directly to MP3 files? I'm not sure what the policy is on that. We can link to "OGG" files directly but MP3s take up a bit more bandwidth. I'm not sure what the rule is on that, but it's good to have. 23skidoo 18:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
The RCS hosts samples of songs, not the songs themselves in mp3 format. This site is made possible by the Hugh F. MacMillan Law Library of Emory University, as it states in the site itself. They invoke Fair Use to make the samples available. If they can do it, surely we can link to it. It is a great resource. Here's the url for the main page of this site Steve Pastor 19:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Elvis Presley article

You did an excellent job at summarizing and fixing the time-line in the Sun Records portion of this article. I hope you will stay and share your further insights and improvements with us - so that the article may be presentable enough for being featured. Thanks. --Northmeister 16:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, yeah. I've done quite a bit of work on the early history of rockabilly, and you can't talk about rockabilly without talking about Elvis. Thanks for the encouragement. And thanks for taking on this reorganiztion of this article. Steve Pastor 16:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, only just seen your post about the Carl Perkins reference on the Elvis DVD (you left the post on my user page instead of 'Talk'!). Not got the DVD in question, but I may get to borrow it. Let you know... Rikstar 21:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your observations at the Elvis article. You've been a big help there. We're trying to get the article to an acceptable level for featured try. If you have any more observations let us know. I'd also like to invite you back to make any edits necessary to remove trivial matters and reduce the length if you feel there is any. Thanks. --Northmeister 03:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

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Western music

You've made some good comments in the western music discussion. I think that any textual (as opposed to Internet) reference on the matter would point out the influence of Czech music on Texas. One has to remember that the European settlement of Oklahoma is rather recent, coming mainly after 1880. So, the roots of the music point more to Texas. The European (as opposed to Mexican, and within this, Spanish) roots of Texas music are German, Czech (in the 19th century called "Bohemian") and British Isles. Dogru144 14:15, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Western music

You've made some good comments in the western music discussion. I think that any textual (as opposed to Internet) reference on the matter would point out the influence of Czech music on Texas. One has to remember that the European settlement of Oklahoma is rather recent, coming mainly after 1880. So, the roots of the music point more to Texas. The European (as opposed to Mexican, asn within this, Spanish) roots of Texas music are German, Czech (in the 19th century called "Bohemian") and British Isles. Dogru144 14:14, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

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Jitterbug

The quote that you re-added to the Jitterbug article is already in the first paragraph of the article. So I removed your text to avoid duplicating info.

I'm not sure if you wanted to specifically draw attention to the quote or to the fact that jitterbug was danced to western swing music. If you would like to add what kind of music people danced jitterbug to, then that's a much more complex issue. AFAIK, people have danced "jitterbug" to many types of music, including big band swing music, western swing music, rock & roll, rockabilly, country western, blues, hip hop, etc -- it all depends on which dance is meant by jitterbug. It's not clear to me that the page should list all of these different types of music since the page is about an ambiguous dance style. The music info might be better on the Swing (dance) page or the page for the actual dance style that the newspaper article is referring to since it does not apply to all the dances that have been called jitterbug.

–panda 21:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Jitterbug 2

Please don't sut and paste text from other websites. Copyright violation. Against the law. Not to say that this text is of unknown authorship, see wikipedia policy about reliable sources `'Míkka 23:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Jumpswing

Since you look like know things, please take a look at Jumpswing: is it a real thing, or just massive promo of a new dance craze? `'Míkka 23:45, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Jitterbug refs

The references that you deleted from Jitterbug were examples of how people use Jitterbug interchangeably with East Coast Swing and Jive. There's nothing unsuitable about them in the context that they were placed, so they should be replaced. panda 00:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

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Burlison on Arthur Gunther

I'm not a fan of Wolfgang Doebeling. He is a highly regarded music journalist in Germany ((and proably in Europe for a certain kind of music) and was proably a personal friend of the late John Peel. But in my opinion he is a snob and I don't want to get in any contact with him. But he also a very reliable source and he knows what he is talking about. He writes for the biggest Berlin City magazine "Tipp"(an equivalent to "Time out" in London for instance) among others and the radio station "rbb radio eins" where he aired his show is a part of a big public station like NBC in USA. I think if someone like Greil Marcus or Peter Guralnick are considered as a reliable source , Doebeling is that ,too. And I'm telling you this disliking the person. Maybe you can get in contact via google research with him - he is a very anglophil guy but also a selfhating german. I'm not sure if he did the interview by himself or got it from an archiv outside Germany. Be he will know - I#m sure. 87.162.49.98 17:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC) Franco, Deutschland

Non-free media (Image:West Coast Swing.jpg)

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Trachoma

You asked me about verification of the Trachoma theory. This was my source:

I added it in at the "References" section at the end of the article. Unfortuately you deleted it. Ogg 08:41, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Sharecropping United States section is gone

Please look at the edits between 10:33 and 19:48. that whole section is gone. get it back, if I can. Thanks Steve Pastor 20:12, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. There it is at the bottom of the page. DUH! Steve Pastor 20:48, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Ngorongoro-Zebra-Wildebeest.JPG

This image will be deleted shortly, so please replace if you plan to. -Regards Nv8200p talk 17:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Elvis

Hi Steve. Would appreciate your comments on my recent edits. Sorry ED Sullivan bit has not been to your liking, but joint efforts of editors are making this a problematic part. I have suggested making only a brief reference to the shows to avoid all this. I did it before, but 141 went and reverted it without others having the opportunity to comment. Thanks. Rikstar 06:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I see 141 is back - no surprise. Any idea who can help? It really is getting to be a pain achieving any progress. Will check out back ups. Rikstar 22:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: your message on my talk page. We should seek help for enforcement of previous decisions as done in the past. This user was blocked before for the same type of behavior. Thatcher31, JKelly among others might be best to contact in this regard. --Northmeister 00:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Steve. Not vacationing soon, and I've left message with Thatcher31 already, though they are on a break and may not get involved in anything heavy. Rikstar 16:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

{{helpme}} find a way to make it possible for for the Elvis Presley article to once again achieve GA status or higher. One editor has consistently ignored requests for discussion and consensus decision making. Said editor has a history regarding this subject. . It is currently impossible to make any progress on this article. Steve Pastor 21:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what your question is, but if you're having problems with another editor, you should try going through the Dispute Resolution Processes to resolve the issue. Hersfold 21:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Elvis 2

Perhaps it would be best to file a case with ArbCom considering this is an old situation revisited. I had no idea. Mediation failed before, it seems unlikely that it would work now. Also, considering he is, as before, inserting the homosexual/bisexual claims, it seems his editing style has not changed. Let me know what you all do. Lara❤Love 20:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

No Steve, I have not contacted ArbCom. Rikstar (talk) 19:45, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

You can list me, but contact Northmeister - he has ideas and thinks ArbCom might not be the way yo go. The latest lock/protection is interesting - makes some users suddenly look sweet and innocent. Rikstar (talk) 09:05, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry I haven't been around - needed time out. Have made an effort to work with LaraLove's proposal on talk page, starting today. Rikstar 19:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:Maasai

I'm not sure what you were referring to in your post on my page. If it is all those tags I put on Maasai Music and Culture, I put them there because I hate to see a junky unreferenced cut/paste looking article merged into a decent article like Maasai with out a great deal of care. I came across the Maasai article accidentally in trying to clean up History of Nairobi, so I have no vested interest other that the quality of the ultimate article. It looks like you are doing a great job on Maasai! Regards, Mattisse 21:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Keeping tabs on the Country article

I seem to have adopted this article, since country music and dance are interests of mine. Can you recommend an easy to use bot that would help me in keeping those unwanted links out of the article? Steve Pastor (talk) 19:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I wish. As far as I know, the only way to keep it clean is to monitor it manually. Let me know if you'd like help keeping an eye on it, or any other articles. Kaldari (talk) 21:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Any and all help is welcomed.

The external links that are already there on the Delmore Brothers article are my major sources thus far. I avoid plagiarism by rewording and Mix matching. I am both lazy and under experienced when it comes to sourcing. So yes feel free to give me pointers and or do the sourcing yourself. And also feel join me in the actual writing. The only thing I want to avoid is committing my time to any particular project. I am a slow typer and I tend to put things off and or go to other projects.

But with that said please feel free to join in. Thanks for your note and Be well. : Danny W Albion moonlight (talk) 00:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Good. As you may know I did not create that article . I actually prefer Sections format, So go for it. : Albion moonlight (talk) 00:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Elvis ArbCom submissal

Willing to contribute, Steve - just tell me where to post it. Rikstar (talk) 21:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Tags

On Misplaced Pages, tags always go at the top, unless the tags say "section."Spylab (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


Maasia & Culture Merger Proposal

Sorry about that, I left you to do all the merge work. I am now checking it, and changing redirects, and then I will change the culture article itself to a redirect to Massai#Culture. I would also agree with a deletion if you think that's better. Please prod me if I forget. -Wikianon (talk) 04:11, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Culture article is now a redirect, merge tags are removed and incoming redirects fixed. Please wait before deletion of the culture redirect until any remaining material is moved. I have added notes and Body Art section to Talk:Maasai for later inclusion. -Wikianon (talk) 06:55, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

ngorongoro

Who says anything about deleting...? Or you just didn't scroll the page down...? Seki rs (talk) 20:41, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Because I still haven't seen no articles starting with a picture! So I put it in the bottom... Seki rs (talk) 20:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Country "spam"

Just a note to let you know that I left that link there because the page represented by the link has a bunch of absolutely free mp3 files with very old music that is rarely heard. Yes, the larger site is commerical, but I think overall, it provides valuable content that can't be easily found elsewhere. Steve Pastor (talk) 22:41, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Those mp3 are just short samples, not full tracks. The site has very little useful information and seems designed primarily to sell CDs. Kaldari (talk) 00:56, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Elvis

Thanks for the note regarding the endless rubbish on the Elvis (Talk) page Hoserjoe (talk) 06:59, 28 December 2007 (UTC)