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Bender's Name
I've removed the statement: His rebellious personality and name are taken from the character John Bender from the film The Breakfast Club. There was no source. Can anyone back this up? The word "bender" is a slang term for a drinking spree. This sounds like a more likely origin. If someone can provide a source for the deleted item it can be replaced. CPitt76 20:00, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've always assumed his name came from what he is, a bender, his job was to bend things. Just like someone who sings is called a singer. TJ Spyke 21:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, yes, there's that. But it is also possible that the creators got the name from somewhere else (like either of the two mentioned theories) and worked it into the story so that they can explain the name "bender". Does anyone have any reference? CPitt76 00:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'd also guess it comes from a drinking spree, especially since his alias while in the mob is "Blotto" -- a term for being very drunk. I'd assume they gave him the job "bender" after choosing the name (Url was also a name that was considered for Bender), to give him a mundane origin for it. Buddy13 04:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- I really think they just created a robot character and then figured out a job for it, so Bender's name came, they didn't think they'd make another robot which is exactly the same as bender later (Flexo). the thought was: name the robot after it's job. The Nanto 10:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- IMDB Trivia says "Creator Matt Groening admits to naming Bender the robot after John Bender, a character in The Breakfast Club." Not sure if that's right or not as IMDB is not very reliable.--ziekerz 04:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Your second statement is correct, IMDB is not a reliable source as defined by Misplaced Pages (see WP:RS). Stardust8212 04:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- IMDB Trivia says "Creator Matt Groening admits to naming Bender the robot after John Bender, a character in The Breakfast Club." Not sure if that's right or not as IMDB is not very reliable.--ziekerz 04:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- I really think they just created a robot character and then figured out a job for it, so Bender's name came, they didn't think they'd make another robot which is exactly the same as bender later (Flexo). the thought was: name the robot after it's job. The Nanto 10:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'd also guess it comes from a drinking spree, especially since his alias while in the mob is "Blotto" -- a term for being very drunk. I'd assume they gave him the job "bender" after choosing the name (Url was also a name that was considered for Bender), to give him a mundane origin for it. Buddy13 04:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, yes, there's that. But it is also possible that the creators got the name from somewhere else (like either of the two mentioned theories) and worked it into the story so that they can explain the name "bender". Does anyone have any reference? CPitt76 00:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've always assumed his name came from what he is, a bender, his job was to bend things. Just like someone who sings is called a singer. TJ Spyke 21:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
"Humor" section
I've sandboxed an attempt at a section on the show's humour style, mostly emphasising on the borad range of styles that made it appealing to everyone and all the nerdy in-jokes that earned it a cult following. Have a look. Any suggestions, oppositions, etc? -Switch 19:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- It's a good concept, but the content contains far too much original research to be included in this article. Jtrost ( | C | #) 22:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Outside references to the humor style would be good. CovenantD 22:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed, it would be a good addition if proper references could be found. Stardust8212 23:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, um, does someone want to look for references about Futurama's comedy style? I haven't yet found anything, though there's a book out there on the series somewhere that I imagine would be a wonderful help. Somebody? ~Switch 11:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Looks pretty good now, but should we really include the Klein beer bottles? We're only supposed ot have two fair use images per page, those already being in the cast and setting areas. Is there a free use picture of a klein bottle? Stardust8212 17:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm. As far as I can tell (from a search for "two" and "2" respectively) WP:FU doesn't mention an image limit of two, but if that is the case the image can probably be replaced with one of the others from the Klein bottle article. Obviously the current one is desirable because it's from Futurama, but it can be done without. ~Switch 18:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not actually sure where the "rule" comes from but it was brought up in a previous peer review/FA nom/GA nom, I can't remember at the moment which one...it should be somewhere further up this page though, that's the only reason I bring it up. Actually we should probably just get another peer review to see what needs to happen to become FA class, it'd come up there if it was a problem. Stardust8212 18:34, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm. As far as I can tell (from a search for "two" and "2" respectively) WP:FU doesn't mention an image limit of two, but if that is the case the image can probably be replaced with one of the others from the Klein bottle article. Obviously the current one is desirable because it's from Futurama, but it can be done without. ~Switch 18:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- Looks pretty good now, but should we really include the Klein beer bottles? We're only supposed ot have two fair use images per page, those already being in the cast and setting areas. Is there a free use picture of a klein bottle? Stardust8212 17:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, um, does someone want to look for references about Futurama's comedy style? I haven't yet found anything, though there's a book out there on the series somewhere that I imagine would be a wonderful help. Somebody? ~Switch 11:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed, it would be a good addition if proper references could be found. Stardust8212 23:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Minor edit... the science of P and NP junctions is properly electronics, not computer science (see the article on CS linked in the "humor" section) -- so I added the "and electronics", recognizing that Cohen studied CS in school and that there are many CS-inspired jokes on the show (that one just isn't one of them). :-) Chenel324 01:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
It isn't about junctions at all, it's about dividing computational problems into two classes, P and NP. It's interesting that electronics has a similar notation, but the DVD commentary makes it clear that the writers meant the mathematical terms.CarlFink 14:01, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
The X-Files and Spanish Fry
If anybody has Season 4 of Futurama on DVD, could they watch Spanish Fry with commentary and let me know if anybody mentions The X-Files as influence, especially in the scene depicted in this image: Image:XfilesFry.jpg. Thanks in advance. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 04:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- I changed the image to a link; fair use images aren't supposed to appear anywhere outside of the main article space.
- As for your question, that's about as generic an image for alien abduction as it gets. That X-Files used it is no great surprise, and not necessarily a link between the two shows. EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:24, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tweak. Didn't know how to link an image. Yeah...I guess it's pretty generic. If somebody still checked it out, that would be nice. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 06:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm sitting here listening to it right now. No. They don't mention the X Files at all. The only reference they give is to Close Encounters of the Third Kind.Thehappysmith (talk) 20:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Revival
Isn't Futurama's comeback going to be similar to Family Guy's comeback in May 2005?
- It might be. Matt Groening has stated that it may be possible that a renewed series will follow the movies, if FOX agrees. This has not been confirmed, however. Currently all that stands are the four DVD movies. The Good Ol' Country Doctor 01:24, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Billy West Not Doing Movies?
My wife told me that Billy West has opted not to do voice work in the upcomming DVD movies, and that the studio is going to hired Tom Green to voice Fry. Other actors will be brought in to voice the characters that West had preformed on the show. Anyone else heard this? --Fernwood 01:12, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- I've read somewhere that he is confirmed to do the voice (should be linked in the article already) and he was one of the first people to leak the news about there being new movies coming out. Also he still lists on his website (billywest.com) that Futurama is his favorite show of all those that he has done. It is unlikely that he would opt out of the series knowing all of this, I think someone is pulling your leg. Stardust8212 01:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Although an old issue, Tom Green has never made any mention of doing so. If he were to do so, he most likely would have let people know via his website before the wire services pick it up, or even when the 'official studio source' confirms it. Try better grammar next time, and maybe we will believe you. Socby19 06:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Citing commentaries
I've just gone through the first season listening to every episode commentary with this article in mind and I soon plan on doing seasons 2 and 3 as well. I've cited a couple of previously uncited sentences but I didn't hear any mention of the 30thC Fox logo (maybe I missed it). I also noted a couple of other interesting things that might be worked in, but external sources are always better if available. There should be a push to purge this article of uncited material. ~ Switch (✉✍☺) 04:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
The Futurama Movies
All four titles have been revealed on IMDB, apparently. I don't have an account there, but I've been told that this link will take you to the information's source if you do. The titles supposedly are Bender's Big Score, The Beast with a Billion Backs, Bender's Game, and Into the Wild Green Yonder. Nothing should be added to the article yet, of course, until public confirmation. - The Good Ol' Country Doctor 17:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Removal of all main categories from Category:Futurama?!
I was trying to find the Futurama category from Category:Works of Matt Groening but it wasn't there, then I noticed it had been removed from Category:Animated sitcoms as well. I checked and I saw that User:ProveIt had removed ELEVEN categories from the Futurama category, as well as doing the same to other animated shows' categories. I think this will make it very difficult for anyone to navigate using the category system. Is there a reason they have all been removed? What's the point of having sub-categories if they are going to be removed? 172.209.120.176 01:26, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
- I think the general idea is that categories should not be categorized with articles. For instance the article Futurama belongs in ] with other articles but Category:Futurama is not an animated sitcom, it is a category which contains articles related to Futurama, which is an animated sitcom. I'm not sure that made as much sense as it does in my head but the general idea is that only articles belong in those categories, not other categories. There's probably a guideline laying all of this out somewhere but I'm not familiar with it so I can't point you to it. Stardust8212 02:07, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
We need a citation for the Futurama pavilion and how it relates to Futurama, the show. - ТģØ(Đ {ŧª∫Қ ↑¤ Мә} 17:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- Had a look around last night and couldn't find anything linking the two. Clearly the pavilion existed and was named Futurama but I find nothing which states beyond a doubt that the creators knew of this connection. I suspect they did, the show is chock full of such items, but I can't prove it. Perhaps someone could see if it is in any commentary tracks? There's another {{cn}} in the section describing the 30th century FOX logo, I know User:SwitChar was looking into this one but I guess he hasn't found anything. Stardust8212 18:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- I thought it would never happen but...I found it! Google Book search is my best friend. Page 104. Stardust8212 16:34, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Another {{fact}} tag in the language section: "They often provide additional jokes for fans dedicated enough to decode the messages ." I know this was mentioned in the DVD commentary, that they put these messages in there and fans decoded them much faster than they expected. Would that be a sufficient citation for this apparently controversial line? I could try to get an exact quote if needed. Stardust8212 12:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Fair use image issues, again
In the current FAC the issue of how many fair use images are appropriate has come up again. It was mentioned before in the #Failed "good article" nomination and I thought I fixed it. It came up again when the #"Humor" section was added. Currently the article contains fourfive screenshots (Title screen, crew, Fry's first view of the future, 30th Century Fox and Klein Bottles). Previously the article was trimmed down to only twothree images, the title screen, the characters and Fry's view out the window, and I think that is the way to go. We need to answer the question of how any further fair use images advance the critical commentary or if they are really only decorative. Thoughts? Stardust8212 00:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC) EDIT-left out one fair use image from the list, now added. 15:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, although I personally would prefer that the 30th Century Fox logo stayed. After all, it really is one of the really unique features of the series. - ТģØ(Đ {ŧª∫Қ ↑¤ Мә} 02:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Since there has been no further comment I went ahead and removed the Klein Bottles, perhaps taking action will inspire people to actually participate in discussion. I've left 30th century fox for now, depending on what else I hear at the FAC it might be able to stay but I can't be sure. Stardust8212 15:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- I've also removed the DOOP logo. I know User:The Good Ol' Country Doctor thought it should stay but with the discussion at the FAC, both that it was not necessary and that the entire section was not particularly notable, it was becoming harder for me to justify (even to myself) that it needed to stay. If anyone thinks they can give a well thought out reason for it to stay then please participate in this discussion and the one at FAC. Cheers. Stardust8212 23:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- To be fair, Image:Futurama characters.jpg could probably go as well. It's kind of crappy (funky stretching and fuzzy), all of the characters are already visually identified on their individual articles, and the proximity of the image to the infobox means that it wrecks the layout a bit (getting pushed around). I've gone ahead and removed the image; that leaves us with just four FU images. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- Just coincidentally, the article Batman (which is FA) has sixteen fair-use images. I think I'll bring this issue up over there as well. I think the way to go, though, is leave the most necessary fair-use images—title screen, main characters (which itself could be better) and maybe another shot to summarise the series—and, rather than simply removing the others, finding free substitutes. It is a pity the graffiti was deemed non-free (though reading the policy they're right as it is a derivative of a copyrighted work), but there must be free images we can use to resolve the FU problem. ~ Switch (✉✍☺☒) 07:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- That is interesting about Batman, I think it gets away with it because it was promoted in 2003, before the major FU crackdown. The issue with fair use vs free images I see is that if there was the possibility of finding free images then we wouldn't be able to use any fair use images (they would be deemed replacable) what kind of free images were you thinking of? The only thing I could think of is if we could find a free image of the panel at comic-con showing the cast/crew. That seems like a good addition to the article. I'm certainly open to any other ideas. Stardust8212 12:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Just coincidentally, the article Batman (which is FA) has sixteen fair-use images. I think I'll bring this issue up over there as well. I think the way to go, though, is leave the most necessary fair-use images—title screen, main characters (which itself could be better) and maybe another shot to summarise the series—and, rather than simply removing the others, finding free substitutes. It is a pity the graffiti was deemed non-free (though reading the policy they're right as it is a derivative of a copyrighted work), but there must be free images we can use to resolve the FU problem. ~ Switch (✉✍☺☒) 07:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- To be fair, Image:Futurama characters.jpg could probably go as well. It's kind of crappy (funky stretching and fuzzy), all of the characters are already visually identified on their individual articles, and the proximity of the image to the infobox means that it wrecks the layout a bit (getting pushed around). I've gone ahead and removed the image; that leaves us with just four FU images. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- I've also removed the DOOP logo. I know User:The Good Ol' Country Doctor thought it should stay but with the discussion at the FAC, both that it was not necessary and that the entire section was not particularly notable, it was becoming harder for me to justify (even to myself) that it needed to stay. If anyone thinks they can give a well thought out reason for it to stay then please participate in this discussion and the one at FAC. Cheers. Stardust8212 23:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Since there has been no further comment I went ahead and removed the Klein Bottles, perhaps taking action will inspire people to actually participate in discussion. I've left 30th century fox for now, depending on what else I hear at the FAC it might be able to stay but I can't be sure. Stardust8212 15:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
PJs
How could PJs possibly reference the cancellation of Futurama when PJs was canceled LONG before? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.72.21.221 (talk • contribs).
- This may have been unclear, but I have fixed it (or at the very lest, attempted to) with this edit. --WillMak050389 05:16, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Orginal run
Shouldn't the original run be changed to March 10 - August 10 2003 (on hiatus until 2008)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.187.117 (talk • contribs)
- "Space Pilot 3000" first aired March 28, not March 10th so I don't see any reason to change that. Also I am not personally fond of using the term hiatus in reference to Futurama because it implies that at the time it ended it was known that it would eventually come back. This is not the case for Futurama as far as I can tell. Because of the complexity of the show's status I think the infobox should be kept as concise as possible and what we have now "March 28, 1999 – August 10, 2003 (original run) Returning February 2008" seems to be accomplishing that. I would personally remove the text "(original run)" as I think that should be clear from the context but I won't push it. Stardust8212 19:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
"References to Futurama in popular culture"
Is this section really necessary? I would argue for a resounding "no"- it's just a bunch of unnecessary trivia. I'm not going to remove the section on my own, but I will if others agree with me. So the show is referenced in a comic and a song and another TV show... does this add anything at all to the article? -- Kicking222 21:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
- I see some value (or possibility for value) in this if it could be well sourced but we need to be a bit more strict with removing any unsourced "references". If it wasn't significant enough to be mentioned in a reliable source it doesn't need to be included here. Right now it's a magnet for unsourced trivialness. In it's current state it will be a huge detriment to any FA run. Maybe we could also preface it with something meaningful, I'll think on it. Stardust8212 23:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- I trimmed a few items with no sources, I would have added {{fact}} but I didn't want unsourced trivia to jeopardize the GA rating. Stardust8212 18:55, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Underpants vs. underwear
I have just added to the "Recurring jokes and catch phrases" section Ken Keeler's belief that underpants is a funnier word than underwear. This is almost always put into effect on the show, even when Keeler is not the writer. I will cite it from a commentary in the next few days, but I ask it not be removed until I have the chance. I think this content - about the show or its setting rather than the characters - is what the section in question needs more of (perhaps it should discuss the use of catch phrases rather than their existence). I also like the opportunity it gives to link to inherently funny word. ~ Switch (✉✍☺) 02:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
About the title
what exaltly is the meaning by the word"futurama"?Vanyar 04:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)vanyar
It isn't a real word. IN the USA, in the middle of the last century, there was a fad to add "-orama" to the ends of nouns. GM added it to "future" to name their exhibit at the World's Fair. Thus "Futurama".CarlFink 18:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
CGI
There are parts of episodes that feature 3D-like, CGI-like, smooth animation (such as most scenes of Planet Express Ship flying). Is there any information on this? If so, we should add it to 'Production' sub-heading. — mattrobs 09:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Here's a huge e-mail response to CGI in Futurama from Rough Draft Animation Studios. Someone might like to use it as a reference. — mattrobs 10:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well someone add something on CGI. — mattrobs 03:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- Be bold. Stardust8212 03:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- No, you be bold! Alright, I'll be bold. — mattrobs 04:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'm busy being bold elsewhere. Anyway, looks good so far. Stardust8212 12:48, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- No, you be bold! Alright, I'll be bold. — mattrobs 04:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- Be bold. Stardust8212 03:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well someone add something on CGI. — mattrobs 03:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Futurama still in production?
I'm not exactly sure, but do they still make Futurama episodes? Or are they just replaying the old episodes over and over again? Burn N Flare 01:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- The show was canceled in 2003 but it was revived recently in the form of four DVDs which will be released starting in November. On a related note, does anyone have a source for the supposed air date of January 1, 2008. I doubt the show is really going to start that day. Stardust8212 02:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Pic should be added
A pic should be added showing all of the main cast at least. Alot of the TV show pages have this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.65.10 (talk) 15:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Please see the related discussion at #Fair use image issues, again further up this page. The image of the main characters was removed due to fair use concerns. If you mean the cast as in the voice actors then I agree that is a good idea. Do you own such a picture which could be licensed for use here? Stardust8212 17:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well why not Image:Billywestcropped.jpg, Image:Katey Sagal2.jpg or even Image:Matt Groening.jpg? 172.203.71.103 20:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- Any of those images would be thoroughly gratuitous. Images should serve to help illustrate the section they are in, which none of those images do. Why show what the vocal actors look like, when it has nothing to do with what their character looks like (which puts it at a different level than other TV shows)? If we could get a picture of the entire cast, that'd be different, but otherwise people can just go to each actors' article if they want to know what they look like. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with EVula, I guess I should have been clearer in my previous comment. Stardust8212 02:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- Any of those images would be thoroughly gratuitous. Images should serve to help illustrate the section they are in, which none of those images do. Why show what the vocal actors look like, when it has nothing to do with what their character looks like (which puts it at a different level than other TV shows)? If we could get a picture of the entire cast, that'd be different, but otherwise people can just go to each actors' article if they want to know what they look like. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well why not Image:Billywestcropped.jpg, Image:Katey Sagal2.jpg or even Image:Matt Groening.jpg? 172.203.71.103 20:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Drama
I've introduced a "Drama" section, but it needs a Leela's Homeworld commentary quote. Can anyone provide this? :)
DIRed14.2 05:20, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Opening phrase gags
What happend to the opening gags. Like "Or is it" or "TOO HOT FOR RADIO"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by King Nitro (talk • contribs) 15:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- What do you mean, what heppened to them? Are you talking about this article, or the series? They continued on the series until its end and will likely come back with the return. ~ Switch (✉✍☺☒) 08:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Too serious
Is it at all possible to just enjoy the show, without going into minute detail about everything that appears in the foreground, background, the psychology of the characters, etc? Do you so called experts feel the need to sterilize everything you see or hear just to know that you have taken the joy out of yet another fun activity, to wit watching Futurama? If you have children, do you lecture them on the history of sandboxes, the belief system of 13th century monks re: swimming, or the mechanics of running in a grassy field? I would not be surprised. PS kids like that are the next generation of serial killers. 24.82.166.99 19:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC) Geez, okay, there's the signature. Happy now?
Middle Initials
Does anyone have a reference for when middle initials were given to Kif and Zoidberg? The articles here list them as Doctor John D. Zoidberg and Lieutenant Kif L. Kroker. I'm thinking that their titles were simply used by fans/vandals to create middle initials. - Quolnok 15:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure when they were given but I know the Zoidberg article was just recently moved to the "full name" without discussion. I may suggest a move back on that talk page shortly. Stardust8212 16:01, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Fox executives "not liking" the show
I took out the reference to Fox executives reportedly disliking the show, as Ain't It Cool News (the reference given) seemed to be half-kidding on that point, and didn't seem to have a source for it. Graymornings 23:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Would you like to ask Billy West a question?
I am interviewing Billy West, voice of Philip J. Fry, Professor Hubert Farnsworth, Dr. Zoidberg and Zapp Brannigan, next Thursday, November 15. If you have questions for West, leave them on my talk page. --David Shankbone 22:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Carbon Neutral DVD
Apparently Futurama: Bender's Big Score was 20th Century Fox's first Carbon neutral DVD release. I think this is an important note but I'm not sure where to add it. Source. Stardust8212 02:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to drag a lame edit war back up, but...
I still think that Fry was "cryogenically" frozen instead of "cryonically" frozen. Most, if not all sources say that he was cryogenically frozen, and I haven't seen one source saying that he was cryonically frozen.
I've made a few google searches, and these were the results for "cryogenically frozen", and these results all describe Fry being frozen (see here for example). Then I did a search for "cryonically frozen", and the only results I got were Misplaced Pages's Futurama entry, and "The Cryonic Woman" episode title. Nothing else said he was "cryonically frozen".
The offical episode summary of Space Pilot 3000 said he was cryogenically frozen (as in the DVD's, not the Misplaced Pages article), and even the Futurama crew said cryogenically. One user said that they aren't scientists, so it should be "cryonically". Well, they are scientists. They created Futurama, and would what they are saying, otherwise a spell checking person of some sort would've corrected them before they released (not really, of course, but you get the idea).
This encyclopedia is built on sources, and saying he's cryonically frozen is ignoring the sources, which isn't what wikipedia does. I have read other books and comics that weren't related to Futurama, but were related to Fry's situation, and they all said "cryogenically frozen" (I can even upload a screenshot of a simpsons comic page if you want). Also, I'd like you to read The plot section of the first Austin Powers movie, where it says "he places himself in a cryogenic freezing chamber". And Cryonics in mass culture also says "cryogenically" a few times. Even a few other articles related to Futurama also say "cryogenically".
Judging by all these reasons I've listed, the word should be changed to "cryogenically"; even "]" would suffice. I am not going to change it now, as I don't want it to turn into another revert war, but I do want it changed to "cryogenically". This is all I ask. Thank you. --AAA! (AAAA) 03:33, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- I've noticed the same trend in the media but was avoiding bringing it up, I wrestled with the same issue working on Space Pilot 3000. I honestly think our best course of action is to just say he was "frozen" and be done with it. "frozen at a cryogenics facility" or "frozen at Applied Cryogenics" are also good options. I'd just like the constant switching back and forth to end and if that can be accomplished by playing games with the wording then I'm all for it. Stardust8212 03:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- As a side note I decided to archive the talk page, previous discussions on this topic are now at Cryonics/Cryogenics and Cryonics/Cryogenics... again. Stardust8212 04:35, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- According to my dictionary (Oxford English), cryonics is "the practice or technique of deep-freezing the bodies of those who have died of an incurable disease, in the hope of a future cure," and cryogenics is "the branch of physics dealing with the production and effects of very low temperatures." l'aqúatique 01:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if about 100 other articles, sources and external links say "cryogenically frozen" (such as the links I've given above), we might as well keep the Futurama articles saying "cryogenically" as well, unless you want to change all those articles to "cryonically frozen" and as ignore the sources. As I've said before, the "]" link would suffice, as it gives the word most commonly said and known, but will still link to the right definition of the word. --AAA! (AAAA) 00:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- I've been thinking about it, and I'm taking Stardust's idea (just say "frozen" and leave it at that, but with a link). It's nice and neutral and won't cause any more edit wars. What about "cryopreserved"? --AAA! (AAAA) 00:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- The comment above by l'aqúatique provides correct definitions, as can be confirmed by looking at the definitions on the Misplaced Pages cryogenics page. Just because the terms have been misused by others doesn't mean that they need to be misused here. Having a link from "frozen" go to "cryonics" does not, at least, promote the common misuse of the term "cryogenics" to mean "cryonics", although from a technical point of view it is misleading, because "frozen" no more means "cryonics" than does "cryogenics". My first preference would be to restore "frozen in a cryonics lab", even though that is slightly misleading. But "cryopreserved" would be completely accurate, even if less informative, so I would find that to be an acceptable compromise if others find it more acceptable. --GirlForLife (talk) 01:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- I've been thinking about it, and I'm taking Stardust's idea (just say "frozen" and leave it at that, but with a link). It's nice and neutral and won't cause any more edit wars. What about "cryopreserved"? --AAA! (AAAA) 00:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if about 100 other articles, sources and external links say "cryogenically frozen" (such as the links I've given above), we might as well keep the Futurama articles saying "cryogenically" as well, unless you want to change all those articles to "cryonically frozen" and as ignore the sources. As I've said before, the "]" link would suffice, as it gives the word most commonly said and known, but will still link to the right definition of the word. --AAA! (AAAA) 00:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- According to my dictionary (Oxford English), cryonics is "the practice or technique of deep-freezing the bodies of those who have died of an incurable disease, in the hope of a future cure," and cryogenics is "the branch of physics dealing with the production and effects of very low temperatures." l'aqúatique 01:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- As a side note I decided to archive the talk page, previous discussions on this topic are now at Cryonics/Cryogenics and Cryonics/Cryogenics... again. Stardust8212 04:35, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
United States of Earth
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- Just moving this from my talk page, it was apparently given to me due to my move of the page earlier then someone cut/pasting the content over the redirect, thus spliting the edit history. Anyways it's back at the wrong tittle, has been for a while now, and someone wants it gone. - Quolnok (talk) 04:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- Multiple pages in {{Futurama}} have been PRODed or listed at AfD. Interested editors should have a look through the template to see what all has been listed and if they can fix the articles to address the concerns. Stardust8212 04:22, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Fox Sunday NFL Doubleheader.
There should be noted under ratings during the 7:00 EST time slot, if there was a NFL doubleheader that Sunday it always cut into most of Futurama on the East Coast. GWatson • 09:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
The same thing seemed to happen a lot with baseball. I'd have to look up the exact numbers, but it's a fairly common complaint that Fox's cartoons - even its flagship the Simpsons - got bumped off the air routinely for sports. By the fourth season, when I got the DVD I realized I hadn't even *seen* most of it. >_> 70.173.192.87 (talk) 09:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Nerd in joke apparently missed?
Not sure if you doyens of Futurama want to include this, but some of Bender's alcoholic preferences are in fact programming languages, eg; "Ye Olde Fortran". Nerdy. Rolinator (talk) 10:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Ref 55
There is a problem with this ref. It is to a blog site (that alone is a problem), but the real problem is that it is only viewable to people invited to view it. That is not acceptable as a source and should either be changed or a warning added. The sentence should also be changed because the only high definition DVD is HD DVD (Blu-ray Disc is not DVD and does not have the approval of the DVD Forum), and Fox is not supporting HD DVD. Maybe it should be changed to "high definition media". TJ Spyke 01:52, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Robert Sheckley
A couple of things in the series, most notably the idea of Martians being Chinese, and Suicide booths (complete with the main character thinking it's a phone booth and getting in line) seem to be lifted straight out of Robert Sheckley's 1950s SF novel "Immortality Inc." Is this worth mentioning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.178.141.139 (talk) 16:56, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Futurama Martians are not Chinese--they're parodies of American Indians. Not even all the human settlers on Mars are Chinese. Don't be fooled because Amy's parents are.CarlFink (talk) 00:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
episodes...vandal
the article says that there are 9 seasons to Futurama. I think that's incorrect, but I don't know for a fact. It also says there have been 9,999 episodes. I know thats false. Unfortuneately, I can't edit that, so would someone plz get to it?] 4:19, 3 January 2008
- It was blatant vandalism, User:Ccs4ever fixed it. To fix things like this in the future consider reading WP:UNDO. Stardust8212 14:39, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
first names
Some mention should probably be made of how with the exception of Bender, Amy and Hermes, most primary characters' first names are rarely ever used and not even revealed until later episodes. --NEMT (talk) 19:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Number of seasons
I am moving this discussion from my talk page to this talk page, as this is the more appropriate place for it. User Stco23 has been claiming that there are additional seasons of the show than what this article has previously reflected. Here is what he claimed on my talk page:
It look like you didn't listen to me ether. That was a true fact that I put down and you reverted it. There was five seasons in the US because it was on the 7:00 P.M. slot and did not always show it for most of the first run. The UK and other countries had four seasons because it had better ratings in those places and showed it most of the time. The episode page goes by the volume DVD sets. Please put back my edit. Thank you.
— Stco23 (talk) 04:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I hope that Stco23 can elaborate on this point, as the way it is presented thus far is rather vague. I believe that we should keep this page consistent with List of Lost episodes, which breaks down the seasons by production codes, making four seasons. Can we please weigh in on this issue here and make a decision instead of having an edit war? Thanks! Jtrost ( | C | #) 04:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
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