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Please do not gratuitously remove content from Misplaced Pages, as you did to the Alexander the Great page. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. — Scientizzle 23:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Please do not add nonsense to Misplaced Pages. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. ForeignerFromTheEast 03:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I am not adding “nonsense”, please refrain from personal attacks. Unlike yourself I view the articles from a neutral viewpoint and they sound quite biased to me. I am simply correcting them.

Hi, you don't seem to be quite new to Misplaced Pages. Are you the person previously editing under the 79.125.178.167 and similar IPs?

Actually I have visited Misplaced Pages a number of times in the past however this is the first time I have joined and have not made any edits in the past as this is my only account. I am interested in ancient history and ancient Macedon is particular, however i was disappointed by the inaccuracies in several pages and that is why I edited them.Ireland101

By the way, your edits to Aleksandar Donski were justified and not vandalism. I'm not saying about those to Alexander the Great. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:56, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

— Scientizzle 15:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Frightner evading his ban

If you see a IP address you suspect might be Frightner you can add it to this list and undo all of the edits of that user. Per Misplaced Pages:Banning policy he is no longer allowed to edit in any way, including talk pages and so on. Then you can let either User:AnonEMouse or User:Neil who are admins and are aware of the case. Thanks. Jingby 18:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I am unaware of this situation, I do not understand why you are posting this here.Ireland101

October 2007

Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Misplaced Pages, as you did to ], you will be blocked from editing. VegitaU 22:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your concerns however please read what I wrote before making personal attacks. As you are not aware I will inform you that government material is public domain. If that is a Greek textbook it is most likely a government document and therefore public domain. And please do not impersonate administrators by claiming you can block me. Ireland101

Ahem. Well, VegitaU's warning was probably a bit too strongly worded, but I think you were nevertheless mistaken. There is no blanket exception from copyright for government publications, certainly not for all countries. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Stormy waters...

Hey Ireland101, it seems you have jumped in right and the deep end here. You are making lots of rather contentious changes, and some of them look a lot like you are pushing a particular opinion. Can you slow it down a bit? Thanks! And above all, please do no engage in revert-wars, people can get blocked from editing if they undo other people's edits repeatedly (3 times during 24 hours is absolute red line).

If you have questions about how things work here, please don't hesitate to contact me. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Revert-wars

Please, try to discuss what you plan to add/remove from an article before doing so (especially if the topic is highly controversial). So far the only thing you have done is wage in edit-wars one after the other straight-away. And reverting an article using your IP to avoid breaking 3RR is totally unacceptable. I see you have been warned on a number of times already and once even by an Admin. Consider all these warnings before you engage in the next conflict and try using the Talkpage. (All this is just in case you are not one of the already banned users as some of your edit summaries impose) --Laveol 00:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Just for the protocol - you were warned by 5 editors so far, but you are complaining only from me and Foreigner. Is there any particular reason for this? --Laveol 00:39, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you should read what I wrote to the administrator before making more accusations. I was not complaining about being "warned", I was complaining about the fact that Foreigner has been deleting my edits without explanation and that you had been accusing me of starting "edit wars" when it is you that is on mission to delete my contributions. I was also complaining that you have been slandering me several times by claiming I am using my "IP to avoid breaking 3RR", that is a ridiculous lie and I will not tolerate it. You are also spreading lies that I am secretly some banned user. You and foreigner are the only users that I am having an ongoing dispute with. I have even tried to make dialogue with you on your talk page and you have refused to. Perhaps if you look at this talk page you will also notice that I have had a dispute with "Scientizzle" therefore it is not only you and Foreigner that I have ever had a dispute with. Ireland101

Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Misplaced Pages pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 01:32, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Jovano Jovanke

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Jovano Jovanke, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Corvus cornix 02:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Repeatedly removing an AfD tag from an article will get you blocked from editing. Corvus cornix 15:45, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Makedonsko Devoiche

Hi Ireland101 -- thanks for the heads-up on the AfD for Makedonsko Devoiche... I've put my 2c worth in... Let's see how it goes :| Cheers, AWN AWN2 03:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for adding your incite into the AfD for Makedonsko Devoiche. It would be great if the AfD fails because the songs listed have a historical significance not just for Macedonia but the whole Balkans. Ireland101 15:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Makedonsko Devoiche - Reply, opinion still delete.

Thanks for the talk page message. However, after looking at the two pages, I would consider the BBC mention to be very brief, not much more than a listing, and the Soros Foundation page looks to me like merely a set of lyrics. I cannot consider either of them "substantial third-party coverage", so I'm afraid my opinion is still Delete. - fchd 08:34, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for reading my message and looking at the sources. Ireland101 15:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Bulgarian/ethnic Macedonian

Plz see Talk:Boris Sarafov and make comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Li4kata (talk • contribs) 09:10, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Ireland101! In articles for Sarafov, Sandanski and Karev is written that in Republic of Macedonian they are sonsidered for ethnic Macedonian. Is it not stupid in articles writing that this persons was defined themself like Bulgarian but in category to be Bulgarian and Macedonian (ethnic) together? --Li4kata 20:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Li4kata I have already explained this to you several times. What you say may be true for yourself however other users have a different view. Misplaced Pages is not one-sided. Ireland101 21:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Arbcom case

I've taken the whole set of Macedonia-related edit warring to the Arbitration committee. You are named as a party to the case. Please see WP:RFAR#Macedonia. Thank you, Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 00:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

NOB

Hello Ireland101, you may be interested in helping to improve the quality and resolve POV on the "controversial" article People's Liberation War of Macedonia. Please consider it. Thank you for you time. Лилјак 10:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Reverting layout of a map and info, that was debated here months ago, after sourcing with book ISBN 954-8187-42-6, as a POV is very strange and against the rules! Pleace, read the article before editing. Regards. Jingby (talk) 07:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

From reading the talk page, it appears that you are the only one initiating debates on the article and supporting neo-nazi propaganda. Лилјак (talk) 08:17, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Your "ancient Macedonia" page

Just for your information, below is what I wrote on the talk page, before it too was deleted (twice, actually). Fut.Perf. ☼ 23:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't find this article makes much sense as is. If you want to write about the ancient kingdom of Macedonia, it already has an article: Macedon (and that could do with some expansion, to be sure). But that wasn't a "republic", so where does that word come from in the title?

We could of course simply redirect this page there, but I find the "republic" irritating, it doesn't really make for a plausible redirect. Can you just transfer whatever you want to include to Macedon and then let's delete this page?

Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:56, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Someone speedied the article; somewhat out of process but ultimately the correct coutcome. If anybody wants to see the material to integrate some of it elsewhere, let me know and I'll make it temporarily accessible.

This talk page was also deleted; I've taken the freedom to restore it temporarily so we can round up this discussion. (Sorry, Mordecai, hope you won't mind.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:55, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Can you post the link to the talk page as I cannot find it. Ireland101 (talk) 04:33, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

As I said, it was deleted too (); but it didn't contain anything else besides your comments and mine above. If you want to discuss it further, we can keep it here fore the moment. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Bulgarian views on the Macedonian language

An article that you have been involved in editing, Bulgarian views on the Macedonian language, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Bulgarian views on the Macedonian language. Thank you.

WP:Citing sources

Read it carefully and try again. I'm pretty sure you have not even seen the book (it was not even you who added the source on the first place). Prove that this is a valid source, cite the page and some other prove (cause citing a random page is not enough). Sources are not for play and do not try to use them to add blatant POV to articles. --Laveol 18:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Josip Broz Tito

Hello, I have heard a lot about your edits! This new yugoslav state was started under Josip Broz Tito in the 40's/ You removed my edit calling it useless. I would like an immediate answer as to why it is before I take this to moderators. I am also currently going through other edits you made, so I may be back. Thankyou. Reaper7 21:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia closed

The above arbitration case has closed, and the final decision may be found here. Any uninvolved administrator may, on their own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working on Balkans-related articles if that editor fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, the expected standards of behavior, or the normal editorial process. Discretionary sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the administrators' noticeboard, or the Committee. For the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 02:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Once again

I understand your political reasons for adding such things to articles, but Misplaced Pages is not a place to spread propaganda. Samuil ruled in the X-XI century and you're adding pictures to things you claim have been found in his fortress, but are dated to 13 centuries before his time. Why do you find it necessary to push one and the same stuff to a such variety of articles? --Laveol 19:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

You've made some nice accusations there - but once again - read the rules for the sake of participating in the project. Your edits are ultimately POV-pushing in every single occasion. Almost all your edits have been reverted on a number of topics for pushing one and the same agenda. --Laveol 20:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

You are correct, the ones that have reverting my edits are people totally focused on POV. They do not want to allow any edits which hint at the existence of a Macedonian nation.Ireland101 (talk) 21:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Besides Macedonian related articles, what other articles do you edit?Ireland101 (talk) 21:11, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Everybody has to have a specialty - and yet, I do, in fact edit a lot of other stuff and, yes, I do take this as a provocation, and yes, it does seem that the whole world is against you, cause you're obviously the only one that is ultimately right (sorry for the sarcasm, but you've been reverted by tons of editors - Greek, Bulgarian and non-Balkan editors - I know they are obviously all biased and POV-pushers)--Laveol 21:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Kalash

Hey, you recently added a website link to the Kalash article that uses "'Y-Chromosomal Diversity in Europe Is Clinal and Influenced Primarily by Geography, Rather than by Language.' Table 1. Rosser et al. Am. J. Hum. Genet. 67:1526-1543, 2000" as its source. I took a look at that article and it includes 47 instead of the 69 populations of the first website (the Kalash most importantly aren't included in the article). Where do the additional haplogroup analyses come from? 3rdAlcove (talk) 07:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but the text will have to be removed until you find a source, then. I didn't remove it outright because I wasn't certain. 3rdAlcove (talk) 20:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

No, it does matter. Anyone can put up a website containing erroneous or fabricated info. That's why we need a source explaining the remaining 22 haplogroup analyses. (Not to mention that the website you added has been deleted and its content is only available on the 'wayback machine'; doesn't do much to help its reputation) 3rdAlcove (talk) 21:08, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree. You should e-mail him and share his response since it might shed some light. 3rdAlcove (talk) 23:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

your empty threats

So now you're threatening me with a block, pretending that you are an administrator? You must be getting really desperate. You're empty threats are as ineffectual as your POV-pushing, and will get you nowhere. Just like all your previous attempts to eliminate users who don't agree with your extremist views. --Tsourkpk (talk) 06:17, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Please stop with the accusations, I never said I am an administrator nor do I want to be one. All I am doing is applying the correct template to your talk page as identified in the user warning system. Ireland101 (talk) 06:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

You are pretending to be an administrator by threatening to block me, an ability which you don't have. --Tsourkpk (talk) 06:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I am not pretending to be an administrator. Ireland101 (talk) 06:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Then don't threaten me with something you cannot do. --Tsourkpk (talk) 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry you are confused but this is Misplaced Pages policy. Ireland101 (talk) 07:15, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Revert parole

Per the remedies contained in Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia, I'm limiting you to one revert per page per week, excepting obvious vandalism. Further, you are required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page. This will apply for six months, and is due to your recent edit-warring across multiple pages. Violations of this parole will be met with escalating blocks. Moreschi 17:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Zdravo

Znaeš li deka samo nie dve sme aktivnite Makedonci na ovaa Vikipedija? BalkanFever 02:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)