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Golden Wiki

A few days overdue but a hearty well done for getting Nancy to FA. Its not often you see editors with the persevance to contribute so much to the wiki and in honour of that I award you the highest and most respected of wikiawards for getting both Nancy and RR to FA.

		The Golden Wiki Award
		For getting both Nancy Reagan and Ronald Reagan to Misplaced Pages:Featured Article status. LordHarris 14:18, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Ronald Reagan Barnstar

		The Ronald Wilson Reagan Barnstar of Valor
		for cleaning up the Ronald Wilson Reagan article, in keeping with WP:NPOV--ChaplineRVine 22:24, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

California Barnstar

Hi, just to great work on the Ronald Reagan article. I often check on it every few days and you've made loads of great edits. Please have a california barnstar for your great work.

		The California Star
		For all your efforts on improving the Ronald Reagan article LordHarris 15:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Original Barnstar

Hello Happyme22. I've kept an eye on the Ronald Reagan article since commenting on the peer review and admire your resilient efforts to keep moving the article forward. There may be inevitable POV issues on an article as complex as this, and the job is a near impossible one, but the work to improve the readability and formatting on a major article is much appreciated.

		The Original Barnstar
		Here is a barnstar in recognition of Happyme22's tireless efforts to improve the Ronald Reagan article. Zleitzen 14:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Patience is a virtue....

The Zen Garden Award

		Zen Garden Award for Infinite Patience
		Ronnie would be looking down and smiling. 10 points for persistence...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Finally. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

New Reagan White House entertaning book

Hi HappyMe22. You may already know about, or even have, this new book, but I wanted to send you a link in the event you do not:

http://www.amazon.com/Entertaining-White-House-Nancy-Reagan/dp/0061350125/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196941751&sr=1-1

The book is written and edited by two freinds of Nancy reagan, both interior decorators, one of who worked for Ted Graber. CApitol3 (talk) 11:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin

Hi. I just wondered if you'd consider letting me nominate you for adminship, as you seem experienced enough. Thanks. Epbr123 (talk) 01:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

You'd get my vote.--STX 00:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

SimWhiteHouse

Removed attack posts from IP 212.84.103.196. --Happyme22 (talk) 05:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Summarizing Reagan

Of course we all appreciate the work you have done on this article and making it what it is today. I do not mean to destroy your article. I agree that I may have gone too far in summarizing it the way I did, but since a summary was already available on the presidency page, I just used that. Currently, the way these two articles exist side by side just looks ugly to me. You say that the presidency article needs to be rewritten, and I am sure it could be improved, possibly by again copying the current presidency section in the Reagan article to that article. However, this does not change the fact that all this information should not be duplicated.

Again, your work is not being ruined here (at least not intentionally); material is only being moved, the detailed presidency article is still available. Who knows, perhaps it too can become a featured article someday (or maybe even today, since it is after all basically a part of a page that is already a featured article). --KarlFrei (talk) 09:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback

I made the changes you suggested at Tawfiq Canaan. I removed about 33 cites for Nashef (?!? - I didn't realize how many I had placed there. I've gotten used to having to footnote every sentence or risk deletion, working as I do on Middle East related topics. Even then, it sometimes doesn't help.) I also added the PDF link. The suggestion to do a separate article on his published works is a great idea, but will have to wait until I can find more sources. I've also added a couple of wikilinks and combined a couple of sentences for flow.

Thanks so much for your feedback and encouragement. Tiamut 01:58, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Yay! Thanks. Tiamut 04:32, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Nancy Reagan

I have no clue how Today's Feature Article was chosen. It was chosen by User:Ral315 OhanaUnited 17:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, OhanaUnited meant the similarly-named Raul654 -- he's the one who is responsible for choosing featured articles. You can ask him, but I do believe that's exactly what you need to do -- just add Ronald Reagan there sometime closer to February 6 (bearing in mind that only 5 requests can be up at any time). Ral315 (talk) 19:39, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem -- it's certainly not the first time it's happened :) Ral315 (talk) 20:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

December 2007

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Not to try and bite, but please be cautious! :) Jmlk17 08:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I am quoting from your edits to my talk page re: Nancy Reagan

I wasn't "showing my own bias", as you said in your undoing of my revision. The country was in economic decline, and she wasn't criticised that heavily for the China Patterns incident...it was only a minor issue. If anything, her extravagant wardrobe became more of an issue with the press and the public.

I have rewritten the article as best possible to read as organized and to not reflect any bias.

This was not an "attack post". May I suggest you re-read the wikipedia NPOV standards? 74.73.106.239 (talk) 08:25, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

"Please do not add nonsense to Misplaced Pages to the Nancy Reagan page...It is considered vandalism...I am cleaning up the article from anons like yourself who have flooded it with poor info, POV, and vandalism!"

So I am politely asking: exactly what nonsense have I added? In what way are my edits vandalism? What poor info have I flooded the article with? Please don't talk about the "floods" of others you may have decided to address, but only the items I have done.

I have clearly explained my edits: to create better flow with the article, to show that the China Replenishing was only a minor item that was criticised in her actions, that bringing glamour back to the presidency was criticized during an established during a period of national economic recession.

I am also politely asking why you are insisting that your edit is somehow better? I am confident that we can find a satisfactory wording for both of us, however, not if you behave in a territorial manner over this article without justification. 74.73.106.239 (talk) 08:41, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests#Nancy_Reagan

I am asking that you see the Nancy Reagan Discussion page for your response to my requested editorial changes. 74.73.106.239 (talk) 18:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and God bless!

As a random act of kindness, I would like to wish you a Merry Christmas and joyous New Year! ~ UBeR (talk) 04:32, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dick Cheney

• Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Dick Cheney you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. You might consider performing a GA review on an article that interests you (not one nominated by me). This will help Misplaced Pages achieve high standards and "pass around what comes around." Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 14:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
• Dear Happyme, Initially, I felt that there was too much to do to pass Dick Cheney for GA status. However, your dedication to achieving that status made me decide that I'd do everything I could to push it forward, as well. Since I have done some major editing, I feel that we need to let others check in and make sure that I didn't create more problems than I solved. I've done a proof-reading. Perhaps you could comb through and fix problems that you see. Let's see how things stand on January 17 for a final determination of GA status. Sincerely,--User:HopsonRoad 14:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK: Nelle Wilson Reagan

On 26 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nelle Wilson Reagan, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Happy Boxing Day! --PFHLai (talk) 19:27, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Ron Paul Revolution

Ron Paul Revolution http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ron_Paul_Revolution#Ron_Paul_Revolution

If you have time I would like to hear your comments on this page. Thank you.--Duchamps comb (talk) 00:44, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Margaret Thatcher

Hi, thank you for the kind comments. I'm going to work through the article chronologically and add references/more information as I read through. As I am reading as I am going for the first time, it will take a few days but should greatly expand the article. Please do go over my edits and tweak them; as sometimes my prose can be a bit muddled. Look forward to working with you and others to improve the article. LordHarris 21:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

John Kefalas

Thanks for your comments and your good article review of John Kefalas. I've made some changes to the article in response to your comments; if they aren't satisfactory, let me know and I'll try to work on it some more. It would be helpful, if you have further critiques, if you could be a little more specific, especially with respect to things that may be "missing" from the article. Thanks! -- Sethant (talk) 22:18, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks like you promoted it while I was leaving my message! Thanks again! -- Sethant (talk) 22:19, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

al gore in popular culture

shouldn't there be a link to the article from within the main gorespace? Anastrophe (talk) 01:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Re request

> I was wondering if you could check out a discussion here?

Looked at it, but to be honest these are the kind of edit disputes I try to avoid. Trying to write about people in the opinion industry is fruitless, as I see it, and that's pretty much all that this book of Carter's was. In other words, if I were to work on the Carter article, I'd spend time on the Camp David Accords, where what Carter thought about Arab-Israeli relations really mattered, and not on some book he wrote in 2006, when it didn't. Right now it seems the two have about equal space in the article, which is crazy WP:Recentism. Wasted Time R (talk) 05:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I put in my two cents at the Jimmy Carter article. The user who insists on keeping the POV version has a history of putting too much emphasis on minor things. For example, he continues to remove and revert attempts at reinstating a tag at United States presidential election, 2008 that states it is an ungoing election. My advise is to just revert back to your version since you have the whole WP:NPOV policy on your side.--STX 06:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 31 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article An American Life, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Royalbroil 13:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

happy Mango season

Happy New Year, Hap!

I actually meant to send you an wiki holiday greeting, but Couple bags of crazy on the santa page kept me tied up until my trip overseas for the holidays. How was your Christmas/Hannukah/Kwanzaa/Joyous Feast of Baying at the Moon/whatever?
I also wanted to ask you about this edit. Fair.Org does some pretty tremendous stuff, and the article seemed pretty spot-on. Granted, Cindy5a's edit of that was pretty awful not very neutrally-written, but it seems that a better re-write could have been performed, instead of a removal. Your thoughts on the matter? - Arcayne () 21:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

RR

I have left a comment on the talk page re: cold war legacy. LordHarris 10:28, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Reagan's role in the Cold War

Hey Happy, thanks for the note. I'm currently vacationing so I didn't have time to leave anything more than a brief note at the talk page. I'll be back home around the 11th so I could hopefully help out more then (if you don't already have it wrapped up).--Rise Above The Vile 23:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for not commenting sooner, I've had some computer trouble I've been dealing with. Don't worry about "bothering" me on vacation - you didn't, I just didn't have constant access to the internet where I was staying. As for the section; I'm generally supportive of the material presented (especially the second paragraph). The second sentence strikes me as needing revision however, because it presents something as fact that cannot be conclusively determined. Instead, we should present it as the consensus opinion of a number of scholars. Other than that I think the section is fairly well done, it could use a bit more expansion though that shouldn't be too difficult - the sources you've dug up are fantastic. I'll try to help out with the actual wording in a few days after I've got my computer working again.--Rise Above The Vile 17:44, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Usually, when someone removes text of a discussion, saying they are moving it to the relevant discussion, it is customary to note the new location of that discussion. Where did you move it to, Hap? - Arcayne () 01:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

retrospective award

No no, you got it for Ronnie, he got it for Truman...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Damn, Nobody gives me an award for defending the neutrality of articles. Humph!.

Anyway, I chose to say "a number of scandals" instead of "a few" because it makes it sound like there were just a small number of them, and of course we both know there were a bit more than a few. A "number of scandals" is more accurate, and far more neutral than saying there were a great many scandals of significant weight (Iran-Contra was about nothing less than treason). I thought I was being neutral.

And by the way, congrats on the award, Hap. :) - Arcayne () 05:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, as an Aussie I am a bit out of the loop with alot of US politics. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, that bit was meant for Happy, Cas. thanks for the message, though. very clever method. :) - Arcayne () 07:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Reagan, who else

I recall you saying we might remove the "Close of the Reagan era" section since it is in the Presidency article. Given the recent increases in size, this seems like an even better idea now. Do you still agree? --KarlFrei (talk) 14:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Merv Griffin

yeah...we've been here before. you were wrong, then and you're wrong now. further, you should know better than to use that image which is absolutely not licensed for use in infoboxes. --emerson7 04:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

geez dude...lighten up. you really shouldn't take this, or yourself....or me for that matter....so seriously.

firstly, quoting the text of {{Non-free DVD cover}}, the image is only be used: to illustrate the DVD in question. the context in which it is currently being used (the infobox) is an illustration of merv, not the dvd. see this conversation thread referencing PrevinPlaysMyFairLady.jpg.

regarding the section heading, i think you are being far too pedantic with the 'biography' thing. the number of articles with that section heading is uncountable such that is could easily be considered the defacto standard. for you to be so 'absolute' with your assertion doesn't make much sense....to me.

lastly, none of this is worth getting all riled up over....we're all here just trying to make a good article.

finaly.....merv was gay. at some point evidence trumps declaration. cheers! --emerson7 01:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Giovanni Villani

Following the model I used when nominating the Chinese history article Song Dynasty, I hope that the current revision of the online citation format I just used is correct for Giovanni's article; otherwise make it known on the FAC discussion page that there is something wrong with it.

Oh, and about the lazy fart thing, you're not one of them considering how you read the article. See how that works? Lol. Thanks for commenting.--Pericles of Athens 03:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Ronald Reagan filmography‎

Are you planning on adding any text to Ronald Reagan filmography‎ ? If not, right now it violates Misplaced Pages is not a directory. Corvus cornix_talk 05:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, so long as it isn't just a list.  :) Corvus cornix_talk 05:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

RSM

Haha, should we hit up TGI Friday's or Borders Books? Wait, I forgot, we have a Target WITH a Starbucks, too! the_undertow 03:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Long term requests

To reply to your question - No, I don't pay attention to the long term requests page. I created the requests page as the exclusive place to put requests. And (at the risk of repeating myself from that talk page) when I say a limit of 5 requests, I really, really, mean 5 -- not 5 on that page, plus others elsewhere. Raul654 (talk) 05:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:The Merv Griffin Show.jpg listed for deletion

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re: Reagan TFA

I understand your plight, but it's the principle of the thing. I do not wish this as a slight against you, as I hold you no personal ill will, but I (and others, so I've seen) believe that were Reagan to appear on the main page nearly a month after his wife, it would give undue weight not only to the subject matter but to the shared primary editor(s). There are many featured articles that have been waiting longer, frankly, and the articles are far too closely related. So it's immaterial whether or not you wished Nancy Reagan to appear on the main page -- it did anyway. On a more personal note (although my objection certainly has nothing to do with me, mind you), speaking as someone with an FA of my own under my belt, it's somewhat discouraging to see a fellow editor who wants to be featured twice within the span of two months. You're not alone in wanting to be recognized, remember. :) Another user had the very good suggestion of nominating the article again in November to coincide with the election/Alzheimer's -- that is if the article isn't randomly chosen before that -- so perhaps this would be a suitable plan if the current TFA doesn't go through? María (habla conmigo) 03:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

• Happyme22, the TFA nomination is not the disaster you have painted it. Raul may still choose the article for 6 February (the !votes don't bind him to a decision) or he may choose the article at a different time before next February. Please understand that no one is saying the article isn't good. We are simply trying to balance out readers' needs with editors' desires - it is not always a simple task. I would encourage you to consider the November suggestion as well. Awadewit | talk 03:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Just echoing the above users. It's not the end of the world if Reagan isn't picked for February 6; it's not like it can't be featured at some later date. And a high-quality article will always be high-quality regardless of whether or not it has been featured on the main page. BuddingJournalist 03:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not Awadewit, as my lack of any knowledge of 18th century children's literature and/or Mary Wollstonecraft should tell you. Therefore, what she !voted has nothing to do with me. I would, however, like to point out that those three 19th century American articles are not about a husband and wife political powerhouse team and were not written by the same editor. María (habla conmigo) 03:42, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

December 24th to February 6 is only 43 days; that is less than a month and a half. Again, nothing personal, but it's highly unfair to other worthy articles and editors. You should be glad that one of your articles made it to the main page so quickly after it was promoted to FA status. Give someone else the opportunity to shine. María (habla conmigo) 03:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

boy, you really do

own the Nancy Reagan article, don't you? Seems like nobody can make any edits there without you arguing them into submission. I mean, look at that second paragraph: all the criticisms of her First Ladyship seem to point to successes while invalidating the criticisms.

Several others in the history of this article have also tried to change that paragraph and other areas of the article that sound biased, but you just don't give up until your POV stands or your "opponent" is too tired. Way to go, Misplaced Pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.228.83 (talk) 06:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)