Misplaced Pages

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Chelsea Tory (talk | contribs) at 16:10, 12 February 2008 (Reply). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

This user is very busy in real life and may not respond swiftly to queries.

/Archive 1

Your cheery and polite note

Two things.

First, I can't for the life of me understand why you'd think I'd know nothing about it. Rushing to judgment in these matters is a terrible thing, and so embarrassing later.

Simple. Your edits demonstrated it. Chelsea Tory (talk) 16:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Second, dawdle over to the main page when you've time. It says there, right on top "Misplaced Pages! The free encyclopaedia that anyone can edit." Not "the free encyclopaedia that only those with personal acquaintance of the subject can edit" or, for that matter - tragically - "the free encyclopaedia only those that are not cretins can edit".

So, I suggest you moderate your tone just a smidgen. I might be a little lost lamb in these matters - in your opinion formed in such unfortunate haste - but nevertheless I can edit that damned article.

About the facts of this particular matter: we use the most 'mainstream' view of the matter in our text, and, as the title of the associated article suggests, the mainstream view is that the House was reformed, not that the hereditary peers were 'expelled'. And about the other matter, you may or may not be right. I certainly hasten to point out that we have a reliable source specifically saying editor and one, less reliable, saying patron. Under such circs., best to use a formulation that doesn't come down on one side or another.

Relata refero (talk) 08:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You are editing things you clearly have no knowledge of and from an obvious political perspective. Yes, the main page says anyone can edit but I wouldn't edit something about which I had no knowledge or simple didn't like. You are making edits which are both wrong and which you obviously don't like. Misplaced Pages is not a vehicle for that. The House of Lords was not reformed at all. Reforms were proposed but nothing happened. The hereditary peerage were expelled from their house. Its really that simple. Lets stick to the brazen facts. Chelsea Tory (talk) 08:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

And that in itself was considered a reform by many. Actually, most. The relevant article is here; if you succeed in changing the terminology used there, the main article, over the protests of the -er- socialists and neo-Lloyd Georgeians who police it to ensure it stays in line with the mainstream view, I'll be happy to let you change the text in the Sudeley article.

And believe me, you haven't the vaguest idea what my political - and actual - perspective on the Lords is. Relata refero (talk) 08:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

What? You'll be happy to let me change something?? And pray tell, just who are you to speak on behalf of "many" or "most"? And you speak of "good faith"! The simple fact of the matter is NO reforms have ever taken place. I couldn't care less what has been placed in another Wikiepdia article. Misplaced Pages's policy is that other articles on WP are not satisfactory references. The constitutional situation is that the Hereditary Peers were expelled from their own House (and are preparing a constitutional legal battle at this moment). It is a simple matter. And by the way, not one single Liberal giovernment ever had such a measure in one of their manifestos (although the talked about 'reform'. Total abolition was a socialist objective. Chelsea Tory (talk) 16:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)