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I, Deon555, award Random832 with this Da Vinci Barnstar, for his awesome monobook work. He helped me solve a nice little script issue I was having, fixed the lot, and it works awesomely. Thanks heaps, and keep up the good work! — Deon555desk03:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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I am concerned with the number of user-pages in this category, which means that they will be deleted. In particular, because of another warning template User talk:Thegone was deleted taking useful warnings with it. RichFarmbrough, 13:40 10 February2008 (GMT).
Re your message: A3 is what I've seen it mostly used for. However, I've also seen some people using it instead of G7.
On a side note, one bug that I've run into that burned me on an attack page is that if somebody blanks a page, but doesn't tag it with a CSD tag, if you select a deletion reason, you end up the deletion reason and content before blanking was: 'whatever' in the deletion log. See User:Gogo Dodo/Sandbox2 for what happens. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Re your message: Yeah, and I kind of miss that from the previous script. From the previous script, the "CSD A7 (Bio)" option would be be perfect for db-nn. I also happen to miss CSD A7 (Band) since it was a specific link to the music notability (though I wish it said "musical artist or band" instead of just "band").
Another thing I just discovered is that if you delete an article with a talk page, MediaWiki inserts "] - talk page of a deleted page" into the reason. Perhaps the script should recognize that and select the proper reason? I ran into this with Sullenearth. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
P.S. Jimp, Atakdoug, and I did a bunch of work on gap widths. It was a contentious issue that took hard work and lots of file sharing to resolve because some computer platforms only allow span gap resolutions of 0.1-em increments, others can handle 0.05-em gap resolutions, different platforms handle span gaps slightly differently, and the eye is very sensitive to gap width issues so that gaps that appear too wide are objectionable and those that are too narrow seem to pretty much disappear. I couldn’t quite keep up at bugzilla:13025 when you wrote “it is better practice to use a class and control the specific styles with stylesheets so that users may override this style in their own user css.” But it seems that what you wrote means the editor—not the “reader”—would be setting styles. If that impression is correct—and I hope I’m wrong—then one will have editors using Macs making decisions that look just perfect on thier machines but which looks bad for Windows people using Explorer (and visa versa). A tweak of just 0.05 em makes a big difference in how satisfied everyone is. I ended up treating the gap after the digit 1 differently from those that follow the other nine digits in order to obtain a solution that satisfied all parties.
I am putting in the extra effort of writing this post to you only because I want the developer’s work to be well-received and widely adopted. I think that may not happen if some people find the results to be “ugly.” My only request is that you ensure that the developer is made aware of the technique we used to get span-widths that resulted in a satisfactory compromise for us all. Background information can be found here, at Talk:Greg L#Platform-independent span-gap comparison, and the full details on the gap width nuances here, at Talk:MOSNUM#Gap width details. Greg L (my talk)19:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Regarding your latest post (difference), I now understand. I thought that might be the case and felt that advanced issues like setting monobook.css—while possible for anyone to do—will be beyond the immediate grasp of many users. Ensuring that the default settings are the best possible compromise right out of the gate is certainly the way to go. I much appreciate your latest post at bugzilla. With everyone’s thoughtful input at each step of the way, I think this is being done perfectly. Regards.
Should I post a message, perhaps at 1.4.6.2, alerting interested parties that the proposal has been advanced to a developer to be made into a parser function? The only reason I’m reticent to do so is it would likely be tagged as “resolved” and then archived. The primary disadvantage of doing this is the links in bugzilla:13025 would have to be updated so the developer can refer to the proposal’s details. That seems easy enough to do as I’m now registered on bugzilla. Greg L (my talk)05:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Negatives
Yes, thank you for your note. I had originally some incomprehensible statement filled with double negatives, which I pruned down when even I couldn't understand it, barely minutes after I wrote it. Seems I pruned just a little too much or too little. Relata refero (talk) 15:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Re: Rename
Hi. If it works, no problem. The reason why I did it is that we used to ask for logged-in confirmation, until we created the template. After the template's inception, we started declining requests that failed to follow the basic instructions. Declining and asking people to repost when the basic instructions are not followed also served the purpose of preventing people from trying to fix the links in the template (people used to get the filling out of the template wrong all the time...), which would normally only make it worse. In order to optimize the time the Bcrats would spend in renames, we were making it clear that if a user didn't take the time to read simple instructions, the requests would be denied, which would cause people to read the instructions, thus preventing silly mistakes that caused us to take more and more time to handle simple requests. Most of this, however, was before clerks started helping out with renames. With the help of the clerks, there's less of a need for us to be too concerned with wasting time fixing silly mistakes. But I guess I was on "automatic". Thanks for the help. :) As a matter of fact, you don't even need to wait until the repost is accepted (if it hasn't been already by now, I haven't checked), you can go ahead and merge now, if you want to. Cheers, Redux (talk) 22:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, you said "I've merged", and I somehow read "I'll merge". I probably need some coffee... All is well then, thanks again. Redux (talk) 01:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Re: your deleted comment
It's difficult to find another way to express this, since the temperature seems to be rising on this discussion. Yes, I do understand. Quite well. And I have been endeavoring to explain to you that the vote stacking issue was by no means a byproduct of the investigation or an afterthought to it. It was in fact one of the principal grounds for suspicion and principal avenues of inquiry, examined at great length and in exacting detail.Durova07:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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