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Editing Biological_classification.svg

Hi there. I've made some tweaks to your image on biological classification (just tweaking colours and typefaces, hope you don't mind!) but I can't find anywhere to upload a new version, and I didn't want to create a new file. Could you tell me where I could do this? Thanks so much. Mr.absurd 22:56, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

hi

hihihihihi hi. HEy look at that ! ciltr's climatic zone is almost the same as pengos!!! nice gif! Cilstr 04:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC) helo agin. how can i tel exactly how many edits i have done?? (feast is on soon)Cilstr 12:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Taxobox

Hi, I come here since you have been closely involved with the taxobox template. Could you tell me what is wrong at Bibasis oedipodea ? Feel free to point me elsewhere. Thanks. Shyamal 08:36, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, skip my note. It's fixed. Shyamal 10:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Chub Leuciscus cephalus >>> Grass carp Ctenoharyngodon idelaa>>_Grass_carp_Ctenoharyngodon_idelaa-2007-04-08T18:59:00.000Z">

You have misnamed a picture in the wikimedia commons. It is clearly a grass carp (lips).Viridiflavus 18:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)>>_Grass_carp_Ctenoharyngodon_idelaa"> >>_Grass_carp_Ctenoharyngodon_idelaa">

Thanks for pointing this out, I'll fix it up —Pengo 23:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Greenhouse Mafia and Lonie Report

I appreciate your thanking me for contributing Greenhouse Mafia.

The Lonie Report of 1980 is proof to me that vested interests have been dictating government policy in Australia for a lot longer than Howard has been Prime Minister. The ability of mineral and car companies to control transport and energy policy probably dates back to the "Northern Development" mania of the Menzies era, which gave companies access to by far the largest mineral deposits on Earth and allowed them to not only control politicians but also to dictate who gets promoted to the road and public transport bureaucracies - making sure the road bureaucracy is much more effective and assertive than the public transport one.

Luokehao, 19:26, 10 April 2007

Latin name

Hello, I'm not sure you remember me from User_talk:Pengo/archive_4#Latin_name, but I asked about scientific name etymology, I simply come to tell you I found this : The Century Dictionary, some names are there, but it's not perfect. Hope it can help you as much as me. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 21:48, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Pengo/taxotest

Right, sorry about this, but that page has found its way into three article categories. These are categories that readers will use to navigate the encyclopedia and find pages similar to the one they are already reading, and so it is innappropriate for userpages to find their way in. As a temporary solution, I have blanked the page. In future, please try to avoid placing it into those categories- perhaps create a mirror of the templates or something, without the cats. J Milburn 09:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Change of plan, I am not blanking, another user is dealing with it with WP:AWB. J Milburn 09:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

No worries. If they get bored with AWB I don't mind it being blanked really. —Pengo 09:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I was going to use AWB until I realized all the categories were added via transcluded templates, so looks like blanking it is. Feel free to recreate a subst'd version of the page without categories, though. VegaDark 10:04, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah you can hide the categories with a template parameter, but i'll just unblank the page while I need it. easier. —Pengo 10:20, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Lions’ age mereger

The suggestion to merge sounds 'automatic' - not everything that has same topic should be mereged to generic pages (where upon will be lost). Lions’ age has meaning outside of the generic lion page. I preserve the right not to share 'automatic' suggestions toward merger. user:kosigrim

Merge

You need to add a section on the talk page to explain the merge. Are the species given under right wale the only ones in the Family? gren グレン 04:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I've put an explanation on the talk page now: Talk:Right_whale#Merge_from_Balaenidae_.2F_crammed_article —Pengo 06:58, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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Concern regarding citation added to Gunns#Gunns 20

I'm a little uneasy about the citation you added to the referenced section, because I really don't think it meets WP:NOR being a information from a primary participant in the case. If it was say a link to a news article reporting on the case that covered the claims of the participants then it would pass. However, because the page in question being linked to is a primary source and is heavy on POV it really shouldn't be included particularly given the emotional and highly charged nature of the subject matter being covered. Please contact me via my talk page with any questions. Cheers, Thewinchester 07:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

The claim it's supporting is that opposing parties consider the case to be silencing criticism, so of course it's going to be someone with that POV saying it. —Pengo 07:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

That's kind of the point i'm getting at. If we can find another source for this it would be much better all things considered. It's fine if they've said it, ensuring that the comment was reported by a media or similar organisation which meets the secondary sources criteria, it would be the better reference to use. Thewinchester 07:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

He said it, He's said that he's said it. Why do you think we need another source to say that he's said what he says he's said? —Pengo 07:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Oblique rays diagram

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I like the improvements and have nominated at it Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Oblique rays 02 Pengo.svg. Thanks, Cacophony 07:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

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Stalk (botany)

Hi! The redirect you made from Stalk (botany) to the disambiguation page Stem is, sorry to say, very unhelpful. The page doesn't have any relation to stalk as a botanical term, nor does even Plant stem (which I assume you intended) mention the term "stalk" in any single point. Do you think you could start an article for Stalk (botany), or if you think it's not worth an article, at least add the term somewhere in Plant stem? I know I can't, so that's why I'm asking. Actually, even a red link to Stalk (botany) would be more helpful, since then somebody with more knowledge could do the job, seeing it's not already done... Thanks! Malhonen 20:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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Centipede: How to link to a primary topic

Regarding your reversion of the change I made to the centipede (disambiguation) page. Thank you for trying to help, but the original was the standard format.

Please read WP:MOSDAB, specifically ""Linking to a primary topic" for more info. All the best,

Fourohfour 20:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

That wasn't a reversion, it was a revision, making the list readable with subheadings instead of a jumbled mess. —Pengo 22:06, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

XO-1 request: move and split

See this Talk:XO-1 section and please comment... the page is still a confusing mixture of topics and views. +sj + 00:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

hadrosaurs: thanks!

Hi Pengo - thanks so much for creating the image map template of the hadrosaur image - it's a really nice contribution to the image and its article! Debivort 04:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

POTD notification

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Request to join group and voila. :) -- 我♥中國 05:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

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Image

I saw that you put those circles on this image and I was wondering if you could put those same circles here if you have the time .Bewareofdog 01:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

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Tuna in Australia

Hi there. I was reading out tuna article and noticed a paragraph that you seem to have added here (apologies if I've parsed the edits incorrectly). I'm a little confused by it. What else would be in the can (i.e. taking up the other 49%)? Now that the standard has been "dropped", does that mean that you could sell a completely empty can and call it tuna? To be honest, I first thought it was a prank edit, but you're obviously no vandal. If you get a moment, perhaps you could clarify or rephrase...? Cheers! Matt Deres 23:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

The rest could be oil, water, or "brine" (salt water), I guess. —Pengo 23:35, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

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wiki-nonsense talk

There is no guideline or policy whatsoever that makes it necessary to source a "secure" status in the absence of disagreement over it. Look at Verbascum thapsus and if you can find a good way to source that...

Also, single-paragraph sections, especially ones as short as the one you were recreating, are strongly discouraged by the manual of style, and have long been a criterion for opposing at FAC. splitting that paragraph into its section for the sole purpose of internal-linking is at best misguided, at worst petty (as if the "name and symbolism" section wasn't troublesome enough already!). Circeus 01:57, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't care for unreferenced duck-y "secure". I do care about people improperly replacing that with a "Least concern" category, though (because least concern is only okay for species formally assessed vy the IUCN). In my opinion, a species should be marked "secure" in the absence of a global statement to the contrary, or controversy over status. If a species is not in any endangerment category, then what should we call it if not "secure"? Circeus 03:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Nothing. It should be left blank. Status means a status from some external authority. The reader can decide for him or herself when reading the article that the species is not threatened with extinction. But if no one else has said it, we don't. —Pengo 03:52, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

thoughts on the nature of humanity

Pengo, you noted "Sex for enjoyment " as a defining feature of humanity. I want to present the counter-argument that this is actually an effect of a different characteristic that sets us apart, even from bonobos. Whereas most animal species have an almost entirely food, shelter, and sex-centric society, humanity has achieved relative security with these basics throughout much of our history (the only great threat to us has been ourselves) and is notable because it is the only species which has been capable of marginalizing the necessity for sex. Sex is not the top thing on everyone's mind for our species, and that has allowed us to make significant advances in a great many other areas. Additionally, marginalizing sex in this way has turned it into a partly recreational activity. OcciMoron 15:39, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts on the nature of humanity.. the idea that "Sex for enjoyment" sets humans (& bonobos) apart from the other animals isn't my own idea.. and i have it listed under "Stupid theories on what sets humans apart" with a bunch of other half-witted theories for that reason.. (I'd like to start an article on these theories some day, or at least add them to the human article or the like).

But you've made some interesting points.. But I have to say that observing various animals in the wild and at zoos, it seems that most animals spend the vast majority of their time doing something other than procreating. So it's hard to say their lives or societies are all that sex-centric. However, sex is still a necessity in the human and animal worlds. Relationships, love stories, and sex are central in any human culture. And I believe sex will only become a marginal activity when sex and reproduction are completely isolated from each other. Which I don't think the majority is ever going to like the idea of all that much, I don't think would ever be completely possible. —Pengo 21:59, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, animals do spend time doing other activities, but generally they are a means to the end of reproduction, all residing at the very lowest part of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Occasionally animals with high parental involvement make forays into the second level of that hierarchy, but that is only ever in a context of maintaining reproductive fitness. Humans have a *need* to fulfill the other categories, which has led to incredible staying power as a species. OcciMoron 15:37, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't accept Maslow's hierarchy as anything more than a moralistic hypothesis, with little basis in science (i.e. it's not testable, especially not with animals). There's no reason your argument that animals do all they do to aid reproduction (or the furthering of their kin) cannot apply to humans. The only difference with animals is that they can't tell you otherwise. —Pengo 00:21, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		Have a barnstar for your contribs - Pheonix15 13:35, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

And in the morning when I woke there was no Antonio
Just some money that he’d left for the memory of me
And oh my beautiful guitar, that’s what really broke my heart
Had been stolen by the two-faced low lothario
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Conservation code

Hi Pengo - I have been referred to you regarding a suggestion that graphics for the Conservation Codes for Western Australian Flora be included in the taxobox. What do you think? Cygnis insignis 12:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Cheers. I'm seeking some other opinions, but it seems good to me. Cygnis insignis 14:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Shall we take it live and see what happens? Cygnis insignis 08:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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Hangon

Franklin dam - this is close to the problem with other issues - see my comments at lake pedder and the gunns pulp mill - please talk - there is one thing to reduce to what might seem the most obvious but... SatuSuro 23:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough - I have to get off - will try to explain later - sorry to be nuisance SatuSuro 00:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Anything to improve the articles on northern tasmania is the imperative - they need help - cheers SatuSuro 01:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Hazelwood

Since all the expansion and stuff has been going on I thought it might need to be updated. What about the new plant going to be built nearby? Does that have a page yet? by the way, check out this picture I took. Image:Hazelwoodpowerstationatnight.jpg Feel free to put it in the article somewhere --Simpsons fan 66 02:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Chubs and Disambiguation

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Greetings

Greetings Peter. I'm glad that you were able to come along today; it was nice to meet you. There are some images here that perhaps may be of interest to you. :) Cheers, Sarah 14:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas

Blue whale population

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Kind regards and enjoy the festive season. Klepas (talk) 08:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Please fix your error

Hello can you fix your error on {{Resolved}} please. Remember to test the template in your sandbox, especially if it is protected please, because it means few users can fix it. Jackaranga (talk) 02:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, the mistake was that you were missing <noinclude> at the end of the template syntax before the documentation. Jackaranga (talk) 02:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Conservation Codes for Western Australian Flora

Hoy - when you get a moment, could you tell me where you are up to with the Conservation Codes for Western Australian Flora implementation? Ta, cygnis insignis 08:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Great, but you need to make a small fix to your edit: where

|P2=[[Image:Status DECF P1.svg|

... should be P2.svg et cetera. Here is the stub I created to test it; Verticordia insignis subsp. eomagis Cheers, cygnis insignis 07:44, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

It's neat, I will start rolling it out. In making the stub above, I started wondering about pages, categories, and redirects for the same - a la the Redlist. Any thoughts on that? cygnis insignis 08:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Superb Fairy-wren

Pengo,

I noticed that you recently changed the lead picture in the taxobox of Superb Fairy-wren to one that, IMO, is more blurry because the other one is a composite between two images. I personally do not see a problem with a compiled image, particularly when it was done to include both the male and female of a sexually dimorphic species and was wondering if that was in the MOS somewhere. Thanks. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 21:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

MSW3 bot

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Help in taxonomy

Hi, can I ask you to make a Tagalog version Image:Biological classification L Pengo.svg? We've reached a consensus regarding the translation of the taxonomic terms in the Tagalog Misplaced Pages. These terms are sourced in reliable Tagalog-English dictionaries, the translation is as follows:

• Life: buhay
• Domain: dominyo
• Kingdom: kaharian
• Phylum: kalapian or kalahian
• Class: klase
• Order: orden
• Family: pamilya
• Genus: sari
• Species: uri

If you have any questions please reply on my talkpage. Thank you.--Lenticel 08:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! wow that was fast. I'll go tell the tl wiki.--Lenticel 12:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

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Teletaxo

Hello Pengo, I'm Thanyakij (or Aqua) from Thai Misplaced Pages. I know that you are making the TeleTaxo. I'm just complete the new Intelli-TeleTaxo which can change the color follow the regnum and collapse un-important data so you can copy and change something to suit different conditions in En-Wiki's work. for a good example see เสือ and หลาวชะโอนทุ่ง. For more information, you can contact me at my user talk page. Enjoy your new taxobox. -- aIqCuEa • 04:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)