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Hi, I stupidly deleted an image that you uploaded , cropped from the Birth of Venus. Do you still have the image, or do you remember wher you got it from, if so could you please ipload it again, it was here : Image:Birth of Venus.jpg. Sorry --nixie 04:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No problem; I uploaded it again. Just took about 30 seconds. → JarlaxleArtemis 22:54, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

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You really should change furhter to further. ‡ Jarlaxle 19:41, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

whats up with the user warning-flooding?

You seem to be using some kind of script or something that is flooding the users you are warning. Look at your contributions...

Just in case you didn't know... ;-) Shanes 02:56, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oops… I was clicking the save tab several times because Misplaced Pages has been acting very slow lately. Didn't know it would do that. → JarlaxleArtemis 02:58, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

Huitzilopochtli

I wish to coment your changes on the article about Huitzilopochtli. The festivity of huitzilopochtli was not 24 days of blood. And aztec month has 24 days, and the month was dedicated to Huitzilopochtli. But festivities did not last the whole month. There were only 18 festivities around the year and sacrifices were made only on those festivities. Please check the article aobut aztecs

Also, you are changing the legend of the fifth sun, Nanahuatzin was the solar god who dare to throw himself in the fire, and Tecciztecatl was the lunar god. This legend is centuries older than Huitzilopochtli. please check the entry of Nanauatzin in the wikipedia.

Nanahuatzin 00:16, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't know about the legend of the fifth sun, but Huitzilopochtli's festival was one of twenty-five days of a blood orgy with hearts and blood of prisoners dumped on his altar (or so says this link). → JarlaxleArtemis 00:24, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

Hello.

The aztecs believed we are in the fifht creation, :

The Maya and the Aztecs both believed they were the people of the fifth sun. One Aztec version, reported by Miguel León-Portilla, tells that this sun was created in Teotihuacan. When all was still dark, the gods gathered there and asked who would take it upon himself to make light, to make days. Two gods offered themselves: Tecuziztécatl and Nanahuatzin. They offered sacrifices, but Tecuziztécatl was proud and made empty, showy offerings, while the other was more devout. When the time came for the gods to throw themselves into the fire, Tecuziztécatl held back and it was Nanahuatzin who became the sun. Tecuziztécatl was then shamed and threw himself on the fire second, becoming the moon.

http://zedilloworld.presidencia.gob.mx/PAGES/culture/note_milenio.html

Huitzilopochtli is not mentioned in this legend, wich was recopilated directly from aztec sources (Florentine codex)... where did you take the version your put.?

This link http://www.scns.com/earthen/other/seanachaidh/godaztec.html, does not report where it took their info, although it seems it was taken from Prescot, which is not very acurate. The info you erased comes from people like .

I sugest to read the info about sacrifices in the article about s.

Okay. You can re-add the information again if you want to. → JarlaxleArtemis 23:00, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

Hi! thank you for putting aside our disagreement and supporting my successful admin candidacy. I hope that you will always feel that I am a responsible administrator. JeremyA 05:39, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Theo RFA

Hi Jeremy: Thanks for your support of my nomination. --Theo (Talk) 07:24, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No problem. → JarlaxleArtemis 22:41, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Submission (Islam)

Hey, you put Submission (Islam) up for speedy deletion as patent nonsense... well, although I'm not sure that's the best title... it isn't exactly nonesense... there is a view purported by Rashad Khalifa (the 19 code thing which I think is nonesense but... I wouldn't say it doesn't deserve an article) that is all about Qur'an only Islam... this has also spawned movements (whatever their size may be...) that take the same basic interpretations of the Qur'an but don't accept the 19 code thing... I think they do deserve some recognition on wikipedia (under some article name) but... either way if you want it delete I think you should try VfD or help find a better name for the article... gren 15:47, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you.

Thanks for the tip on redirecting the article.Brian Sisco 03:27, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Νω προβλεμ. → JarlaxleArtemis 03:31, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

You put some of my edits back into michael jackson. Some damn vandal still took out the rest though and keeps taking it out. Thodin 04:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't think they're taking it out to vandalize. They probably did it because they think it's irrelevant. → JarlaxleArtemis 04:15, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Could you please put it all back for me? I will back up any edits you want. Thodin 04:18, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Um… that would be kinda difficult. I'm not even an admin. → JarlaxleArtemis 04:20, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Not an admin = That explains why you're a decent person and that you don't vandalize pages in the guise of making it follow the rules. Thodin 02:31, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That's bureaucracy for you. → JarlaxleArtemis 02:34, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

The admins have been vandalizing the Thodin (not my user page, the one of the TV character thodin). See http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Thodin&action=history ..Thodin 03:57, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

User:EngineerScotty

I removed the deletion tag from User:EngineerScotty. You should assume good faith on such edits and assume that the user simply forgot to log in before editing their user article. This isn't that uncommon. Kelly Martin 04:57, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support!

Hi JarlaxleArtemis! Thanks for supporting my RFA! Sjakkalle (Check!) 13:48, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Speedying

Hello. I'm puzzled by this addition of the speedy delete tag. Of course, the article is wretched. Arguably, the subject is not notable (etc. etc.). However, I don't see how it's a candidate for speedying. If you're sure that it is, please mark it again as a speedy, giving the reason. -- Hoary 07:13, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)

I already replied on the talk page. → JarlaxleArtemis 07:15, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Yup, our messages crossed. It's OK then. (Erm, OT but is "Euclid Fraktur" a font I should have encountered?) -- Hoary 07:19, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)

Euclid Fraktur is the font that I use for my signatures. What about it, if I may ask? → JarlaxleArtemis 07:21, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Well, yes, I see that it's what you're using in your signature, but presumably you're doing this less for your own amusement than for the potential amusement of others. While I of course know what Fraktur is, I'd never heard of "Euclid Fraktur", and neither does any of my computers (each renders it as sans-serif). Do you happen to know if it's widely used, as Fraktur fonts go? (Disappointingly, Fraktur doesn't start to say.) I did a bit of googling just now, and came up with this source (via [http://jeff.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/fraktur.html this info page). P'raps I'll download and install it. -- Hoary 07:37, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)

The font came with my computer upon purchase. I thought it would be fairly common; my computer came with Windows XP. → JarlaxleArtemis 07:42, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Ah, XP. I escaped the clutch of MS before getting that (indeed, it was the XP "product activation" nonsense that decided it for me). Ah well, if the font is both freely downloadable and standard in XP it will be widely used. Thanks for telling me. -- Hoary 08:02, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)

Good job in finding that Effie M. Morrissey is a copyright violation. But "copyvio" is in fact not a criterion for speedy deletion. The best course of action when you spot it is to replace the page with a {{copyvio|url=source of text}}-tag, then bring the article to WP:CP. This gives the poster a chance to explain him or herself (perhaps the poster is the copyright holder, or maybe the source is public domain). Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:42, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. → JarlaxleArtemis 19:19, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for supporting me on my RfA. It's always nice to get some positive feedback. I hope I can put my new abilities to some good use. -- grm_wnr Esc 17:43, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Don't taunt the trolls

Please don't taunt vandals and trolls. Adding comments like "Ha! You have just been reprimanded by an evil monkey!" to the pages of people warned for vandalism is not helpful. Kelly Martin 04:33, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

I know it's not helpful. But it doesn't hurt anything either. → JarlaxleArtemis 23:16, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

JarlaxleArtemis thanks for helping me out back there. You found me somehow. Umm... hey do you have the link to the history of you taunting the trolls? I searched through your contributions and couldn't find them. I'd like to see it because I think it would be funny to read. DyslexicEditor 18:01, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I just searched through my contributions on user talk pages, and I couldn't find them either. → JarlaxleArtemis 23:29, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Want to see something kinda amusing instead? Check it out here. → JarlaxleArtemis 23:54, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Sandbox

Please don't do that. I think you have found a way to crash an x-server; once I looked at the sandbox, my server crashed! Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 23:43, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry. Want to know how to crash an MSN browser? Type in Japanese Hiragana or Katakana. Kana works fine, though. All of the other Asian symbols, including Chinese, Korean, and Thai, work fine also. → JarlaxleArtemis 23:51, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

I know. Don't. You can put pretty much anything in the sandbox, but that is going to scare away new IP's. It took my computer two or three minutes to load the edit page. Howabout1 23:46, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Really? It took my computer about two seconds. → JarlaxleArtemis 23:51, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

If you want to experiment with stuff that are potentially very confusing or harmfull to other users, I sugest doing it in your own sandbox. For instance here. Shanes 00:49, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

unblocking

Glad to see that the unblock worked - I think your IP got autoblocked, effectively extending the duration of your block. You do know that you can create a private sandbox at User:JarlaxleArtemis/sandbox or whatever subpage name you like, right? Anyway, happy editing, stay calm, etc etc. FreplySpang (talk) 02:44, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again. → JarlaxleArtemis 02:45, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Feces page

There was so much "crap" on the talk page I was trying to archive the old discussions. What's the proper way to do this? LittleRedRidingHood (aka Eyeon) 00:15, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Well, you should cut the oldest discussions from the page and paste them to a new page, such as Talk:Feces/Archive 1. ‡ Jarlaxle 00:18, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

However, all of the discussions on the talk page are current discussions, so they shouldn't be archived yet. ‡ Jarlaxle 00:21, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

so much "crap" on the feces talk page... ah reminds me of a Spacemoose cartoon. DyslexicEditor 01:45, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Space Moose, eh? I've never heard of it, but Misplaced Pages has an article about it, sure enough. ‡ Jarlaxle 02:05, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Untitled

Okay, got it--thanks. I wouldn't have figured that out without your help.

Thank you for fixing the Chakmakjian article's redirect. I've got his handwritten personnel record from Tufts (as part of an Alan Hovhaness research project) and found that the spelling of his name as exists on some websites is incorrect. I guess it's best that a redirect exist rather than just deleting the incorrect spelling, so that it becomes clear through the redirect that the old spelling ("Haroutiun Vaness Chakmakjian") is incorrect.—Badagnani 09:42, June 24, 2005 (UTC)

About Grievous

hello my friend, i guess there is some disagreement between us about the article of General Grievous, i post up my reasons and suggestion in Grievous' discussion page, pls kindly take a look. i think we can work things out~ thz Darth Kevinmhk 10:08, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

professor-stub

Please don't create new stubs before perusing Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria. This particular one overlaps with {{academic-bio-stub}}. --Joy 15:43, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

From 70.20.216.117

JarlaxleArtemis, thank you for welcoming me, but I would have thought it was obvious that I am a sockpuppet. :) (Er...a good sockpuppet.) 70.20.216.117 29 June 2005 02:24 (UTC)

Helping

Thanks for helping out on the vandalism patrol. I should alert you to a complex situation involving several editors and several articles. user:68.10.35.153/user:Baxter2 camre through and added a large amount of favorable info to Bill White (activist), along with quite a bit of libellous info about White's enemies, including former partners and an ex-girlfriend. There is a reasonable suspicion that the editor is Bill White himself, though he has denied this. More recently, a couple of the subjects of these articles have become active and are removing some of the info that "Baxter2" added. User:24.94.181.211 is one of those people, self-identified as Chuck Munson. So the rest of us are witnesses or unwilling participants in a personal squabble which requires some care. In the matter of the Tad Kepley article there seems to be a lot of malicious gossip, so I didn't object when the usually-overzealous User:24.94.181.211 deleted most of it. If you'd like to be on top of this I'd suggest you glance over the talk:Bill White (activist) page, which has some of the back-story. Thanks again for the maintenance. Cheers, -Willmcw June 29, 2005 06:16 (UTC)

Ah. Thanks. ‡ Jarlaxle June 29, 2005 06:18 (UTC)

Post-leftism

Please stop reverting the post-leftism entry to false information about post-leftism. I know post-leftists and am very familiar with contemporary anarchism. This entry is inaccurate.—User:24.94.181.211 06:20, June 29, 2005 (UTC)

Okay. Please stop blanking discussion pages, though. ‡ Jarlaxle June 29, 2005 06:23 (UTC)

I'll stop blanking discussion pages when people hostile to the subject stop posting slander, misinformation, and information intended to stalk and intimidate the subject. BTW, you've reached a new low when you reverted an edit that I made based on my involvement as a member of the collective and called my edit "vandalism." That's priceless. I'm a member of that group so I happen to be in a position to know the *facts* about the history of that group.

Sure, whatever you say buddy. I'm not interested in that boring political subject anyway. ‡ Jarlaxle June 30, 2005 03:41 (UTC)

LA-area Wiki meetup

There is an LA-area meetup being planned for Monday, July 25, 2005. For further details, see User:Eric Shalov/Wikimeetup. BlankVerse ∅ 29 June 2005 11:04 (UTC)

Amber Michaels

The image you uploaded for Amber Michaels has been removed on grounds of pornography. If you are familiar with this adult film star, would you mind helping by citing sources and inserting reference links for this person? Hall Monitor 29 June 2005 22:50 (UTC)

I didn't upload that picture. ‡ Jarlaxle June 29, 2005 22:51 (UTC)

You are right, my apologies. It was User:7121989. Hall Monitor 29 June 2005 22:54 (UTC)

Lord Ao

Sorry, I don't have the book with me. All I remember is that every deity had an entry called “superior” or “answers to”. And there was mentionned Lord Ao's light superior. I guess the Trilogy of the Time of Troubles is the best place to look for. Reply to David Latapie 30 June 2005 00:50 (UTC)

as far as I remember, it was the FR version, but for ADD2, not for DD3 Reply to David Latapie 30 June 2005 12:33 (UTC)

Awards

I present this WikiMedal for Janitorial Services to you for your excellant work. utcursch 10:20, June 30, 2005 (UTC)

I'm Confused

I don't suppose you have any idea who this clown is, or what he's saying, or what's wrong with his head, do you? For an anonymous troll, he's awfully persistent. --Scimitar 4 July 2005 19:06 (UTC)

No, I have no idea who the hell that is. ‡ Jarlaxle 02:57, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

List of subatomic particles

Jeremy -

I am not interested in doing an edit war with you. However, that page is redundent. I would appreciate talking about it with on talk:list of subatomic particles. If posible, I would like this issue to be resolved amicably.

Also, I ask that if you do revert the article again that you at least preserve my edit of the Category:Physics lists link. I have made it so that the entries in that category beginning with "List of" are sorted based on the rest of their names. It is that edit that places the article under "S" (for subatomic ...) instead of "L" (for List ...). --EMS | Talk 02:53, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Drow eye colour in Drizzt Do'Urden

Hey JA, are you sure that the normal drow eye colour is red in the visual spectrum? I thought their eyes only glowed red in the dark (when using infravision). I haven't seen any other indications of typical drow eye colour. Cheers, --Deathphoenix 20:47, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Their eyes are normally red in the visual spectrum. They only glow, however, when using infravision. (When they glow, their eyes are still red of course.) That is how R.A. Salvatore depicts them, anyway. I'm not sure if all authors do. ‡ Jarlaxle 20:56, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good, thanks. I guess my memory didn't serve me right. --Deathphoenix 21:04, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

66.142.160.221

Hey Jarlaxle, I saw you reply to that vandal on his talk page. I'm the person he's been bothering. Do you know how I can get him blocked? Or, if you're an admin yourself, would you mind blocking him? Thanks, Jaxl 22:36, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm not an admin. You can report him at Misplaced Pages:Vandalism in progress, and an admin will probably block him for you. ‡ Jarlaxle 00:01, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, Jtdirl somehow found out about him and blocked him after I asked you. Thanks for the info, though; I'll need it for future reference. Best, Jaxl 00:06, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Geomontan

Saw that you made an edit cleaning up the all caps and sorting the stub. Do you happen to know anything about this topic? When I first saw it I thought it was a hoax but now suspect it is part of some sort of game. There is a reference too it by another article, Maxiums, created by the same user today. Google doesn't produce anything on both of these so I am still a little worried about them. Tobycat 00:26, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I really don't know anything about Geomontan. ‡ Jarlaxle 00:31, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Redirect

Glad you think so. :) Howabout1 21:40, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Vajdahunyad

I don't know what source you used for this but the Castle of Vajdahunyad that is pictured here was most certainly in Budapest, Hungary when I took that photo... -- Francs2000 | Talk File:Uk flag large.png 20:24, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Hm… Budapest is the capital of Hungary, which was never part of Romania. That's odd. Well, either my source is wrong, or there are two castles of the same name (which seems unlikely). ‡ Jarlaxle 20:34, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

Is it possible that the castle was moved? I seem to remember it being referred to as a Transylvanian castle, but as you say Budapest isn't in Transylvania... -- Francs2000 | Talk File:Uk flag large.png 20:37, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

It would appear that there are two: -- Francs2000 | Talk File:Uk flag large.png 20:40, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it sure does. That link explains it all. ‡ Jarlaxle 20:45, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

Emoticon

I appreciate that you are interested, by why exactly did you mass-revert my changes? There are probably individual cases that are arguable, but that article has long been an add-your-personal-favorite playground. If the lists are too exhaustive then they cease to be illustrative examples and begin to get in the way.

There has been some discussion of this on the talk page, but mostly it has just been assumed that we are listing representative examples, not trying to document everything there is. I've been pruning this article periodically for months now - it's just that I've been away and as far as I can tell it hasn't been kept up in my absesnse. There are a lot of drive-by additions that aren't necessary and really are a sort of vanity (i.e. it's my favorite that I made up). -Aranel ("Sarah") 21:40, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

In the words of Pikel Bouldershoulder, "Ooo…" (That is a sign of disappointment, just in case you are not familiar with the green-bearded dwarf.) ‡ Jarlaxle 21:45, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

Huh? I spent over half an hour editing that article. You took three seconds to revert it. I would at least like to know why. -Aranel ("Sarah") 22:02, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Well, I put back the only thing that you contributed. All your other edits were just taking items out of the article. ‡ Jarlaxle 22:06, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

Er, yes. And I thought about it carefully and I think I had good reason for removing them. If you disagree, can we at least talk about it? -Aranel ("Sarah") 22:08, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Okay, revert my edits if you want. I suppose it's not that important of an article, anyway. ‡ Jarlaxle 22:11, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the article back to the maximum info. I got myself a good printout before it could by reverted back to a skeleton article, and I enjoy every bit of it! JohanL 05:07, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm glad to see at least some people are pleased by my edits. ‡ Jarlaxle 04:39, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Controversy

It is not a matter of controversy. Maybe if the guy has said that he was pope it might be. But he explicitly said he wasn't, and accepted the election of 4 popes from 1958, something he would not have done if he was pope. It is just a case of a few ultra-exteme fringe Catholics making up something that the man in the centre of it said was wrong. FearÉIREANN\ 22:22, 17 July 2005 (UTC)